Hate break the bad news but it’s not gossip . Start back in the summer. Even MM brought it up.
https://theathletic.com/2656520/2021...liamson-happy/
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Hate break the bad news but it’s not gossip . Start back in the summer. Even MM brought it up.
https://theathletic.com/2656520/2021...liamson-happy/
Im hopeful someone actually talks to Zion and he discredits it all. Would be nice to have a season that is just focused on winning.
What about them?
It IS gossip. Journalism died years ago. It's mostly all gossip from unnamed people who mostly aren't named because it would make the gossip not credible. It's no surprise the players hated SVG. We'll see what Green brings to the franchise.
I some how skipped this post until now. It's a great post. And it's so true. JJ was so ticked that he didn't get traded to a contender but his retirement shows that Griff could have really tried.....it just wasn't possible.
What Redick was really cheesed about is that he wasn’t given an outright release when the Pels couldn’t trade him to team of his preference. I’m sure he envisioned a farewell title run with the Nets after being allowed to walk, only to wind up marooned on a middling Mavs team. Considering what his last deal paid him, he might have considered keeping his mouth shut, but then again he has a social media empire to build. But I have no trouble believing David “Family Man” Griffin gave JJ the impression at some point that he would take care of him while never really promising anything too specific…
That is true. There IS an inherent problem with running a business where you're calling the people you have to break the hearts if and treat as assets 'family'. We constantly hear players talk about bad endings but reconcile it with the phrase "business is business". When you try to create a family environment.....can't do that anymore.
This is how it often goes. The truth tends to sit somewhere in the middle and bitter ex coaches, players, etc. embellish details to make it seem as dire as possible. As someone said later in this thread, that is why most of these sources aren?t named. They don?t tend to be very credible and/or have an agenda. Not necessarily truthless, but embellished
Yes . I blame the internet and 5G
Yeah. I still cringe at the Jahlil “welcome to the family” bit. I like the sentiment, but professional sports are a cutthroat business. If you aren’t the franchise piece, you are expendable. Despite our intentions, we need to avoid making promises and things of that nature. Things change. You don’t want to give people the wrong impression
Sweet dreams Pels twitter pic.twitter.com/Gh0iZmG12q
— NOLA Pelicans Reddit (@PelicansReddit) September 27, 2021
The local media and bloggers look pretty stupid right now. :hihi:
Ha.
In case anyone missed what Snarly is referring to....
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ady-for-season
All of them? Nah. Just the same few.
Look it’s SVG
"The guy's a great basketball player. He'll come back, he'll be fine."@realStanVG weighs in on the news that Zion will be ready for opening night despite having foot surgery this offseason. pic.twitter.com/PEnyr6TxoG
— NBA TV (@NBATV) September 27, 2021
You are misrepresenting Redick's complaint in order to dismiss it. He says that was told he'd either be traded to an East coast contender or bought out. If Griff said "hey, we're going to do whatever is best for the team" and wound up trading him somewhere he didn't like then I would 100% agree with you...that's not at all what he's saying though. Obviously none of us know what the conversation was between the two of them and we may never hear Griff's side of the story but the buck has to stop with him. Again, if you're going to bring someone in to be an influence on your young stars, it's an incredible backfire for that person to be blasting you on the way out.
Zion says Griff didn't play the piano for him. Says "Come on now, I'm not letting a grown man come to my hotel room and play the piano"
— Shamit Dua (@FearTheBrown) September 27, 2021
As per the usual for these rumor spreaders, there will be no penalty for Christian Clark writing that trash. He's got the clicks for nola.com. They already won.
Who is lying? Besides David Griffin, I mean.
Was he making fun of Fletch too?
Zion gives @FletcherWDSU the "question of the day" award:
— New Orleans Pelicans (@PelicansNBA) September 27, 2021
Asked about his relationship with the city and team pic.twitter.com/yocx1lgDby
Yeah, this media day shows how stupid the local media is. Everything Clark pretty much wrote that wasn?t already known has been debunked by actual sources.
And all of the media guys who spent Thursday and Friday, taking everything in this article as fact, on their podcasts, look stupid too.
