Warriors at Pelicans in the blender 12/4/17

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Originally Posted by Alg_Hornet

Cousins gives up another 3

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Cousins is a 6'11" 270lb center. Tasking him with stopping Steph Curry and Nick Young at the 3pt line, or having to protect the rim and recover all the way out to the top of the ciurcle for a Draymond 3pt shot is ridiculous. I would go so far as to say there has never been a 270lb center in history who could have success at that.

Gentry is a great offensive mind ...but he is an assistant coach . This team is so mentally weak and can’t handle adversity. We all knew the warriors we are going to make a run and we didn’t handle it well .

Told my wife that the 20 point half time lead will be a 10 point loss...

So freakin predictable. Their coach adapted.. ours sucks.

Twas fun while it lasted

Curry injured. Couldn't happen to a better guy except Durant and Draymond.

Hope it's broke for the season.

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Originally Posted by Bricklayer

Cousins is a 6'11" 270lb center. Tasking him with stopping Steph Curry and Nick Young at the 3pt line, or having to protect the rim and recover all the way out to the top of the ciurcle for a Draymond 3pt shot is ridiculous. I would go so far as to say there has never been a 270lb center in history who could have success at that.

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He has no problems with chucking up 3s ... he needs to go out there and defend Green and not give him uncontested 3s

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

When he has draymond to back him up.

He's a coward that is riding coattails.

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"Hold me back Dray! Hold me back Dray!" Give me a break.

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Originally Posted by Alg_Hornet

Gentry is a great offensive mind ...but he is an assistant coach . This team is so mentally weak and can’t handle adversity. We all knew the warriors we are going to make a run and we didn’t handle it well .

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The Warriors are averaging outscoring their opponents by 20 in the 3rd this season.

Is every team and coach mentally weak?

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Originally Posted by Alg_Hornet

He has no problems with chucking up 3s ... he needs to go out there and defend Green and not give him uncontested 3s

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Again you're being ridiculous.

Just not guarding Dray on a three would be one thing. but not guarding Dray because you are the only big and have to trail Steph Curry on a drive inside to prevent a layup, and then recover 20 feet outside to challenge the 3pt shot on the kickout is ridiculous. He can't defend both ends of the play at once. Basically can't be done whether your name is Cousins, Drummond, Asik or anybody else that size.

Durant 3 ejections in last 18 games. 9nly had 2 in his first 810 games.

He has become draymond green.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Durant 3 ejections in last 18 games. 9nly had 2 in his first 810 games.

He has become draymond green.

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Trying too hard to prove he's not a beta.

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Originally Posted by Bricklayer

Trying too hard to prove he's not a beta.

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Only further proving, he is a beta.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

The Warriors are averaging outscoring their opponents by 20 in the 3rd this season.

Is every team and coach mentally weak?

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What does that have to do with constantly giving up leads and not closing out opponents.. and your two best players getting ejected in back to back home games ?

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Originally Posted by Bricklayer

Trying too hard to prove he's not a beta.

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I lovie Boogie. I hope he is in the long term plans.

Everyone should know by now. If Jrue goes off, we are going to lose... :(

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Originally Posted by Alg_Hornet

What does that have to do with constantly giving up leads and not closing out opponents.. and your two best players getting ejected in back to back home games ?

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The Warriors do this to everyone.

Both teams made the same amount of 2- and 3-pointers. Warriors made 19 free throws while Pels made 9.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Everyone should know by now. If Jrue goes off, we are going to lose... :(

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Yep. I hate that it’s beem that way. Such a waste of a good game by him.

This was always a loss. Actually notching the L doesn't change that.

But the team does fight. Flawed, goes on big runs, and terrible ones. Most of the team seems affected by colorblindness, making it difficult to pass to the right team. But it does not go gentle into that good night. The schedule softens up after Christmas, if A.D. can come back and actually stay back, and if they stay together, they still should be in the thick of things eventually.

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Originally Posted by Bricklayer

This was always a loss. Actually notching the L doesn't change that.

But the team does fight. Flawed, goes on big runs, and terrible ones. Most of the team seems affected by colorblindness, making it difficult to pass to the right team. But it does not go gentle into that good night. The schedule softens up after Christmas, if A.D. can come back and actually stay back, and if they stay together, they still should be in the thick of things eventually.

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There's a lot more to the team than AD and bits now. I think we'll be ok eventually

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

The Warriors do this to everyone.

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The warriors are a great team with great players . We can become a good team but the mental make up of the has to improve. We are right there in most games and at around the 5 minute mark we check out . Cousins is who he is but he need stop getting technicals and thrown out of games . When he is locked in , he is unstoppable but to often I’m seeing teams and refs get under his skin and then he becomes distracted and falls apart.

