October 30th - New Orleans Pelicans vs Golden State Warriors - 2-0

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10-30-2023, 09:29 PM
Pelicanidae

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Originally Posted by AussieHornet

zion should be getting 10 boards a game. I think antonio had a little dig at zion during the game "its amazing how much faster a player runs when they think they can score". zion can definitely put more effort into rebounding and making an effort to get back in D.

It's frustrating. Tonight I could have understood it if it was in the second half when he had 5 fouls, but weirdly he was more active on the glass (at least offensively) in the second half. Just lack of effort, it's not good enough. I don't know if 10 boards a game, but I think he had 1 at the half? Should have been at least a few more.
10-30-2023, 09:32 PM
6warddude

i bounced after curry hit 40 lol...i tried to take it...

green bodied zion in the first half...if zion had a midrange shot then green would not just sit in the paint waiting on zion to attack....

what made me mad was the effort that we didnt have and getting bullied on the boards..
10-30-2023, 09:33 PM
luckyman

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Originally Posted by neworleanshoo

Just flush tonight. Glad I wasn't there.

Yup. Octoboer is still weird time in basketball.

But if #14 misses the next game, I'm not even going to bother.

Not doing this ******** again.
10-30-2023, 09:37 PM
luckyman

Portland is going to have a fire sale at some point.

I want Robert Williams in a bad way. Good times Larry but bye. Send him back to Portland.
10-30-2023, 09:38 PM
AussieHornet

10 boards isnt a stretch for someone with his size and explosiveness. Maybe he doesnt have the nous for rebounding as it does take a certain skill to read the ball off the rim etc. You can definitely see its an effort thing he isnt as interested in cleaning up the glass as he should be.
10-30-2023, 09:43 PM
As I See It

Offense requires a skillset; rebounding requires a work ethic. By far, that is the most disappointing aspect of this game. Losing is one thing, but being outworked is a whole other matter.

We may have hit on Hawkins.

I know he is a fan favorite for his hustle, but LNJ cannot play the center position defensively at a championship level (especially with no help from the forward position).

The league better rescind the fine on Willie for that technical. If ever there was a reason to vociferously complain about poor refereeing, Steph Curry's takedown of Hawkins was just cause.

This was a Naji Marshall game if ever there was one.
10-30-2023, 09:46 PM
Pelicanidae

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Originally Posted by AussieHornet

10 boards isnt a stretch for someone with his size and explosiveness. Maybe he doesnt have the nous for rebounding as it does take a certain skill to read the ball off the rim etc. You can definitely see its an effort thing he isnt as interested in cleaning up the glass as he should be.

It is if you're also asking him to take the kind of beating he does on offense, and also be (depending on matchups) one of the lead playmakers. Demanding 10 a night is unrealistic - I'd be happy with 8, which doesn't sound like many fewer but it is. That said yeah, effort needs to improve on that end. He switches on and off with it and it seems to be something that happens when he's playing well offensively. But the problem is, you can't let your effort be dictated by your results, it has to be the reverse.
10-30-2023, 09:46 PM
Pelicanidae

Willie Green says Brandon Ingram started feeling discomfort in his knee today. Says there won't be an update until tomorrow.
— Will Guillory (@WillGuillory) October 31, 2023

Ready to hear about an update coming in 2 weeks.
10-30-2023, 09:48 PM
WhyHornetsWhy

Y'all still got hope? I am going to need some optimism...3 games into the season
10-30-2023, 09:49 PM
Pelicanidae

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Originally Posted by WhyHornetsWhy

Y'all still got hope? I am going to need some optimism...3 games into the season

I mean, ''3 games into the season'' should be the reason it's hope. Early season, tons of guys missing, bad reffing, unusually bad shooting. Last season it took us until late November into December to really start clicking and at that point if Zion hadn't gone down we'd have been rolling.

