With PG out for the year would it be possible that the PELS send Gordon to PACERS?

Watch him on the court. A lot of times the offense stops with him especially if he hasn't attempted a shot in 2-3 series. He has a "I'm going to get mine" mentality. When he drives and gets bounced around and doesn't score he complains to the ref instead of getting back on D and making a play. It's little things like that that make him such an aggravating player to watch IMO

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People are still upset he chose Phoenix over us a couple years back, and now they're trying to find any excuse in the book to get rid of him.

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Soooo you want to keep him?

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Soooo you want to keep him?

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I do. Too much overreaction to this kid. He still has elite talent. Most of his downfalls have been because our medical staff haven't been able to decipher what's been wrong with him health wise. I believe he can still help this team, more than Tyreke even.

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I do. Too much overreaction to this kid. He still has elite talent. Most of his downfalls have been because our medical staff haven't been able to decipher what's been wrong with him health wise. I believe he can still help this team, more than Tyreke even.

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lol in your eyes what is he elite at? Staying on then bench?

its funny, If he somehow plays well on his next team those guys will be "see, I told you we should of kept him" like it totally negates the nothing he's given us.

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its funny, If he somehow plays well on his next team those guys will be "see, I told you we should of kept him" like it totally negates the nothing he's given us.

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1 year can't justify the 3 terrible years he gave us

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lol in your eyes what is he elite at? Staying on then bench?

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Well, his one on one defense was apparently the best Team USA saw at the last camp he attended. He has incredible abilities to slash to the rim, solid 3 point shooter, incredible athlete.

And all that goes put the door if he cant stay on the court. Plus if he was all that why he didn't make the team?

Gordon is the 3rd most important player on this team behind AD and Holiday. I don't think he's the same player he was when he played for the clippers. He lost a step and he isn't the same on defense. I love it when he plays a great game and we win. Believe me. I wish he could prove us wrong I really do. I would be able to accept keeping him if he 1. Stayed healthy
2. Had a team first mindset
3. Played better defense like he gives a damn.
4. Improved scoring and played like an above average SG with numbers such as 18-19ppg, 3-4apg, 3.5rpg, 1.5spg
5. Treated coach with utmost respect
6. Decrease turnovers improve passing and ball handling
7.recognize AD is the star of this team and is superior to Gordon as a basketball player no doubt.


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Gordon is the 3rd most important player on this team behind AD and Holiday. I don't think he's the same player he was when he played for the clippers. He lost a step and he isn't the same on defense. I love it when he plays a great game and we win. Believe me. I wish he could prove us wrong I really do. I would be able to accept keeping him if he 1. Stayed healthy
2. Had a team first mindset
3. Played better defense like he gives a damn.
4. Improved scoring and played like an above average SG with numbers such as 18-19ppg, 3-4apg, 3.5rpg, 1.5spg
5. Treated coach with utmost respect
6. Decrease turnovers improve passing and ball handling
7.recognize AD is the star of this team and is superior to Gordon as a basketball player no doubt.


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I agree with all of this. I think if he were being paid $8mil a year instead of $15mil a year we'd be able to stomach him more, but once he realizes he's not the alpha dog on this team and plays within his means he could be a good fit. That being said I won't begin to hold on my breath on that.

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Gordon is the 3rd most important player on this team behind AD and Holiday. I don't think he's the same player he was when he played for the clippers. He lost a step and he isn't the same on defense. I love it when he plays a great game and we win. Believe me. I wish he could prove us wrong I really do. I would be able to accept keeping him if he

5. Treated coach with utmost respect



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This is not a true statement. There is no history of disrespect. I have a friend who works/travels with the team that says this disrespect stuff just isn't true.

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I do. Too much overreaction to this kid. He still has elite talent. Most of his downfalls have been because our medical staff haven't been able to decipher what's been wrong with him health wise. I believe he can still help this team, more than Tyreke even.

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So it's all our medical staff's fault for Gordon's problems? He never had injury problems in LA or anything. Ever think maybe, just maybe, the guy is injury prone?

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Well, his one on one defense was apparently the best Team USA saw at the last camp he attended. He has incredible abilities to slash to the rim, solid 3 point shooter, incredible athlete.

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His defense used to be excellent. Watch every game over the past 2 seasons, he went from excellent to poo very fast.

He has played bigger than his size...His body broke down sooner. DRose is similar...but he has more to work with from the start.

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This is not a true statement. There is no history of disrespect. I have a friend who works/travels with the team that says this disrespect stuff just isn't true.

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Yes it is true. It was seen live as he was coming off the court coach was talking to him and Gordon was mouthing off to him and I think he was very disrespectful. He disrespected the pelicans too. No reason to defend him when it's so obvious.


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[QUOTE=RaisingTheBar;1241927]So it's all our medical staff's fault for Gordon's problems? He never had injury problems in LA or anything. Ever think maybe, just maybe, the guy is injury prone?



His defense used to be excellent. Watch every game over the past 2 seasons, he went from excellent to poo very fast.[/QU

Gordon was misdiagnosed by the team's medical and training staff. A Chicago doctor discovered the atrophy not the team's staff. The team considered knee surgery but his medical condition was atrophy not his knee.

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So it's all our medical staff's fault for Gordon's problems? He never had injury problems in LA or anything. Ever think maybe, just maybe, the guy is injury prone?



His defense used to be excellent. Watch every game over the past 2 seasons, he went from excellent to poo very fast.[/QU

Gordon was misdiagnosed by the team's medical and training staff. A Chicago doctor discovered the atrophy not the team's staff. The team considered knee surgery but his medical condition was atrophy not his knee.

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What about the LA doctors? What about when we changed trainers?

