Deal Done

IF TRUE

Need to repeat: I don't know if the pick swaps are legit yet.

Ramona Shelburne tweeted it, and she's generally pretty decent on LA news, but it wasn't mentioned in the Wojbomb.

Can anyone provide addition sourcing for the swaps?

I'm going through extreme mood-swings right now.

If we keep Ball and Ingram, no further trades, and there's no pick swaps, then I hate it.

If we make another move, then I like it.

If we make another move AND got the pick swaps, then I love it.

I don't know what to feel yet. Too much uncertainty.

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Originally Posted by 13 - 3

So Boston did back out

The Boston Celtics refused to make Jayson Tatum available in trade talks with New Orleans, league sources say, putting the Lakers in prime position to strike the deal that teams Anthony Davis with LeBron James

— Marc Stein (@TheSteinLine) June 15, 2019

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Which makes the Lakers look like even bigger suckers falling for Griff's "Pick Swap" magic. My God the guy is a genius.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

I'm going through extreme mood-swings right now.

If we keep Ball and Ingram, no further trades, and there's no pick swaps, then I hate it.

If we make another move, then I like it.

If we make another move AND got the pick swaps, then I love it.

I don't know what to feel yet. Too much uncertainty.

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Deep breaths. Soft focus. Think positive. Remember Griff ain't Dell - all of a sudden we are recouping all of our lost 1st rounders in a single trade.

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So Boston did back out

The Boston Celtics refused to make Jayson Tatum available in trade talks with New Orleans, league sources say, putting the Lakers in prime position to strike the deal that teams Anthony Davis with LeBron James

— Marc Stein (@TheSteinLine) June 15, 2019

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I think this is Boston doing damage control wince Tatum is now on their team. A lot better to say, "we refused to deal you" than "we were totally going to trade you but got turned down".

maaaan I hate that it's the Lakers but we just raped their desperate asses [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

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If Griff moves Ingram and the 2021 LA pick for John Collins, and DID get the swap rights, then can he be named Executive of the Year despite not taking the job until like three months ago?

Does this mean that... ultimately... the Nets won the Billy King trade?

Ainge never reached a finals with any of those assets, never won another championship, and the Nets fought back into the playoffs without any of those assets AND will probably steal Ainge's superstar this offseason.

Lmfaooooo https://t.co/71kuTTaKUi

— Shamit Dua (@FearTheBrown) June 15, 2019

Griff ain't even picked up the phone until Pelinka threw three firsts on the table :hihi:

Dell Demps died for this

— Riley Demps �� (@rddemps) June 15, 2019

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

If Griff moves Ingram and the 2021 LA pick for John Collins, and DID get the swap rights, then can he be named Executive of the Year despite not taking the job until like three months ago?

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Imagine... 3 years from now. We got like the 26th pick. We trade to the 30pick. Then, swap back into the lotto at the 6th pick.

Dell Demps died for this

— Riley Demps �� (@rddemps) June 15, 2019

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From their instagram stories both hart and Ingram seem happy. Hart's smiling like a goofball and Ingram posted a big smiley emoji.

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Originally Posted by Taker597

Imagine... 3 years from now. We got like the 26th pick. We trade to the 30pick. Then, swap back into the lotto at the 6th pick.

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The fact that that's possible is brutal.

Like Shamit said, if this deal IS filled with these pick swaps, then with Lebron being about to turn 35 this season, the Lakers may have just Billy King'd themselves.

Atlanta is one of these interested teams. https://t.co/rWfAU2tKu1

— Chris Kirschner (@ChrisKirschner) June 15, 2019

ATL, you can have #4 for #10 and #17.

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The fact that that's possible is brutal.

Like Shamit said, if this deal IS filled with these pick swaps, then with Lebron being about to turn 35 this season, the Lakers may have just Billy King'd themselves.

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I think there is more movement coming and the swaps are legit. This deal is not yet complete.

Do it. https://t.co/zCw5meCgeZ

— Shamit Dua (@FearTheBrown) June 15, 2019

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Originally Posted by Taker597

Imagine... 3 years from now. We got like the 26th pick. We trade to the 30pick. Then, swap back into the lotto at the 6th pick.

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I'm not sure you can trade your pick and THEN swap back. Basically you choose which pick you will accept out of yours and the Lakers and then that's your pick.

I could be wrong but I think the rules say something along the lines of basically "you receive the better of your and the Lakers pick". Or something like that. So we'd already have #6 in that scenario.

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Originally Posted by Hoochican

I think there is more movement coming and the swaps are legit. This deal is not yet complete.

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Like I said, my mental state is in limbo right now because of the unclear reality of this trade.

