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02-19-2015, 04:46 PM
HornetGuru

Cole for salmons is highway robbery
02-19-2015, 04:47 PM
Asteptooslow

Jimmer will make sure all the new people know their positions before he sits. His Mormon spirit is strong.

Now, Cole is another effort player, similar to Douglas. It isn't easy to come in here and play along side Reke and Anderson type players. It will be interesting to see how he reacts.
02-19-2015, 04:53 PM
Andynola

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Originally Posted by Asteptooslow

What is a minor piece.

Jimmer?
02-19-2015, 04:53 PM
Mythrol

Norris Cole to Pels

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Originally Posted by Kurgan

Amen to that man. Now if only we'd been able to package jimmer and send him to idk, haiti, then eternal bliss. But i'm still ok with the trade as it is

Jimmer still on this team? Thank goodness we won't have to see him on the court anymore. . .best part of the Cole trade - nails his butt to the bench.
02-19-2015, 05:28 PM
Asteptooslow

How does a seemingly great player like Isaiah Thomas end up on 3 teams so quickly.
02-19-2015, 05:31 PM
MistaWhoDat

How soon before Norris Cole gets in the court can we expect to see him play tomorrow night ?

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02-19-2015, 05:37 PM
Mythrol

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Originally Posted by MistaWhoDat

How soon before Norris Cole gets in the court can we expect to see him play tomorrow night ?

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Everyone has to pass physicals. I'm sure every team is pushing for asap. It's a lot of players though.
02-19-2015, 05:44 PM
pawel

so do we have still this memphis second rounder?
02-19-2015, 05:48 PM
Mythrol

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Originally Posted by pawel

so do we have still this memphis second rounder?

It wasn't said to be in the trade so yeah I'd have to assume so. We really did just trade John Salmons and got 4 players back.
02-19-2015, 05:49 PM
Sleeper

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Originally Posted by pawel

so do we have still this memphis second rounder?

I highly doubt it. I wouldn't be surprised if another player is involved from our team and just not reported yet.
02-19-2015, 05:52 PM
Southpaw

The New Orleans Advocate's story on the trade.

http://www.theneworleansadvocate.com...e-john-salmons
02-19-2015, 05:58 PM
UNO Gracias

I hope this threat pushes Jimmer to produce better than he is. Cole>Jimmer, however not by much. If a Jimmer can find his shot Jimmer>Cole.
02-19-2015, 06:02 PM
Pantazis76

dont get your hopes up, Austin Rivers is statistically having a better season than Norris Cole
02-19-2015, 06:02 PM
UNO Gracias

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Originally Posted by Caffeinedisastr

Collison
Waiters
Morrow
Kanter

or

Ryno
Tyreke
Q-Pon
Cole?

Are we basing this on Jrue being at full health, and Ryno not playing like poo? If we are looking at it as presented its a toss up.
02-19-2015, 06:04 PM
Pantazis76

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Are we basing this on Jrue being at full health, and Ryno not playing like poo? If we are looking at it as presented its a toss up.

add Singler and Augustin to that bench and theyre much better
02-19-2015, 06:08 PM
Impose

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45bBxw5waqA

Can't wait...
02-19-2015, 06:12 PM
Mythrol

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Originally Posted by Pantazis76

dont get your hopes up, Austin Rivers is statistically having a better season than Norris Cole

In what? Only thing I could fine where Rivers was clear cut better was TO%. They are basically dead even in every shooting category, with Cole having a much better assist % and Rivers a better TO%.

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...3a71a1b6cd.jpg

To me it's basically getting QPon for free then if the only asset we really gave up has just been replaced by a guy who is on a cheaper contract and puts up almost identical numbers.
02-19-2015, 06:14 PM
Asteptooslow

Unfortunately they are pretty close in Free throw shooting as well.
02-19-2015, 06:14 PM
Pantazis76

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

In what? Only thing I could fine where Rivers was clear cut better was TO%. They are basically dead even in every shooting category, with Cole having a much better assist % and Rivers a better TO%.

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...3a71a1b6cd.jpg

To me it's basically getting QPon for free then if the only asset we really gave up has just been replaced by a guy who is on a cheaper contract and puts up almost identical numbers.