Most NBA games come down to the last 5 minutes ... That’s when execution and mental awareness become critical. Look at most of our losses this season . Pretty much 4th quarter meltdowns in the last 5 minutes . Losses that could easily be wins.

the book on Cousins in the nba. work the shift till hes on a shooter. Knowing he will not defend the shot at the 3 point line. sacrificing a possible rebound. Fact when Asik came in golden state was lost and our perimeter defense was tighter. I understand sacrifice but hes lazy on defense unless he can secure a stat. And sits on the three point line on offense giving up any chance of offensive rebounds. And the refs truly were horrible. I am a 20 year high school retired offical and these guys are bought off. there is no way they get away with these no calls.
It allows golden state to be more aggressive. Just not fair at all. Its really theatre out there instead of real basketball and the common fan does not see it.
PS Curry is going to be out for a while with that ankle. that was a full twist. 3 to 4 weeks. and a 3 point shooter, maybe longer

FIRE Alvin Gentry
He has loss control of this team.
No more free passes he is Terrible.
Winning by 19 at halftime and lose the game in this fashion.
I watched up close the coaching on the bench. DC has no respect for ANYONE.
He talks to these refs like Dogs all game. He needs someone to control him.
Leaving Miller on the bench is bad decision making. He needed to be on the floor.
It obvious Alvin Gentry has no business running any ball club.
This game was a must WIN at Home. We had strong command yet this Bum blows it.
Sorry for the RANT

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Originally Posted by schex

And the refs truly were horrible. I am a 20 year high school retired offical and these guys are bought off. there is no way they get away with these no calls.
It allows golden state to be more aggressive. Just not fair at all. Its really theatre out there instead of real basketball and the common fan does not see it.

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Couldn’t agree more.

Dude! Reports Cousins made his way in the back and found KD. Some type of scuffle happened. Doors closed. Security had to break it up.

I'm buying a Cousins jersey now. KD acting tough, Cousins checks him.

https://twitter.com/morganbeard/stat...85909692878848

Just gotta say, F the dubs and their bandwagon fans. I hope Curry broke his ankle and Durant got his nose broke.

That would be awesome. Says “almost-altercation” though. Doesn’t sound like they actually fought.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

https://twitter.com/morganbeard/stat...85909692878848

Just gotta say, F the dubs and their bandwagon fans. I hope Curry broke his ankle and Durant got his nose broke.

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Is Cousins trying to get himself suspended and fined? Or....

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Originally Posted by Rel11

Is Cousins trying to get himself suspended and fined? Or....

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If he managed to knock out that fake ****** Durant, I would be fine with it.

Durant is either Gloating or Crying. And he will never change.

Durant is such a **********

Here's a re-enactment of Cousins v Durant after the game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViwtwII83oE

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Dude! Reports Cousins made his way in the back and found KD. Some type of scuffle happened. Doors closed. Security had to break it up.

I'm buying a Cousins jersey now. KD acting tough, Cousins checks him.

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How is this a good thing for us ? If he fights him he gets suspended and now we have no Cousins or Davis .

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Originally Posted by Alg_Hornet

How is this a good thing for us ? If he fights him he gets suspended and now we have no Cousins or Davis .

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But we still have Asik the +/- beast

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Originally Posted by Alg_Hornet

How is this a good thing for us ? If he fights him he gets suspended and now we have no Cousins or Davis .

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If you haven't noticed I'm just angry and don't care about the future right now. I just want dubs blood.

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Originally Posted by Buckwheat

This game was a must WIN at Home.

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There was a time, back in the mists of history, when a young Sacramento team was up and coming, even had an injury prone All NBA PF. But as talented as they were, and they were talented, they kept on running into a gigantic dynastic roadblock in the Shaq and Kobe Lakers. And thing was, those Kings were talented, but there was a hint of softness about them. The Lakers kept smacking them around and the Kings seemed to be intimidated. But then one offseason they went out and signed in scrappy defensive guards in Bobby Jackson and Doug Christie, they traded for a major clutch shooting PG in Mike Bibby, eventually they would sprinkle in tough defensive minded vets like Jim Jackson or baked ones like Keon Clark. And a funny thing happened. You could see the worm turning before they actually began to scare the Lakers. First thing they did was start to compete. To get chippy. There were scuffles, a lot of chatter, and finally by 2002 they were ready. They weren't scared anymore and the result was an epic showdown in the WCF that's still replayed all the time on NBATV.

Now I am certainly not predicting any such thing so soon here. But I do think the cumulative effect of adding in so many tough vets and competitive chippy/edgy guys to a team that (sorry) was very soft and downtrodden and headed by a quiet softish looking superstar, has been to stiffen the team up. And it's not even that the vets or chippy/fiery guys lead the team in play every night. It's just that they make it hard for the team to look down at it's shoelaces and say yessir may I have another. If you saw the Pels out there tonight and thought they looked intimidated, you need to get your eyes checked. And competing is always where it starts. I think that kind of fighting spirit will eventually serve this team well after it figures out a lot of stuff, and gets back A.D. Still so messy, but rarely an easy out.

I was a huge Kings fan back in the Bibby/Christie/Divac/Stojakovic/Turkoglu/Webber days. What a time to be alive.

A bunch of fake tough guys (especially durant and green) with one tough dude (west) who get away with everything. Nice when someone checks them. Hopefully the pels can come closer and now play with some toughness.