Don't panic about anything until Christmas, my eternal advice.
10-30-2023, 09:51 PM
Pelicanidae

Jordan Hawkins said he found out he was starting 45 minutes before the game.
— Christian Clark (@cclark_13) October 31, 2023

Oh come on lmao
10-30-2023, 10:23 PM
luckyman

Trayce Jackson Davis in 20 minutes of play

13 points, 9 rebounds, 7 offensive

Nobody on the entire Pelicans team had more than 6 total rebounds.
10-30-2023, 11:13 PM
WhyHornetsWhy

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

I mean, ''3 games into the season'' should be the reason it's hope. Early season, tons of guys missing, bad reffing, unusually bad shooting. Last season it took us until late November into December to really start clicking and at that point if Zion hadn't gone down we'd have been rolling.

Don't panic about anything until Christmas, my eternal advice.

Thanks man. Always coming through!!
10-30-2023, 11:45 PM
PaKwAn

One player i wish we had is Duren instead of Dyson. He doesn't space the floor but does all the things we are bad at, plus he is very mobile.

I like what i see in Hawkins, he actually tries to go for rebounds despite his build.
10-30-2023, 11:56 PM
Mrakar

Medical and PR stuff already in Mid-season form:rolleyes:
10-31-2023, 01:21 AM
new city champ

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Originally Posted by luckyman

Trayce Jackson Davis in 20 minutes of play

13 points, 9 rebounds, 7 offensive

Nobody on the entire Pelicans team had more than 6 total rebounds.

TJD was a favorite in this year's draft for many on the board. Really thought the Pels should jump into the last second round to grab him when he was still there. He's a very mobile center/forward who can block shots, rebound and pass the ball. Very skilled, like a poor man's Sabonis. Oh well...
10-31-2023, 07:07 AM
Mrakar

Who is next on "revaluated in 2 weeks list"? My guess? CJ
10-31-2023, 09:09 AM
donato

You're probably not winning that game when:

1. BI, TM3, Jose, Naji are all out.
2. Steph Curry shoots lights out.
3. The refs ref like they did, particularly in the 3rd Q.

It's a loss, it happens, move on. We've got three games in four days starting with @OKC. Let's look forward to that.
10-31-2023, 12:42 PM
Creative

The Refs were TERRIBLE today? Bad game ,We need to move on. Hope BI is ok
10-31-2023, 12:49 PM
Pelicanidae

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Originally Posted by PaKwAn

One player i wish we had is Duren instead of Dyson. He doesn't space the floor but does all the things we are bad at, plus he is very mobile.

I like what i see in Hawkins, he actually tries to go for rebounds despite his build.

I had Duren top 5 in that draft the entire time - several great draft guys did too. Damn shame we couldn't get him. I doubt they'd trade him but they have a million bigs so I'd still be making queries.
10-31-2023, 12:49 PM
Pelicanidae

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Originally Posted by new city champ

TJD was a favorite in this year's draft for many on the board. Really thought the Pels should jump into the last second round to grab him when he was still there. He's a very mobile center/forward who can block shots, rebound and pass the ball. Very skilled, like a poor man's Sabonis. Oh well...

Yeah I remember luckyman and I both having one of our rare moments of agreement on liking TJD. He's great fun.
10-31-2023, 12:54 PM
P_B_&_G

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

A few? It was like 11 minutes straight of them, including both Herb and Willie getting techs.

Do you know how bad it has to be for both of those guys to get T'd up?

This was the deciding factor in the game and it wasn't close. So many bad calls and no calls. Makes the NBA hard to watch when the refs are this one sided.
10-31-2023, 01:01 PM
P_B_&_G

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Originally Posted by donato

You're probably not winning that game when:

1. BI, TM3, Jose, Naji are all out.
2. Steph Curry shoots lights out.
3. The refs ref like they did, particularly in the 3rd Q.

It's a loss, it happens, move on. We've got three games in four days starting with @OKC. Let's look forward to that.

My thoughts as well. It's a long season and 1 early loss to a championship caliber team isn't a big deal.
10-31-2023, 01:41 PM
Mrakar

Brandon Ingrams MRI didn't show anything. He is questionable for tomorrow.
I understand the precautions becausehe is injury prone, but tbh i never saw him play trough minor injury like 90% of this league does. I expect him to miss 2-3 more at least.
10-31-2023, 01:46 PM
clark griswald

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Originally Posted by luckyman

When a team shoots 51% from the floor there's fewer of them to be had.