Yeh but, rivers is averaging more points in less minutes, so if youre looking for great offensive production, most likely not gonna get it, unless he suits our system well.. that being said his won a few championships so we finally have that exp.
02-19-2015, 06:16 PM
MichaelMcNamara

There is nothing in Cole's recent numbers that should be able to sell any of us. But lets not forget, the same could be (and was) said about Q-Pon when we got him.

Cole is the only guy on this team who has played major minutes in a Finals game and has earned championship rings. He is intense on the defensive end and now has something to prove. He also is coming from a smart team that communicates on defense. Sounds a lot like Q-Pon. He too might become a guy who is more than his numbers for this young, inexperienced team.
02-19-2015, 06:19 PM
Pantazis76

I wish we did a straight evans for chandler swap, he was on the market.. don't see why chandler + someone else to Pels for Evans wouldn't have been a good trade for both teams in the long run, i think if Jrue was healthy, evans would of been gone
02-19-2015, 06:21 PM
Mythrol

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Originally Posted by Pantazis76

Yeh but, rivers is averaging more points in less minutes, so if youre looking for great offensive production, most likely not gonna get it, unless he suits our system well.. that being said his won a few championships so we finally have that exp.

So one stat is all it takes to say Rivers is having a statistically better season? lol.

Who is even asking for offensive production from our backup PG? We are looking for a guy who can pass, set players up, and defend. We basically got a better true PG who has a ton more experience and has played for Champions. Is it GOAT? No. But for only Salmons? Heck Yes.
02-19-2015, 06:22 PM
Asteptooslow

That is a net win on anyone's book.

Hopefully, he wasn't a coattail player.
02-19-2015, 07:11 PM
Pelibeast

I like that Cole has experience being on a team that had a lot of ball handlers in Dwade and Bosh...will need to get used to that here
02-19-2015, 07:17 PM
Sleeper

I like that he plays defense. I think we got our Corey Joseph with inside game verse outside.
02-19-2015, 07:20 PM
MistaWhoDat

We haven't had a solid number two guy behind Jrue we now have that I believe so we are better of than we were .

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02-19-2015, 07:21 PM
Sleeper

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Originally Posted by Pantazis76

I wish we did a straight evans for chandler swap, he was on the market.. don't see why chandler + someone else to Pels for Evans wouldn't have been a good trade for both teams in the long run, i think if Jrue was healthy, evans would of been gone

Of course you did. Do you realize that most fans think you are crazy if you want to trade Evans for anything other than second best player on a playoff contending team? Of course not, you have an agenda to be proven right just like someone else on this board about AD. You will end up looking like a fool in the long run like other said poster.

Quit hating and embrace that he isn't perfect but perfect with AD.
02-19-2015, 07:21 PM
Mythrol

I like that at worst he can hold the ship together while Jrue is out and at best we might be able to get him for cheap this summer as a backup.

I'm not under the impression that he will get 3m/yr offers so I don't see us picking up his QO. Doesn't mean we won't do something like we did with Aminu however.
02-19-2015, 07:22 PM
Topdawg26

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

There is nothing in Cole's recent numbers that should be able to sell any of us. But lets not forget, the same could be (and was) said about Q-Pon when we got him.

Cole is the only guy on this team who has played major minutes in a Finals game and has earned championship rings. He is intense on the defensive end and now has something to prove. He also is coming from a smart team that communicates on defense. Sounds a lot like Q-Pon. He too might become a guy who is more than his numbers for this young, inexperienced team.

He will bring stability to the second team which is what I've been asking about for a long time. It will be refreshing to see a veteran PG control the game when the second team plays (which is why we gave up alot of leads in the 3rd quarter) instead of having them run around like chickens with their head cut off. And what's better is that he can shot the 3 ball. I'm all in for this trade.
02-19-2015, 07:22 PM
The Emperor

Michael Kinney ?@EyeAmTruth
Thunder has acquired a 2016 protected second round draft pick from the New Orleans Pelicans in exchange for guard Ish Smith.
02-19-2015, 07:25 PM
Sleeper

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Originally Posted by Topdawg26

He will bring stability to the second team which is what I've been asking about for a long time. It will be refreshing to see a veteran PG control the game when the second team plays (which is why we gave up alot of leads in the 3rd quarter) instead of having them run around like chickens with their head cut off. And what's better is that he can shot the 3 ball. I'm all in for this trade.