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Originally Posted by AusPel

But we still have Asik the +/- beast

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Honestly I've been really impressed with Asik. Moving well out there, making the right defensive slides out of pick n rolls, keeping guys off the glass. Might not be such a given to use up a 1st to trade him away and lessen the value of that pick.

I honestly think this team eats popcorn and plays video games at halftime. Gentry wants his guys to unwind and have fun.

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Originally Posted by Rheem654

Honestly I've been really impressed with Asik. Moving well out there, making the right defensive slides out of pick n rolls, keeping guys off the glass. Might not be such a given to use up a 1st to trade him away and lessen the value of that pick.

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I can't see him being traded with that 1st TBH. He's actually useful despite the awful contract which is expiring next season anyway

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Originally Posted by luckyman

I honestly think this team eats popcorn and plays video games at halftime. Gentry wants his guys to unwind and have fun.

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Possibly, but if you've been watching the league this year that 3rd quarter was no surprise. Golden State is on pace to set a record, BY FAR, for biggest margin of victory in a quarter this season with how they have done in third quarters. they've just been ridiculously explosive all year in them. And I seriously think they are just as deadly as ever, but they have grown sloppy and entitled and basically can't get it up to play every night. So they waddle about in first halves, get a talking too, come out focused for the 3rd and try to get it all back, and then most of the time hang on to win. Which is pretty much what we saw this time.

It's actually a lot like what we've seen out of other dynastic teams and semi-dynastic teams over the years. The Lakers go to this point, so did the Pistons (twice). Miami got sloppy near the end of it's run. The Bulls never did with MJ driving them, but they might well have if he hadn't have taken a couple of years off to go gamble and play little league.

85 points

you just gave up 85 points in a span of 24 minutes

that should be unacceptable... no matter what team was on the other side of the court

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Originally Posted by AusPel

I can't see him being traded with that 1st TBH. He's actually useful despite the awful contract which is expiring next season anyway

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Unfortunately he has a player option to add another year after next season, which of course he surely will.

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Originally Posted by rt0307

85 points

you just gave up 85 points in a span of 24 minutes

that should be unacceptable... no matter what team was on the other side of the court

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Was "only" 76. :)


Thing is, as I've mentioned before, other teams aren't doing much better. Minny lost tonight to Memphis, in a game in which KAT was such a nonfactor that people started speculating he might be traded. Denver got blown out by DALLAS. A tough chippy hardfought loss to the Warriors is hardly the most embarrassing result of the night, no matter how it came about.

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Originally Posted by Bricklayer

Was "only" 76. :)


Thing is, as I've mentioned before, other teams aren't doing much better. Minny lost tonight to Memphis, in a game in which KAT was such a nonfactor that people started speculating he might be traded. Denver got blown out by DALLAS. A tough chippy hardfought loss to the Warriors is hardly the most embarrassing result of the night, no matter how it came about.

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my bad... for some reason I had 60-40 as the halftime score... just double-checked and saw it was 69-49

still... un-freaking-acceptable

edit: and right now what's really aggravating me is the fact that we've played GSW 3 times this season. ALL 3 the Pelicans had a double digit lead in. All 3 the Warriors came back easily

I'm sick of GSW seeing the Pelicans as the team that they test to see how far down they can get and still come back and win going away

it's infuriating

edit: that's 3.2 points per minute in the 2nd half

essentially 2 buckets a minute in the 2nd half

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Originally Posted by Bricklayer

Possibly, but if you've been watching the league this year that 3rd quarter was no surprise. Golden State is on pace to set a record, BY FAR, for biggest margin of victory in a quarter this season with how they have done in third quarters. they've just been ridiculously explosive all year in them. And I seriously think they are just as deadly as ever, but they have grown sloppy and entitled and basically can't get it up to play every night. So they waddle about in first halves, get a talking too, come out focused for the 3rd and try to get it all back, and then most of the time hang on to win. Which is pretty much what we saw this time.

It's actually a lot like what we've seen out of other dynastic teams and semi-dynastic teams over the years. The Lakers go to this point, so did the Pistons (twice). Miami got sloppy near the end of it's run. The Bulls never did with MJ driving them, but they might well have if he hadn't have taken a couple of years off to go gamble and play little league.

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I'm calling BS. I saw a Pelicans team completely forget how to move without the basketball. Everybody starts chucking threes. Jrue abandons everything that got him damn near 30 in the 1st half and hides in a corner. Cousins shoots a fade away 1 on 3. And as good as Golden St. might be out of the 3rd quarter, the Pelicans have been just as bad. Nothing new for them and I just about expected it. I didn't see Golden St. do anything differently to cause the Pelicans stupidity. They do the same out of timeouts.

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Originally Posted by Bricklayer

Unfortunately he has a player option to add another year after next season, which of course he surely will.

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This is false. After next season at ~$10mil, his contract is only partially guaranteed for $3mil. So essentially he will be on an expiring contract next season. Also forgot to add he's been great with setting good screens.