Game Thread Pelicans vs Mavs 11/1/14

without Jrue, our guard combined for the grand total of 6 points.

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Originally Posted by UptownFuz504

How is it possible that Ryno s a good offensive rebounder but bad defensive rebounder?

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Ryno plays on the wings or in midrange on offense. Long rebounds are easier for him to grab and he is less likely to be part of the box out scrum.

On defense he is more likely to be near the rim where he is smallish and unathletic for a big. No advantages there.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanned

What guard depth? Gordon is overpaid trash. Monty had to get him back on the court as fast as he could so he could stink it up some more?

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What guard depth considering we have some of the best. Is Gordon overpaid? Yes but it's not like the guy sucks. His contract doesn't for his current ability or his injury history but to act like he is just a liability shows you don't know basketball. You are mad he came in for Jimmer that is just a joke. I love Jimmer as much as anyone but the guy has barely played in the NBA and for our sake he needs to be a minimal rotation guy that can get hot for us. Gordon is very good but you wanna judge off a half or even a game. Like I said worth the contract no? Gordon or Jimmer on the court? Gordon. This was about Jimmer getting blamed by the way in which I said I didn't see he came in did his job and at a break went to the bench.

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Originally Posted by odine

without Jrue, our guard combined for the grand total of 6 points.

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It's more about what they gave up...


Nelson - 6 points
Ellis - 9 points
Barea - 6 points

and about 3 or 4 lobs. Gordon and Tyreke need to step it up on defense.

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Originally Posted by GuardianAngel25

What guard depth considering we have some of the best. Is Gordon overpaid? Yes but it's not like the guy sucks. His contract doesn't for his current ability or his injury history but to act like he is just a liability shows you don't know basketball. You are mad he came in for Jimmer that is just a joke. I love Jimmer as much as anyone but the guy has barely played I'm the NBA and for our sake he needs to be a minimal rotation guy hay can get hot for us. Gordon is very good but you wanna judge off a half or even a game. Like I said woth the contract no? Gordon or Jommer on the court? Gordon. This was about Joer getting blamed by the way in which I said I didn't see he came in did his job and at a break went to the bench.

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Blah blah blah, more bull**** excuses. 17 min of 0 for 5, turnovers and missed defensive assignments. Get him off the damn court.

AD is getting pissed with this team, which i like to see. He needs to get on their lazy ball play in the locker room. Dude is not having it this year. True leader. Too many nice guys on this team

Dang Dallas has won 7 straight against the Pelicans?

This game is weird, the team is playing with no energy (cliché). Defense is terrible, I've seen Rivers jogging around after losing his man, Ryno not even trying to get around a screen, and Gordon is just gets destroyed by screens.

What's going on with Tyreke? He's barely trying to get to the basket and when he does he fumbles it. Gordon's just been terrible. I actually think Jimmer did ok on defense, and Jrue has been the best guard by far.

Mavs are playing good defense, but the Pelicans are just killing themselves on offense. Bad shots, not enough movement, and not hitting open shots.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanned

Blah blah blah, more bull**** excuses. 17 min of 0 for 5, turnovers and missed defensive assignments. Get him off the damn court.

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Haha BS excuses for what? You are making no sense.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanned

Blah blah blah, more bull**** excuses. 17 min of 0 for 5, turnovers and missed defensive assignments. Get him off the damn court.

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Haha BS excuses for what? You are making no sense.

I knew something wasn't right. What happened to David Wesley?

Refs really have taken control of this game in the bad way

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Originally Posted by WhoDatPelican

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That's the scaries thing I've seen all Halloween

Tyreke can't get to the ring when the other team has a shot blocker.
This will happen every time we play a team with a shot blocker.

The Pelicans need to figure out how to be effective against zone defense. The starters will be seeing a lot of zone defense this year and need to do a much better job.

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Originally Posted by Silverfoxx

AD is getting pissed with this team, which i like to see. He needs to get on their lazy ball play in the locker room. Dude is not having it this year. True leader. Too many nice guys on this team

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no joke

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Originally Posted by IamQuailman

Refs really have taken control of this game in the bad way

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Gotta agree about this, they seem as lazy and sloppy as the Pels

My thoughts:

Negatves:

- Salmons needs to be benched permanately. He has done NOTHING but be a liability in two games. Given up points, done nothing offensively.

- Free throws, how is this a problem??

- We have a number of guards that are supposed to be borderline very good at defense yet they keep getting beat by their man, letting their man get past them for offensive boards. Its pathetic.

- Bad mid range jumpers. Tyreke should never be taking that shot unless the clock is up yet he took two of them.

- Get the HECK back on D!! We should never give up a quick score when we make the shot on the other end!

- Too much isolation and early shots in the shot clock that aren't great looks. Outside of setting picks I just see a lot of bad decisions and no logic going on.

