Pre-season game #3- Pelicans V Wizards

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10-08-2014, 08:16 PM
NOLa.

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Originally Posted by rt0307

sup?

Nothing much brother man. How dem Pels look
10-08-2014, 08:16 PM
DRDJ1

Russiculouss....
10-08-2014, 08:17 PM
504ByrdGang

Russ needs to get pt
10-08-2014, 08:17 PM
DRDJ1

Miller not 3 or D
10-08-2014, 08:18 PM
JimmerTime

Once again, Jimmer is taken out to close the game after playing well.

Odd.
10-08-2014, 08:19 PM
rt0307

Quote:

Originally Posted by NOLa.

Nothing much brother man. How dem Pels look

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Originally Posted by DRDJ1

Russiculouss....

question answered :hihi:
10-08-2014, 08:23 PM
rt0307

big run ongoing by the Wiz... trying to steal this game... they're up 4 now
10-08-2014, 08:24 PM
DRDJ1

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Originally Posted by JimmerTime

Once again, Jimmer is taken out to close the game after playing well.

Odd.

Shame on me for relaxing my guard. Oh and BTW our closing 5 when the season begins and games count will be AD, Jrue, Tyreke, Ryno and Gordon. I don't get you noticed that AD is also on the bench closing out the game. How often will that happen during the regular season?
Not that odd
10-08-2014, 08:25 PM
rt0307

Rivers needs the new Pelican beak in the lane to guide his FT attempts apparently
10-08-2014, 08:29 PM
DRDJ1

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Originally Posted by rt0307

Rivers needs the new Pelican beak in the lane to guide his FT attempts apparently

That is why it was designed that way. Our home FT shooting % will be money by shooting down the beak.
10-08-2014, 08:30 PM
rt0307

Wizards 94 - 89 Pelicans Final
10-08-2014, 08:32 PM
nolaslim213

Team shot 36% from the field... That can't happen.
10-08-2014, 08:33 PM
DRDJ1

Gordon led scoring
10-08-2014, 08:35 PM
DRDJ1

Nest Tuesday against Rockets should be entertaining.
10-08-2014, 08:36 PM
Asteptooslow

I'm not ready to become a fan but Jimmer is the only one to shoot 50% or better the first 3 games. Haven't seen a game to know if he can play enough D for it to matter or not.
10-08-2014, 08:42 PM
DRDJ1

Lot's to like despite loss. Need to take advantage of TO's which we did not. Need to control fouls. Nice to see Ryno, Jrue and Eric healthy. Bench surprises include Jimmer and Babbitt. Austin continues to disappoint and needs to make clutch FT's to matter. Miller not answer. No 3 and no D. Salmons will sit a lot unless he improves. Ask will be huge. Tyreke also. AD will dominate.
10-08-2014, 08:43 PM
Eman5805

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Originally Posted by Asteptooslow

I'm not ready to become a fan but Jimmer is the only one to shoot 50% or better the first 3 games. Haven't seen a game to know if he can play enough D for it to matter or not.

Spoiler warning: He can't.
10-08-2014, 08:44 PM
Asteptooslow

Did you go to the game?
10-08-2014, 08:45 PM
Asteptooslow

It seems like it would be pretty hard to have 9 turnovers...geez wall.
10-08-2014, 08:46 PM
AUSSIE_PELICAN

28 - 3 pointers taken.
I wonder if that is a sign of things to come or just preseason?
10-08-2014, 08:47 PM
Eman5805

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Originally Posted by Asteptooslow

Did you go to the game?

I've seen enough of Jimmer's game to know that defense is something he will always struggle with.

I say he can't, but it kinda is a damning evaluation. His defense can't make up for his world-class shooting ability, I don't believe. But he can still be very, very useful for us. Just can't have him on the floor in clutch situations. Far as I'm concerned, he's a better shooting Brian Roberts.

The problem with Roberts was he was constantly used like he was a PG, due to his size. Both need to be off ball.

I also eagerly await seeing him play becaue I can't listen to basketball on the radio for long. The game is too visual and rapid. Football is different. Things happen slower and commentators can go into depth for each play.
10-08-2014, 08:48 PM
rt0307

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Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN

28 - 3 pointers taken.
I wonder if that is a sign of things to come or just preseason?

right on the average from the previous 2 preseason games... so it's starting to become a trend
10-08-2014, 08:49 PM
DRDJ1

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Spoiler warning: He can't.

Is your voice as good as your posts? Is it as smooth as Jrue. Or Omer? Got to admit Omer sounds a lot like Lurch from the Adam's Family, other wise known as Carel Struycken.
10-08-2014, 08:50 PM
Pelicanned

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Spoiler warning: He can't.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

I've seen enough of Jimmer's game to know that defense is something he will always struggle with.

