Philadelphia 76ers vs New Orleans Pelicans 12-10-2017

Pels on fire!

We cannot miss right now

Rondo is making all the difference. He is having an incredible game

Jrue is on fire

THR33 THR33S!?

We saved all our points for the fourth apparently. This is surreal, every shot is going down. Rondo has 15 assists. Jrue has hit multiple threes like layups. Our starting five is 9/14 from 3.

Jrue is infinitely better when he is off the ball and just has to think about his own scoring.

The Pels switching defense remains ridiculous. Not only that they switch everything, but then the bigs, and A.D. in particular, never wants to come over and help the little guard being posted up by the opposing big. They just watch it happen.

Again, as with Clark earlier, what the hell was Moore doing -- he just turned his back and ran away from Simmons leaving A.D. to cover 2 guys and an entire side of the floor himself.

Raining 3s

#GetRondo20Assists

Because of course lol

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Silly play by AD ...

That was not a flagrant. At all.

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Originally Posted by Alg_Hornet

Silly play by AD ...

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Silly, definitely a foul, but not a flagrant.

flagrant 1 :idoh:

they'd probably toss Boogie over that. but A.D. doesn't have that rep.

I just don't understand how you can play AD when you see him constantly grabbing his groin.

I blame the players for a lot of stuff but as a head coach you MUST step in and be concerned about player health. Especially when there is history of issues with not handling injuries correctly here.

Cornrow Jrue out here balling.

Jrue says screw it, let's get 30

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

I just don't understand how you can play AD when you see him constantly grabbing his groin.

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He should still be on a minutes restriction.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

I just don't understand how you can play AD when you see him constantly grabbing his groin.

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I think they're resigned to the fact that he won't play Vs Houston (very probably) so that game is probably a loss, and if they sit him now then this game might be a loss too. If he's gonna sit next game either way, might as well get this win and keep the 500 record.

Maybe.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

He should still be on a minutes restriction.

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Yeah who decided he should be playing so many minutes so soon after? Geez. It’s not worth it to risk it right now.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

I just don't understand how you can play AD when you see him constantly grabbing his groin.

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Completely agree. Worried this is going to be a chronic issue if they don't get AD some rest.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

I think they're resigned to the fact that he won't play Vs Houston (very probably) so that game is probably a loss, and if they sit him now then this game might be a loss too. If he's gonna sit next game either way, might as well get this win and keep the 500 record.

Maybe.

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That's a horrible way to think. As a coach you must be concerned about player health when they refuse to be themselves.

JRU3

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

I just don't understand how you can play AD when you see him constantly grabbing his groin.

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need this win, and at a certain point man...I mean what good is having A.D. on the roster if he never actually plays?

I would not accuse A.D. of faking anything, but I do wonder sometimes if a highly injury prone guy who is used to constantly being hurt might not feel and react to 1000 little aches and pains that more durable guys just play through without worrying too much about it

Rondo damn near has 20 assists

Jrue has the basket scoped right now. He's hit five threes

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

That's a horrible way to think. As a coach you must be concerned about player health when they refuse to be themselves.

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I don't know what they're thinking, obviously, I'm just speculating. Personally I think that even if that was their logic, this game is safe enough to sit him anyway now.

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Originally Posted by Bricklayer

need this win, and at a certain point man...I mean what good is having A.D. on the roster if he never actually plays?

I would not accuse A.D. of faking anything, but I do wonder sometimes if a highly injury prone guy who is used to constantly being hurt might not feel and react to 1000 little aches and pains that more durable guys just play through without worrying too much about it

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This isn't an ache or pain. He has a diagnosised injury and he's clearly either reinjured it or isn't fully healthy.

Any idea when Hill is coming back


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Any idea when Hill is coming back


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Still months out.

Nah i know jrue didn't just pass it into the stands

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

This isn't an ache or pain. He has a diagnosised injury and he's clearly either reinjured it or isn't fully healthy.

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yeah, I know, and it's something you don't mess with

on the other hand, if you spend your life in pain, you might become a little bit of a hyperchondriac. Uhoh, I felt something...did I break again? I've tweaked that before, and it's pretty debilitating when you do. You really can't raise your leg, it almost locks on you. But A.D.'s moving pretty naturally out there.

oh, and did I mention Jrue as a PG is a disater?

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Still months out.

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Wow I thought I heard December at one point . Thanks


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Well it was certainly an interesting win

So who's the game MVP?
AD, with 29/8 and 5 blocks?
Jrue, with 34/5/4?
Or Rondo, with 13 points, 18 assists, and 5 steals?

Good job fighting back after that terrible 3rd Quarter performance. Way to go, Cornrow Jrue!

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Wow I thought I heard December at one point . Thanks


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December is for Frank Jackson, unless he's had a set back that I haven't heard about.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

So who's the game MVP?
AD, with 29/8 and 5 blocks?
Jrue, with 34/5/4?
Or Rondo, with 13 points, 18 assists, and 5 steals?

