Sure, but that doesn't count all of the 10 day contracts, or guys that got cut and went to China, or injured players, or whatever. I was actually surprised when I read in Lowe that there are less than 500 people been active this season, with all the injuries that have occurred.Quote:
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Give Randle an extension!
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03-08-2019, 02:10 PMPelicanidae
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03-08-2019, 02:13 PMTinmanYeah, I'm just using actual actives as a baseline & it is rather scary that (Randle negative D rating > Active players by night. Pay the man.:eek:Quote:
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03-08-2019, 02:15 PMPelicanidaeYeah, those numbers Shamit posted were pretty crazy. I've been complaining about his defense for a WHILE now, and even I was surprised at exactly how tragic he is on D.Quote:
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03-08-2019, 02:18 PMTinmanI wonder if OTHERS in this thread will reference Shamit's Negative Randle Review?Quote:
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03-08-2019, 02:20 PMPelicanidaeNah, probably not. They're happy enough to reference BSS when they think it supports their point, but they'll probably duck on of their lead writer's points when it contradicts them.Quote:
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03-08-2019, 02:23 PM13 - 3Do you have a source on that? Or is that your opinion? And I’m talking about 2019 season not the 2017 season.Quote:
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03-08-2019, 02:27 PM13 - 3I wonder what Shamit or whoever this person is thinks of LeBron’s defense? Harden’s Defense? Is defense really being played in the NBA right now?Quote:
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03-08-2019, 02:30 PMTinmanWait, you know McNamara, but have no idea who Shamit is? Hmmmmm!!Quote:
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03-08-2019, 02:30 PMPelicanidaeShamit Dua is one of the lead writers for Bourbon Street Shots and also he does the In The NO podcast. You know, Bourbon Street Shots. The same Bourbon Street Shots site you were posting the other day, claiming they agree with you on Randle and that's why we should pay him. BSS was good enough for you then, why not now?Quote:
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03-08-2019, 02:31 PMTinmanSo, 3-13 knows McaNamara but has no idea who Shamit is? You find that a bit off kilter ?Quote:
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03-08-2019, 02:40 PM13 - 3Whatever.Quote:
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03-08-2019, 02:43 PMTinmanToo Funny. You just got a wedgy! Too quote the infamous GA25 -->> LolololololololololololplololololQuote:
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03-08-2019, 02:44 PM13 - 3Actually pretty funny you are nervous about it.Quote:
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03-08-2019, 02:50 PMTinmanNervous About what? That you have no clue who Shamit is ?Quote:
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It is 99.9% probability that if you knew MM, then you would know Shamit!
So, the folks that should be nervous are the ones closest to you! You have a tendency to fib.
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03-08-2019, 02:52 PM13 - 3OkayQuote:
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03-08-2019, 02:53 PM13 - 3
Pay Randle!
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03-08-2019, 02:55 PMTinmanI know!Quote:
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03-08-2019, 02:57 PM13 - 3When was the last time M.M. Posted. I’ll even give you a hint. Check my sign on date. Let that sink in a second. Moving on now.Quote:
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Give Randle his worth. 2/40- 3/60
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03-08-2019, 02:59 PMPelicanidae''Give Randle his worth'', proceeds to name two wildly different evaluations in worth.Quote:
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03-08-2019, 03:05 PMBlattman
It's funny because sometimes it feels like this fanbase is trapped in an never ending cycle. This whole thread reminds be of long debate about Ryan Anderson (what was his alias ? ItsRynosTime ?).
At the end of the day I will only offer an extension for an affordable contract. Randle is about to be 25, he will improve but it's hard to see him being more than peak Paul Millsap (which is good but not superstar-good) and first he will need to improve tremendously on the defensive end. Even if he does it's hard to envision seeing him peaking at the same time as our future young core. -
03-08-2019, 03:16 PM13 - 3If it makes you feel better,Quote:
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It's demonstrative to me that Laker fans, who sell Brandon Ingram based on PPG, think Julius Randle is the one who got away.
— David Fisher (@Fish_TBW) March 8, 2019
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03-08-2019, 03:19 PMTinmanDude , we all knew that already. You are truly nobody important.Quote:
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We frankly don't care who you know.
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03-08-2019, 03:24 PMPelicanidaeIt doesn't, because I don't really feel the need to have my views validated. It's cool that other people see things the way I do, but I wouldn't mind a single bit if I was the only one who saw things the way I do, because I have eyes, I can watch the games and check the stats myself, and that's all I need. Don't need consensus.Quote:
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03-08-2019, 03:24 PM13 - 3But you felt the need to bring MM up not me.Quote:
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03-08-2019, 03:30 PMTinmanDo you even remember what you post?Quote:
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You are the one that tossed MM name into the forum 3 days ago out of the blue as your friend asking if I had a problem with.
Whew- Now, you COULD be MM, trying to play his intellectually challenged doppelgänger.
You need to slow down & not try so hard. You tend to forget things.
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03-08-2019, 03:34 PMTinmanI gotta say- Fisher is the least respected writer of any of TBW or BSS . He tends to grab other folks ideas & makes them his own.Quote:
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03-08-2019, 03:36 PM13 - 3No need to be nervous . Why you so uptight about it?Quote:
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03-08-2019, 03:39 PMTinmanYou tried those already. I've also read Saul Alinsky's book . Nice try though, Skippy.Quote:
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03-08-2019, 03:41 PM13 - 3Have a great day! GuardianAngel will be here later on.Quote:
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03-08-2019, 03:42 PMTinmanAlways doQuote:
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03-08-2019, 05:05 PMMythrolBasically. I think most people assume we will have the cap space though since so much will change in the AD trade plus we have a lot of contracts coming off the books.Quote:
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03-15-2019, 09:22 PM13 - 3
Bump. At 40+ tonight.