If we make another good move, and we DID get the pick swaps, then this was a phenomenal deal.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

I'm not sure you can trade your pick and THEN swap back. Basically you choose which pick you will accept out of yours and the Lakers and then that's your pick.

I could be wrong but I think the rules say something along the lines of basically "you receive the better of your and the Lakers pick". Or something like that. So we'd already have #6 in that scenario.

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I believe this is true.

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Originally Posted by JunkHead

From their instagram stories both hart and Ingram seem happy. Hart's smiling like a goofball and Ingram posted a big smiley emoji.

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links man links

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Let’s see if AD can skip talking to the media after a loss in LA ��

— Chris Conner (@Impatientbull) June 15, 2019

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Do it. https://t.co/zCw5meCgeZ

— Shamit Dua (@FearTheBrown) June 15, 2019

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thaaaat would be beautiful i might actually cry if we were that petty [emoji23]

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If I had to take an informed guess on the draft considerations

We get #4 overall

2021
2022 pick swap
2023
2024 pick swap

Which is haul without getting into the fact Griff likely isn't done.

— Shamit Dua (@FearTheBrown) June 15, 2019

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links man links

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On a tablet and I'm dumb and don't know how. Search on instagram for Brandon Ingram and it's first result. Check his story. And for hart... I saw it on twitter. Andrew Lopez linked it I think.

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thaaaat would be beautiful i might actually cry if we were that petty [emoji23]

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I don't think we will because if Griff is serious about moving any of the LA pieces, he will probably want to do so ASAP in order to control who is drafted with any other picks that get involved, but it's funny to consider.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

The fact that that's possible is brutal.

Like Shamit said, if this deal IS filled with these pick swaps, then with Lebron being about to turn 35 this season, the Lakers may have just Billy King'd themselves.

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What happens if AD plays for 1 season and ends up absolutely HATING the Lakers? That's what makes this trade (especially if pick swap rights are true) crazy. Or what if AD only signs a 1-2 year deal and leaves after LBJ?

I mean SO MUCH could happen in LA that could absolutely torpedo their team and we will have their 1sts through it all.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

I don't think we will because if Griff is serious about moving any of the LA pieces, he will probably want to do so ASAP in order to control who is drafted with any other picks that get involved, but it's funny to consider.

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let a man dream damn you! [emoji38]

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Originally Posted by JunkHead

On a tablet and I'm dumb and don't know how. Search on instagram for Brandon Ingram and it's first result. Check his story. And for hart... I saw it on twitter. Andrew Lopez linked it I think.

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From Josh Hart’s IG story.... pic.twitter.com/CEsbZl6UYl

— Andrew Lopez (@_Andrew_Lopez) June 15, 2019

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

What happens if AD plays for 1 season and ends up absolutely HATING the Lakers? That's what makes this trade (especially if pick swap rights are true) crazy. Or what if AD only signs a 1-2 year deal and leaves after LBJ?

I mean SO MUCH could happen in LA that could absolutely torpedo their team and we will have their 1sts through it all.

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or even they just aren't that good or like ad is prone too gets hurt

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

From Josh Hart’s IG story.... pic.twitter.com/CEsbZl6UYl

— Andrew Lopez (@_Andrew_Lopez) June 15, 2019

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Thankya kindly

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

What happens if AD plays for 1 season and ends up absolutely HATING the Lakers? That's what makes this trade (especially if pick swap rights are true) crazy. Or what if AD only signs a 1-2 year deal and leaves after LBJ?

I mean SO MUCH could happen in LA that could absolutely torpedo their team and we will have their 1sts through it all.

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*cough*

Anthony Davis, who could sign extension with the Lakers this offseason, will play out the 2019-20 season and enter free agency next year, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

— Chris Haynes (@ChrisBHaynes) June 15, 2019

*cough*

Sounds like he's uhhhh... keeping his options open.

Pick swap ins cool option so long as the Lakers take a dip in the next 3-5years and the Pelicans take off. Otherwise we won't even bother.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

From Josh Hart’s IG story.... pic.twitter.com/CEsbZl6UYl

— Andrew Lopez (@_Andrew_Lopez) June 15, 2019

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damn I might end liking him as the best piece in the trade lol

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If we keep 4 and everyone stays, Garland is not an option.

1. We have Ball at PG
2. Hart is backup (eh, maybe not)
3. Jrue can play backup PG
4. He's a Rich Paul client, who at this point, isn't welcome in New Orleans. He's close to Roger Goodell level. He will get murked.

I'm not assuming any other deals get done. I hope I'm wrong.