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As good as Jrue was, especially in the 4th, I'd say Rondo

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

So who's the game MVP?
AD, with 29/8 and 5 blocks?
Jrue, with 34/5/4?
Or Rondo, with 13 points, 18 assists, and 5 steals?

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One of the latter two. Rondo was the best player, but Jrue was the critical one when he suddenly exploded to create the separation.

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oh, and did I mention Jrue as a PG is a disater?

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Well it's a good thing Rondo and Nelson are on the roster. Jrue is killing it as a SG

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One of the latter two. Rondo was the best player, but Jrue was the critical one when he suddenly exploded to create the separation.

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I'd give it to Jrue, personally. He went insane in that fourth.

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Originally Posted by Bricklayer

yeah, I know, and it's something you don't mess with

on the other hand, if you spend your life in pain, you might become a little bit of a hyperchondriac. Uhoh, I felt something...did I break again? I've tweaked that before, and it's pretty debilitating when you do. You really can't raise your leg, it almost locks on you. But A.D.'s moving pretty naturally out there.

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On the one hand AD is a hypochondriac and on the other you've had the injury and know how debilitating it is.


Wut!?!?!

Look at AD' 's face when he left the game. He ain't faking the pain. He is playing through it. That's on the staff to sit him though.

good game,,,good win.....

AD might not play tomorrow and the team just may play with some energy if he dont...

jrue had his philly revenge lol...

Yeah AD probably not playing in a game that'll mean more than tonight.

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Well it's a good thing Rondo and Nelson are on the roster. Jrue is killing it as a SG

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exactly

Every time he goes to PG it's just a comedy of errors. But since he's shifted over he's been much much better and had a number of big games.

On the season, before this game even, Jrue is carrying a 12.8PER as a PG, averaging 17.1pts per 48 on .482 eFG%, vs. a 17.6PER as a SG while averaging 25.2pts per 48 on a .526 eFG%.

Basically, he's a SG, which is actually ok, actually what the Pels were hoping he would be paired with Rondo. But you do have to keep Rondo or Nelson out there, because Jrue as a PG has actually become somebody who hurts you. Decisionmaking as a primary ballhandler is just ludicrous.

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Originally Posted by Bricklayer

exactly

Every time he goes to PG it's just a comedy of errors. But since he's shifted over he's been much much better and had a number of big games.

On the season, before this game even, Jrue is carrying a 12.8PER as a PG, averaging 17.1pts per 48 on .482 eFG%, and a 17.6PER as a SG while averaging 25.2pts on a .526 eFG%.

Basically, he's a SG, which is actually ok, actually what the Pels were hoping he would be paired with Rondo. But you do have to keep Rondo or Nelson out there, because Jrue as a PG has actually become somebody who hurts you. Decisionmaking as a primary ballhandler is just ludicrous.

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Agreed!

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

On the one hand AD is a hypochondriac and on the other you've had the injury and know how debilitating it is.


Wut!?!?!

Look at AD' 's face when he left the game. He ain't faking the pain. He is playing through it. That's on the staff to sit him though.

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I played through everything, always. I once separated my left shoulder playing basketball, which is the most excruciating injury I've ever had btw -- my lord was that bad -- and played a tennis tournament the next weekend with my upper arm strapped to my side because I figured I could toss the ball on my serve from my waist, and had a one handed backhand (I'm a righty).

That's only relevant because when I say you can't play through it, I mean it. My point about the hip flexor is that no matter how tough you are, even for a relatively minor strain that clears up in a few days, it really doesn't give you an option to tough it out. If it's hurt, you are just debilitated. It's not about fighting through pain, the leg just doesn't work. So if A.D. is still out there, and still functioning, basically it's not hurt (at least not the flexor), as in injured. He might feel it, but once it gets hurt, you can't use it anymore and he'd be obviously hobbled.

Now as far as him being in pain...well, I would anticipate him not being able to go tomorrow, and that may have been the plan even before the game started. btu a game in Houston is likely an automatic loss anyway, so as long as he is not actually injured, just feels something, then there is logic to leaving him out there to secure the win you actually have a shot at getting, and then resting him through the loss that's coming anyway.

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Originally Posted by Bricklayer

exactly

Every time he goes to PG it's just a comedy of errors. But since he's shifted over he's been much much better and had a number of big games.

On the season, before this game even, Jrue is carrying a 12.8PER as a PG, averaging 17.1pts per 48 on .482 eFG%, and a 17.6PER as a SG while averaging 25.2pts on a .526 eFG%.

Basically, he's a SG, which is actually ok, actually what the Pels were hoping he would be paired with Rondo. But you do have to keep Rondo or Nelson out there, because Jrue as a PG has actually become somebody who hurts you. Decisionmaking as a primary ballhandler is just ludicrous.

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That's ok. Would Portland ever let McCollum run the point?