I say he can't, but it kinda is a damning evaluation. His defense can't make up for his bad offense, I don't believe. But he can still be very, very useful for us. Just can't have him on the floor in clutch situations. Far as I'm concerned, he's a better shooting Brian Roberts.

So you haven't watched him play, you're just regurgitating hearsay. I watched the Hawks game from start to finish, I don't think Jimmer let his man (Schroder) score on him the entire game. In fact he caused a couple deflections and an offensive foul.

I'm sorry, but the bad defense line is getting really, really old.

Edit: You do realize that Jimmer had a better defensive score than both Rivers and Gordon last season right?
10-08-2014, 08:52 PM
Tin_Food

I like Jimmer for a spark off the bench. He could even spell players if they're playing crap, like Rivers or Gordon if they're not shooting well.

Like the idea of hungry guards fighting for minutes, means they'll give you more effort
10-08-2014, 08:52 PM
Asteptooslow

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eman5805

I've seen enough of Jimmer's game to know that defense is something he will always struggle with.

I say he can't, but it kinda is a damning evaluation. His defense can't make up for his world-class shooting ability, I don't believe. But he can still be very, very useful for us. Just can't have him on the floor in clutch situations. Far as I'm concerned, he's a better shooting Brian Roberts.

The problem with Roberts was he was constantly used like he was a PG, due to his size. Both need to be off ball.

I also eagerly await seeing him play becaue I can't listen to basketball on the radio for long. The game is too visual and rapid. Football is different. Things happen slower and commentators can go into depth for each play.

Like kissing your sister.
10-08-2014, 08:54 PM
AUSSIE_PELICAN

Miller played 27 minutes and did NOT get one rebound.
No way he has a future as a SF.
10-08-2014, 08:55 PM
DRDJ1

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Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN

Miller played 27 minutes and did get one rebound.
No way he has a future as a SF.

Also no 3 or D
10-08-2014, 08:56 PM
Kumar

How long until we start Tyreke? Over under 20 games.
10-08-2014, 08:58 PM
NOLa.

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Originally Posted by Kumar

How long until we start Tyreke? Over under 20 games.

Over
10-08-2014, 08:59 PM
Pelicanned

Jimmer is shooting a scorching 54% percent behind the 3-point line and leads the team in shooting percentage and scoring average over 3 games from the -bench-. If he plays better D than my grandmother, there's no excuse for him not playing out there every night at least 15-20 minutes.
10-08-2014, 09:20 PM
504ByrdGang

Russ is going to beat out either Jimmer or Rivers as back up. He can score just as well as Jimmer but plays 10 times the D and can break down the defense. He also know what he's doing on the floor unlike Rivers.
10-08-2014, 09:23 PM
IVAN_NOH

more jimmer, less rivers.Don't know what people expects from austin.
10-08-2014, 09:33 PM
Nola3

Just a friendly reminder that this is preseason y'all. Can we hold off on definitive statements until the games actually count?
10-08-2014, 09:52 PM
Npliam

So has anybody actually seen the games. Jimmers defense was noticeably better that last couple of years both in Sacramento and Chicago.
10-08-2014, 10:35 PM
NDHornet

It's only pre-season, yet the Jimmer fan base has already begun to wreak havoc on our poor team.
10-08-2014, 10:43 PM
luckyman

Put up 88 shots to Washington's 72. Shot 14 more 3s. Went to the free throw line 6 less times.

Bird's eye view they fell in love with the jumper.
10-08-2014, 10:55 PM
Pantazis76

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Originally Posted by luckyman

Put up 88 shots to Washington's 72. Shot 14 more 3s. Went to the free throw line 6 less times.

Bird's eye view they fell in love with the jumper.

Well davis has.
10-08-2014, 11:11 PM
Npliam

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Originally Posted by NDHornet

It's only pre-season, yet the Jimmer fan base has already begun to wreak havoc on our poor team.

What are you talking about?
10-09-2014, 12:33 AM
speedyG

I think its time to trade Jrue since we got Jimmer.
10-09-2014, 12:45 AM
HornetGuru

Some good things

Jrue looked real good
Gordon looked quicker and scoring, also attacking ore and went six of six from the line
Jimmer needs to be our backup SG
Ryno looked great

This team needs to make a trade for a starting small forward, doesnt have to be a good one, just a three and d, someone like sefalosha, pj tucker, etc. Miller and salmons arent gonna cut it. Besides that this team is stacked.
10-09-2014, 03:32 AM
Perth_Hornet

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Originally Posted by JimmerTime

Is Rivers really this bad at shooting? I think he's better than given credit for, but his shooting seems woeful.