I agree with all but that he can shoot the three. 30 percent isn't very good.
02-19-2015, 07:28 PM
MichaelMcNamara

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Originally Posted by The Emperor

Michael Kinney ?@EyeAmTruth
Thunder has acquired a 2016 protected second round draft pick from the New Orleans Pelicans in exchange for guard Ish Smith.

and it looks like the Pels got a protected 2015 pick from the Thunder. No clue on the protections. Might be two fake picks (protected through #55)
02-19-2015, 07:29 PM
The Emperor

Royce Young @royceyoung · 6m 6 minutes ago
OKC also announces Ish Smith, 2015 protected second, rights to Latavious Williams + cash sent to Pels for a protected 2016 second rounder.
02-19-2015, 07:31 PM
HornetGuru

who the hell is latavious williams? lol
02-19-2015, 07:38 PM
MichaelMcNamara

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

who the hell is latavious williams? lol

He is a guy whose 'rights' we will trade in a future deal. You always need to send something out so having rights to some random guy is always useful
02-19-2015, 07:39 PM
Andynola

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who the hell is latavious williams? lol

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02-19-2015, 07:39 PM
HornetGuru

gotcha, thanks
02-19-2015, 07:41 PM
kclaboy504

Me likey likey the Norris Cole pick up ALOT
02-19-2015, 07:47 PM
RUFshreve

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

Cole for salmons is highway robbery

I agree. Dell turned a non-contributor into a backup PG. This is a small, but excellent move by Dell.
02-19-2015, 07:48 PM
JunkHead

I like the Norris Cole deal a lot. Cole has played well for the Heat. I never liked the Heat much, but they're on TV a lot so you get to see their players a decent bit. Plus, even if you don't like him, how can you complain? All we lost was Salmons. At least Cole will get minutes on a regular basis. Before AND after Holiday returns. So it's perfect.
02-19-2015, 07:53 PM
Npliam

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

I hope this threat pushes Jimmer to produce better than he is. Cole>Jimmer, however not by much. If a Jimmer can find his shot Jimmer>Cole.

How is he better? I mean he isn't better offensively Even with Jimmer struggling to hit 3s this year and Jimmer has been pretty good defensively.
02-19-2015, 07:57 PM
Npliam

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Jimmer still on this team? Thank goodness we won't have to see him on the court anymore. . .best part of the Cole trade - nails his butt to the bench.

Haven't you said this with every player the Pels have brought is to replace Jimmer only to have Jimmer out play them? Jimmer can play.
02-19-2015, 07:57 PM
MichaelMcNamara

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Originally Posted by Npliam

How is he better? I mean he isn't better offensively Even with Jimmer struggling to hit 3s this year and Jimmer has been pretty good defensively.

There is another side of the court and Cole is much better on that end. Also, Cole's Assist to TO ratio in the half court is elite per Synergy. Jimmer has literally not done one thing well this year, on either side of the ball.

Factor in experience and intangibles and it truly is a landslide.
02-19-2015, 07:58 PM
Npliam

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Originally Posted by Asteptooslow

How does a seemingly great player like Isaiah Thomas end up on 3 teams so quickly.

He plays selfish basketball and that doesn't lead to winning if you are the point guard.
02-19-2015, 08:00 PM
ramsters60

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

Me likey likey the Norris Cole pick up ALOT

Until he proves his worth here, I'll just have to be content that we didn't give up much to get him....
02-19-2015, 08:02 PM
Npliam

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

There is another side of the court and Cole is much better on that end. Also, Cole's Assist to TO ratio in the half court is elite per Synergy. Jimmer has literally not done one thing well this year, on either side of the ball.

Factor in experience and intangibles and it truly is a landslide.

Better defender, worse on the offensive end.....Yeah, landslide
02-19-2015, 08:02 PM
Asteptooslow

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Originally Posted by Npliam

He plays selfish basketball and that doesn't lead to winning if you are the point guard.

Like a ball pounder? I guess his size is a factor as well.
02-19-2015, 08:03 PM
Npliam

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Originally Posted by Asteptooslow

Like a ball pounder? I guess his size is a factor as well.

Yeah, dribble the ball for 18 seconds and then look for his own shot. He is also a terrible defender.
02-19-2015, 08:04 PM
JunkHead

NEWS: #Pelicans waive Ish Smith - http://t.co/jZznDcz4xb
— New Orleans Pelicans (@PelicansNBA) February 20, 2015

Well there goes Smith.
02-19-2015, 08:07 PM
Asteptooslow

He was Pelicanish

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