Then outside of JV, this team does not have a board eater. Just no technique and laziness and that includes #1. The one other guy making an effor this year on the boards...oh yeah he's injured AGAIN.

Could have drafted Trayce Jackson Davis. He lasted and lasted into the 2nd round. But nope. Let's ride with Larry and go sign freakin Cody Zeller. That'll do.

front office has really disappointed with drafting(for the most part). not even bothering an effort in second round choices as if the Pelicans were an elite team with little need to draft 2nd round picks.
10-31-2023, 02:06 PM
Freyfamilyreuni

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Originally Posted by Mrakar

Brandon Ingrams MRI didn't show anything. He is questionable for tomorrow.
I understand the precautions becausehe is injury prone, but tbh i never saw him play trough minor injury like 90% of this league does. I expect him to miss 2-3 more at least.

Of course it didn’t show anything. BI is a bit of a hypochondriac. It’s why he’ll never be a true leader.
10-31-2023, 03:16 PM
Fedupfan

Dude legit sat out for muscle soreness. Can’t make this sh*t up.
10-31-2023, 03:23 PM
drortego316

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

According to half the Pels media, they are. The entire conversation prior to this game was ''Steph better play, the KIDS deserve to see him!''

This is what really grinds my gears. **** them kids. if they want to see Steph play so bad, tell their parents to move the hell over there and let some real pelicans fans move here.
10-31-2023, 04:54 PM
Fedupfan

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Originally Posted by drortego316

This is what really grinds my gears. **** them kids. if they want to see Steph play so bad, tell their parents to move the hell over there and let some real pelicans fans move here.

Some kind of way I agree with how you feel here. I hate seeing the opponents fans in large amounts like that.
10-31-2023, 09:26 PM
luckyman

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Originally Posted by Fedupfan

Dude legit sat out for muscle soreness. Can?t make this sh*t up.

Well SGA is a good all-nba player. But he's still not a basketball god like Steph.

The Zion led Pelicans should be able to take it tomorrow even if BI doesn't play.
10-31-2023, 10:12 PM
Pelicanidae

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Originally Posted by clark griswald

front office has really disappointed with drafting(for the most part). not even bothering an effort in second round choices as if the Pelicans were an elite team with little need to draft 2nd round picks.

I will never forget the draft where we could have had Desmond Bane, Xavier Tillman, or Isaiah Joe, and we didn't. They were all there. What does this team desperately need? Decent rebounding big and shooting? What do those three represent? A decent rebounding defensive big and two excellent shooters. None of these were ad-hoc desires - myself and many others were begging on draft night for us to pick them, we all knew. Nah.
11-01-2023, 12:23 AM
new city champ

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

I will never forget the draft where we could have had Desmond Bane, Xavier Tillman, or Isaiah Joe, and we didn't. They were all there. What does this team desperately need? Decent rebounding big and shooting? What do those three represent? A decent rebounding defensive big and two excellent shooters. None of these were ad-hoc desires - myself and many others were begging on draft night for us to pick them, we all knew. Nah.

Yeah, I remember you being high on Bane very early in the draft process. Think it was the first time I'd heard about him. I think the Pels drafting, outside of 2021, has been pretty mediocre. And I really don't get it. They've squandered so much draft capital in deals for paleo-centers or undersized shooting guards, and have been profligate with their second rounders, as if they don't matter. We've needed shooting and rim protecting forever, but they have declined to pin point that in the draft (until Hawkins this year).

Watching TJD put up 20-10 for Indiana, he looked like a no-brainer in the second round, especially if you want to play small and fast and switch everything. He was a good rim protector, a good scorer inside and a good rebounder who could also pass the pall and played with a high IQ. I understand he can't shoot outside, but how many centers really shoot enough to create gravity at the arc? Almost none. I thought Jackson-Davis would have been a perfect fit for the Pels offense. Now he'll be a good piece for Golden State....

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