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or even they just aren't that good or like ad is prone too gets hurt

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Yep. The pick swap rights thing is insane if true. You can basically field as competitive of a team as you want and then look at how the lottery played out this year with teams jumping up. So the Lakers end up being bad or even just bad enough to get into the lottery and they make a jump up....

And we get the pick. And for 7 years having control over their pick? That's flipping crazy if true.

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let a man dream damn you! [emoji38]

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You have been quite, lately. Missed you and the Australian peeps.

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Pick swap ins cool option so long as the Lakers take a dip in the next 3-5years and the Pelicans take off. Otherwise we won't even bother.

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Luckily, there's a decent likelihood of those things happening.

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Originally Posted by Primetime

If we keep 4 and everyone stays, Garland is not an option.

1. We have Ball at PG
2. Hart is backup (eh, maybe not)
3. Jrue can play backup PG
4. He's a Rich Paul client, who at this point, isn't welcome in New Orleans. He's close to Roger Goodell level. He will get murked.

I'm not assuming any other deals get done. I hope I'm wrong.

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That's why I'm totally happen to see if ATL would consider swapping #4 for #10 and #17.

Then we take Chuma Okeke and Bol Bol. That gives us another SF, one who can defend very well and legitimately shoot, and another legit big who can block shots and also legitimately shoot.

Shooting shooting shooting at multiple positions.

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You have been quite, lately. Missed you and the Australian peeps.

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lol, have you seen this place the last few weeks? threads were jist going nuts lol

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Pick swap ins cool option so long as the Lakers take a dip in the next 3-5years and the Pelicans take off. Otherwise we won't even bother.

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I mean it's literally everything they could offer us outside of Kuzma. Absolutely nothing else could have been included (you can only trade 1st round picks up to 6 years in the future so if we got 19, 21, 23 we literally couldn't have gotten a 4th from them). Plus all their young players, AND pick swap rights? It's a huge deal. Massive.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

That's why I'm totally happen to see if ATL would consider swapping #4 for #10 and #17.

Then we take Chuma Okeke and Bol Bol. That gives us another SF, one who can defend very well and legitimately shoot, and another legit big who can block shots and also legitimately shoot.

Shooting shooting shooting at multiple positions.

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I don't think we make that trade. Historically, 4 carries more value than 10+17.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

I mean it's literally everything they could offer us outside of Kuzma. Absolutely nothing else could have been included (you can only trade 1st round picks up to 6 years in the future so if we got 19, 21, 23 we literally couldn't have gotten a 4th from them). Plus all their young players, AND pick swap rights? It's a huge deal. Massive.

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Do we know swap rights are for sure involved? I'm not assuming anything.

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Originally Posted by Primetime

I don't think we make that trade. Historically, 4 carries more value than 10+17.

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Sure, but for us, in our position?

Nah. There's no sure fire prospects at #4 except maybe Culver, and Culver is no sure fire shooter, which we desperately need. Rather trade down and get the opportunity to try and get multiple bites at the cherry for shooters with upside.

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Originally Posted by Primetime

Do we know swap rights are for sure involved? I'm not assuming anything.

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Shelburne tweeted it. She's generally pretty good on LA stuff, but she's the only one, so who knows?

I can’t begin to tell you how true this is. Not just Brandon, but his family and team as well. https://t.co/eRmVLPH6bo

— Shawn F Matian, Esq. (@ShawnMatianEsq) June 15, 2019

Intriguing.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

I'm going through extreme mood-swings right now.

If we keep Ball and Ingram, no further trades, and there's no pick swaps, then I hate it.

If we make another move, then I like it.

If we make another move AND got the pick swaps, then I love it.

I don't know what to feel yet. Too much uncertainty.

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My exact feelings

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Sure, but for us, in our position?

Nah. There's no sure fire prospects at #4 except maybe Culver, and Culver is no sure fire shooter, which we desperately need. Rather trade down and get the opportunity to try and get multiple bites at the cherry for shooters with upside.

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For once, I'm telling you: I think you undershot our trade.

If we move 4 to Hawks, I'd expect it to be 8 + 17 or even 8 + 10.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

I can’t begin to tell you how true this is. Not just Brandon, but his family and team as well. https://t.co/eRmVLPH6bo

— Shawn F Matian, Esq. (@ShawnMatianEsq) June 15, 2019

Intriguing.

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I really feel like these kids could step up big time getting away from that cesspool.

If we flip them, we flip them.....but I think they'll be loadd better here than they were there.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Shelburne tweeted it. She's generally pretty good on LA stuff, but she's the only one, so who knows?

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Definitely is. But until there's other reports, I'm taking trade on face value. Lets pray together lol