All those Youtube clips of him putting in work for nothing :(
10-09-2014, 05:08 AM
Asteptooslow

Quote:

Originally Posted by Npliam

So has anybody actually seen the games. Jimmers defense was noticeably better that last couple of years both in Sacramento and Chicago.

Have you seen the games. Not asking in a mean way.
10-09-2014, 07:08 AM
JJackisangry

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Originally Posted by NDHornet

It's only pre-season, yet the Jimmer fan base has already begun to wreak havoc on our poor team.

Dont you mean RekeHavok (sorry I had too). What I have gathered is preseason doesn't count, Russ Smith is a God (he can do no wrong), Darius Miller should pack his bags now and Jimmer is a great or horrible defender. As for Russ, I feel people are salivating over a good defensive player, but from what I have seen he struggles mightily at times on offense. This leads me to believe Pierre Jackson would have been his evil twin had he been able to play.
10-09-2014, 07:25 AM
Asteptooslow

Do the coach's talk before the game about what they want to get done in these type of games. I mean both coaches kind of let the young guys finish. Or do they just take cues from the other guy?
10-09-2014, 07:35 AM
DroopyDawg

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Originally Posted by JimmerTime

Jimmer can play. Surrounding circumstances, such as coaches and teammates, have hurt his career tremendously up until this point.

He is literally the best shooter in the world, IMO.

Steph Curry says Hi.
10-09-2014, 07:47 AM
DroopyDawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eman5805

I've seen enough of Jimmer's game to know that defense is something he will always struggle with.

I say he can't, but it kinda is a damning evaluation. His defense can't make up for his world-class shooting ability, I don't believe. But he can still be very, very useful for us. Just can't have him on the floor in clutch situations. Far as I'm concerned, he's a better shooting Brian Roberts.

The problem with Roberts was he was constantly used like he was a PG, due to his size. Both need to be off ball.

I also eagerly await seeing him play becaue I can't listen to basketball on the radio for long. The game is too visual and rapid. Football is different. Things happen slower and commentators can go into depth for each play.

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10-09-2014, 09:01 AM
Npliam

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Originally Posted by Asteptooslow

Have you seen the games. Not asking in a mean way.

I haven't seen any pre season games this year. That is kind of why I was asking. I know that the book on Jimmer is that he is a great offensive player and can't play any D. It gets stated over and over and is a major talking point in regards to his play. The thing is, it just hasn't really been the case for the last couple of years. Jimmer is a much better athlete than he is given credit and has the ability to defend adequately. So for all the "Jimmer is great offensively but he can't play any defense" comments that I have read I just wanted to know if any of them were actually from posters who had seen him play in a Pels uniform or if they were comments made by people parroting what they had heard from others.
10-09-2014, 09:48 AM
Hadlowe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Npliam

I haven't seen any pre season games this year. That is kind of why I was asking. I know that the book on Jimmer is that he is a great offensive player and can't play any D. It gets stated over and over and is a major talking point in regards to his play. The thing is, it just hasn't really been the case for the last couple of years. Jimmer is a much better athlete than he is given credit and has the ability to defend adequately. So for all the "Jimmer is great offensively but he can't play any defense" comments that I have read I just wanted to know if any of them were actually from posters who had seen him play in a Pels uniform or if they were comments made by people parroting what they had heard from others.

Hi, Npliam.

I disagree a little regarding athleticism and defense. In terms of the general populace, Jimmer is a great athlete. In terms of NBA point guards, he is below median. He is a better athlete than the old guys like Calderon and Jameer Nelson and some of the big points like Livingston or Greivis Vasquez, but not NBA point guards in general.

Sure, the differences are measured in fractions of seconds and milimeters, but at the NBA level of competition, it is what it is.

Defensively, he improved quite a bit last year working with Malone and Thibs on positioning, rotations and reads. His biggest problem on defense is that he is not nasty enough, doesn't foul hard enough. Since he was drafted, I wanted to see him play defense more like that other BYU alum, Danny Ainge did back in the day. Ainge was great at hitting bigs in the midsection with elbows as he fought through screens. I want to see more of that hard-nosed playbefore I give Jimmer credit for improved defense.
10-09-2014, 09:52 AM
Asteptooslow

I know Coach says he has to play better...but did also, say he is slowly picking up the schemes as well. For now I will assume all things fall in the middle with this guy. Just as long as the other team doesn't run every play at him he should be fine. I think Williams said he could have left Jimmer in to give the team a better chance to win, but wanted to see the young guys. That sounds like a pretty good endorsement.

I really want to see why Rivers isn't shooting well more than if Jimmer's defense is bad. (no offense to Jimmer) I always lean toward length if given a choice, so I would rather see Rivers do well.

I also can't wait to see the starting 5 in winning time.

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