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Well, whether he meant it or not, I am ecstatic that he denied the rumors so emphatically. It was a mature response and gives me hope for his future as a leader. Very proud of him
You can tell he's annoyed. Honestly, this kid just wants to play ball and all the rumors (politics) of the game don't interest him that much. He had a issue w/ Griff and the way they used him the first year but we all did right? Clearly, he wants to win and he should want to win, I would hate to have someone on our team who didn't want that. Also, he's prob still influenced by his parents and they could be the ones not feeling New Orleans/the team as much and/or just concerned as parents are but as he grows he will get to make more of his own decisions so we shall see.
I do think it's not just Griff. I mean he has made some mistakes but he is trying to rectify those things. Zion has to do his part, keep that weight down and stay healthy. This injury concerns me a bit but hopefully he'll be ready by the season opener.
He quite famously didn't like being used in bursts and wanted to play more sustained minutes. Which should surprise nobody, I expect most NBA players want to play, especially if they've been unable to for some time.
Many people on the board - me included - found the timing of his bursts pretty wonky and unhelpful. If he's only going to get to play 5 minutes at a time, you have to be selective with who he plays those minutes with and when they're placed in the quarters, and there was some concern over how those choices were being made.
That thing?? This is another issue that never really came from his mouth. Maybe he didn't like it, but I never got that it was some major issue. Other than media, once again, trying to make it a major issue.
Especially since it only lasted a few games when he first came back. It's not like they had him on a minute "burst" restriction for half the games he played. We're talking maybe 5 games?
It also ended up with him having a pretty historic rookie season scoring wise.
Griffin showing up to Trey Murphy?s house after the draft pic.twitter.com/7woXgkQ406
— Quailman (Doug) (@IamQuailman) September 24, 2021
I think it is telling how tight-lipped this organization is, that no one leaked that Zion injured his foot and had surgery. You would think one of the supposal sources that Clark has would have leaked that fact to him.
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Curious as to what about his response made you feel that way? It seems some just want to feel that way and even when the words come directly from the player's mouth, they do not want to believe it. What his response shows me is that he is not happy with the rumor spinning media we have that just likes to take any information they scrounge up and run with it without checking their facts first.
I don't really think that's how most sports people think. Of course, I don't know him personally so I can't say this for sure, but I'd pretty surprised if Zion was thinking ''well, I did dislike those minute restrictions and my rotations at the time, but I did hit some historic scoring rates''. Much more likely, I feel, that he would see it as ''I was in historic company playing those minutes, imagine how many of those games we could have won if I had been allowed to play some more.'' People also tend to remember beginnings and endings more than what happens in the middle, and Zion's career began with a game against the Spurs where he pulled us within a handful of points towards the end of the game before being benched again, and his rookie season closed with 5 games in which he averaged 21 minutes per game and we went 1-4. That's probably what he remembers more than playing 33 minutes against Golden State in his 12th game.
At least Griff. is not Dolan . Randle must have been drunk to like this ********
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCuQSbcrcDQ
EXACTLY!
We go through this every time wannabe insiders show up here.
THERE ARE NO LOCAL INSIDERS IN NOLA
But still, the next time someone pops up shilling some pessimistic rumor, people will be drinking the kool-aid.
No one knew about the Boogie trade, they constantly whiff on the draft, didn't know about Zion's injury in the bubble, thought Boston were the front runners for AD.....the list goes on and on.
A better article by Rod Walker
https://www.nola.com/sports/pelicans...e23c12244.html
It could be worse. At least David Letterman is not one of our journalists
Did you watch the video? He struggled to feign sincerity. It was very different from the rest of his press conference, and we know how little to believe the other stuff as well. I know the Clark article clearly has huge holes in it, but Zion's family not wanting NOLA is real. Zion doesn't get together in the summer with the team, or even talk to them, as we learned from BI's press conference. He avoided being around the team in Vegas. I don't know how many clear signs you need.
Yep, watched it and still do not get your, obviously, pre-determined conclusion. I think you are stretching to get to the conclusion you had before the press conference even occurred. Did you catch the part about him having surgery when the summer league started (which is around the time the team was in Vegas)?