- Monty still struggles with time management. A number of times a timeout and then a go-to set play was needed and yet we just let them keep going on their run.

-At this rate Gordon ain't going anywhere. Get used to it.

Positives:

- Jrue is looking better, after a slow start he looks to be on the incline.

- Davis.

Thats really it I guess. This has been a bad game. Very bad.

Playing this veteran team shows how young and raw we really are. There is a very good team under this poor execution and bad discipline I just hope it clicks sooner then later.

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Originally Posted by GuardianAngel25

People need to understand this is game 2 against a damn good veteran team that got even better this off season. We are young and guys are almost all new playing together we will have some early miscues. Positives are the rotations to me. We also are having a lot of bad breaks with the rim on open looks. We will be ok. The Gordon needs to be benched also needs to stop cause this is basketball slow starts happen.

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I can play Devils advocate and say we are the young and hungry team with something to prove like the Thunder were, but of course we are not because we are just playing inefficient and lazy basketball tonight. The Mavs are shooting 55% on OUR floor? Are you kidding me? This team needs more freaking pride.

Eric Gordon has 2 turnovers and a foul in 17 minutes. And he missed 5 shots. Please score or get an assist or something.

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Originally Posted by GuardianAngel25

People need to understand this is game 2 against a damn good veteran team that got even better this off season. We are young and guys are almost all new playing together we will have some early miscues. Positives are the rotations to me. We also are having a lot of bad breaks with the rim on open looks. We will be ok. The Gordon needs to be benched also needs to stop cause this is basketball slow starts happen.

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I can play Devils advocate and say we are the young and hungry team with something to prove like the Thunder were, but of course we are not because we are just playing inefficient and lazy basketball tonight. The Mavs are shooting 55% on OUR floor? Are you kidding me? This team needs more freaking pride.

There isn't anybody in the stands.

Tyreke goes in like a damn running back!

Reke trying to take this back.

Does AD have two fouls or something?

Nice Evans driving and dishing to Asik. And Pelicans create a turnover.

Man, Mavs are real good this year.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

Back to playing the hard hedge on defense. No shock the defense is suffering.

Why are we going back to this terrible system?

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+100000000000

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Does AD have two fouls or something?

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Nah, the game is too fast for him. lol

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

Nah, the game is too fast for him. lol

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the games too fast for my internetzzzz ;0

And AD hits them both.

Gordon really sucks

I'm not at home so I'm going to need a recap of the game after!

AD just set a great pick on Holiday there.

I HATE HEDGING!

AD and Asik need time. They're literally running into each other out there.

AD needs to add the spin move to his repertoire. But one step at a time.

Damn. Had Evans put that one in, he'd be on fire NBA Jam style.

I really hate Reke's game

Pelicans looking better on offense because they're running the floor.

Jrue holiday has lost his shooting touch..

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Originally Posted by ItIsRynosTime

Eric Gordon has 2 turnovers and a foul in 17 minutes. And he missed 5 shots. Please score or get an assist or something.

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I honestly think a lot of it is he has no defined role right now. Just like Evans last year, Monty doesn't know what to do with him.

I think he needs to play the spot up role at 3 to start, get some set plays for him to get some open looks, then stay out with the second unit and become the primary ball handler for a few minutes. Maybe have him play the entire first quarter or something.

Evans took a pull up 3, and yes, he missed. But at least he hit the one before halftime.

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Originally Posted by UptownFuz504

I really hate Reke's game

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He has played like an idiot today. Taking 3's and long 2's at the beginning of the shot clock. Not looking for open shooters.

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Originally Posted by N.O.Bronco

I honestly think a lot of it is he has no defined role right now. Just like Evans last year, Monty doesn't know what to do with him.

I think he needs to play the spot up role at 3 to start, get some set plays for him to get some open looks, then stay out with the second unit and become the primary ball handler for a few minutes. Maybe have him play the entire first quarter or something.

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Yeah, he sucks? Give him more minutes! Awesome idea dude.

Can't believe AD missed two close shots. Da well. We got a foul out of it.

Man DAvis has struggled with put-backs these first two games.

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Originally Posted by N.O.Bronco

I honestly think a lot of it is he has no defined role right now. Just like Evans last year, Monty doesn't know what to do with him.

I think he needs to play the spot up role at 3 to start, get some set plays for him to get some open looks, then stay out with the second unit and become the primary ball handler for a few minutes. Maybe have him play the entire first quarter or something.

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I've said this since game one. Eric needs the ball and this offense just leaves him on the wing. If the object was for him to opt out, this is not going to get it done

Lol I can't believe AD missed that putback but at least he's getting amped off his rebounding. We're still in this. Defense has improved.

He has only taken 8 shots also has 6 rbs and 6 assists.

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Originally Posted by Pelican_Brief

He has only taken 8 shots also has 6 rbs and 6 assists.

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3 rebounds