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03-15-2019, 09:45 PMkinglio21093
Definitely worth a good deal.
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03-15-2019, 09:52 PMAusPel
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03-15-2019, 10:08 PMUNO Gracias
He is the tank commander we all wanted.
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03-15-2019, 11:27 PMGuardianAngel25
LoL and some think Julius Randle is worth no more then $13 million.. what a monster tonight!!
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03-16-2019, 01:31 AMPelicanidaeDon't get too ahead of yourself. What you mean is, ''he's been scoring so much more'', not that he's been so much better. His rebounding numbers are actually down, and his defense is as putrid as ever.Quote:
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03-16-2019, 07:58 AMMythrol
Randle truly is starting to develop into Cousins. No defense but can score a ton. His size I think will limit him from ever hitting peak Cousins.
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03-16-2019, 08:11 AMPelicanidae
Size and the fact that he isn't nearly the rebounder Cousins is, nor is he as gifted a passer.
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03-16-2019, 09:03 AM13 - 3Does James Harden play defense? Is Lebron playing defense? Is anyone in the league playing defense? You worried about something nobody cares about in this league right now.Quote:
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03-16-2019, 09:06 AM13 - 3You could say the same for Holiday and the other 12 on our team if that is how you want to look at it. If you want to blame bad defense start from the top. Thankfully we are in the final stretch with Gentry.Quote:
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03-16-2019, 10:00 AMPelicanidae''Is anyone in the league playing defense?''Quote:
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Paul George. Giannis. Harden's defense, while still bad, has actually improved a lot over the last two seasons. Russ is a pretty good defender most of the time. Kyrie's defense has improved a lot despite still not being great. KD plays good defense. John Collins is a solid defender. Jarrett Allen is a very good rim protector. Rudy Gobert is an excellent defender. A huge part of Jrue's value comes from the fact that he's such a gifted defender.
We all know that in today's game, the main focus for most people is offense. We all know that. You are not being clever, or observant by pointing it out. But the fact remains. The best teams in the league play defense.
1) Milwaukee Bucks. Best record in the league. Also best defensive rating in the league.
2) Toronto Raptors. Second best record in the league. 7th in defense, Kawhi Leonard is 2x DPOY.
3) Denver Nuggets. Fourth best record in the league. 12th in Defense.
4) Indiana Pacers. Fifth best record. 2nd in defense.
The only team in the top 5 teams in the ENTIRE LEAGUE which isn't also a top 15 defense is Golden State. They're 16th in defense, but they're also Golden State and currently start 3x MVP awards, a DPOY, and 5 all stars. So, they manage.
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03-16-2019, 10:06 AM13 - 3Quote:
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Remember when Gentry and Erman were defense genius?
Wait a minute! LOL
It starts from the top. At least you agree with me Randle is not the problem.
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03-16-2019, 10:11 AMPelicanidaeNeither Milwaukee nor Toronto will go to the finals? You betting that much on Boston?Quote:
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Cause Boston are 5th in defense.
Or maybe you've got your money on Philadelphia clicking together and making that run?
Philly are 11th in defense.
Uh oh, turns out that being good at defense is important, and I'm still right, and you're still wrong.
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03-16-2019, 10:12 AMpelicanchampYou have psychic powers. Troll.Quote:
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03-16-2019, 10:16 AM13 - 3Fine be like that . At least I’m not a hater. I’m just hoping for a new coach and a Randle extension in the offseason.Quote:
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03-16-2019, 10:30 AM13 - 3Quote:
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It is interesting you brought up Milwaukee. I believe that is Budenhoizer coaching them in 1st year. UNO fan has been high on him. I must admit fascinated but what they have done in 1 Year under him. Great job for their front office. With the talent we have right now we should be like the Bucks or Raptors. The Nuggets have been riddiled with injuries too.
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03-16-2019, 10:32 AMPelicanidaeI'm not sure why you keep asking me about Gentry. I want him replaced too. No, Gentry isn't good at running a strong defense. What's your point?Quote:
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03-16-2019, 10:34 AMJJackisangry
I hope we can get him around 15 mil each for 3 years. He’s a player you can build around, but I’d hesitate to throw the house at him. Chances are he will get a YUGE deal and if we are to believe what we have seen and heard he is likely staying no matter what.
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03-16-2019, 10:50 AMMythrolMy dude, I couldn't pay Randle a bigger compliment than saying he really is developing into Cousins. You seriously gotta drop it down a notch in your defense of Randle.Quote:
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And as far as your defense question, Lebron is old now but when he won those rings he was absolutely playing defense. How many rings has Harden won? See lack of defense is fine during the regular season when teams dont scheme and gameplan as much but once playoff time comes you better believe defense matters. A LOT.
In the past almost 40 years only 1 team has ever won a NBA championship with a defensive rating higher than 12th in the league. That team was 17 years ago.
Over the past 10 years 5 of the championship teams have had an equal or better defensive rating than offensive one. On average over the past nearly 40 years the winning championship team have actually had a higher average defensive rating than offensive one (5.4 ranked offensive rating vs 5.22 ranked defensive rating). Defense is absolutely important if you want to actually win a Championship.