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Gordon was misdiagnosed by the team's medical and training staff. A Chicago doctor discovered the atrophy not the team's staff. The team considered knee surgery but his medical condition was atrophy not his knee.

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Are you talking about summer of 12-13? because we suggested surgery for his knee but a chicago doctor advised continued rehab, he went to LA for the rehab, he played 42 games that year

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What about the LA doctors? What about when we changed trainers?

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You proved my point. Players are having surgeries performed by doctors in NYC and LA not NOLA. If you google quad atrophy, you will see it can take over a year to regain strength.

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You proved my point. Players are having surgeries performed by doctors in NYC and LA not NOLA. If you google quad atrophy, you will see it can take over a year to regain strength.

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I'm talking about when he was playing in LA man.

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Amen to that, wining babies!

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Whining. And you don't need to complain about the posters on this board every chance you get.

I'm cautiously optimistic for Gordon this season. Hopefully the rumors that he is finally healthy and has more explosion are true.

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Whining. And you don't need to complain about the posters on this board every chance you get.

I'm cautiously optimistic for Gordon this season. Hopefully the rumors that he is finally healthy and has more explosion are true.

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I don't know if a more explosive Gordon is a good thing. The lesser explosive Gordon is the one that has played more games. I don't know if his body can handle the reckless abandonment he played with when he was with the Clippers. Not to mention that Gordon will require more shots and the way this team is built a nice balance will need to be established to keep everybody involved.

The way his knees have been i think explosiveness is long gone from gordon, for better or worse.

The highflying guy doesn't win much anyway. It wasn't dunk on everyone Jordan who won 6 rings.

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I don't know if a more explosive Gordon is a good thing. The lesser explosive Gordon is the one that has played more games. I don't know if his body can handle the reckless abandonment he played with when he was with the Clippers. Not to mention that Gordon will require more shots and the way this team is built a nice balance will need to be established to keep everybody involved.

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That's valid. I think if he can regain a little bit of that quickness, it would be beneficial. Maybe not the D-Wade style of throwing his body into the paint, but being able to get separation around picks and hitting floaters, that sort of thing.

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That's valid. I think if he can regain a little bit of that quickness, it would be beneficial. Maybe not the D-Wade style of throwing his body into the paint, but being able to get separation around picks and hitting floaters, that sort of thing.

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Hopefully he understands that he has to play different in order to remain healthy. So that's knowing when to go hard and when to pull back.

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I do. Too much overreaction to this kid. He still has elite talent. Most of his downfalls have been because our medical staff haven't been able to decipher what's been wrong with him health wise. I believe he can still help this team, more than Tyreke even.

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There's no evidence for your opinions. He's injury prone and those injuries have slowed him down. He's been a below average player the last two seasons when on the floor and he's on a max contract. He's the definition of a horrible contract.

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I don't know if a more explosive Gordon is a good thing. The lesser explosive Gordon is the one that has played more games. I don't know if his body can handle the reckless abandonment he played with when he was with the Clippers. Not to mention that Gordon will require more shots and the way this team is built a nice balance will need to be established to keep everybody involved.

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Didn't think of that point before. Maybe he can just stay on the court with his less aggressive style of play. Makes him probably a worse overall player in a vacuum but is better overall.

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I'm cautiously optimistic for Gordon this season. Hopefully the rumors that he is finally healthy and has more explosion are true.

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I hope so. The 'old' Gordon...in a potential contract year...who has at least somewhat bought in to the team goals...could be a positive X factor of sorts for us this year.

However, DA Throne bought up a very valid point.

Interesting to see so many Gordon optimists in this thread. Personally, I don't see where the hope is. I was a big fan of his upon coming here. I really liked his style of play, his attitude, and his potential. Maybe our team isn't guilt free in how bad things got messed up for him but I have a hard time seeing what we saw from him and not reaching the conclusion that he hasn't done all he could to help the team. I don't care about him signing with Phoenix either. I just think it is important to look at his career. His first year in LA he was okay. His next two years he went from above average to very good. Then he came here for three seasons. The time we are pining for him to return to existed for 2 of his 6 seasons in the league, 4 years ago. It's been a long time since he was that player. If you want to argue about his play of last season, you can make arguments he was a net positive, but once given the context that he makes $15 a year, and if he goes we can resolve the hole at SF, and given his injury history I think it is clear that him leaving asap is the best scenario.

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Personally, I don't see where the hope is.

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Haha. Youre right. Look at KG.

I just saw a couple of tweets from Marc Stein stating that the Knicks want to move Wayne Ellington and Pablo Prigioni. I wouldn't move them straight up for Gordon, but I wonder if they could be likely trade filler to help facilitate a deal. I know Iman Shumpert is also on the block. Just a thought.

Sorry I don't know how to quote a tweet through this thing yet..

Sorry double post

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I just saw a couple of tweets from Marc Stein stating that the Knicks want to move Wayne Ellington and Pablo Prigioni. I wouldn't move them straight up for Gordon, but I wonder if they could be likely trade filler to help facilitate a deal. I know Iman Shumpert is also on the block. Just a thought.

Sorry I don't know how to quote a tweet through this thing yet..

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Would need to add another 6 mil or so in salary to Prigioni and Ellington. So, basically, JR Smith or Bargnani. No thanks.

Is this what we have become?

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There's no evidence for your opinions. He's injury prone and those injuries have slowed him down. He's been a below average player the last two seasons when on the floor and he's on a max contract. He's the definition of a horrible contract.

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If that is true, then he will be on this team, no matter what. So I am going to cheer for him to as long as he is here.

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I just saw a couple of tweets from Marc Stein stating that the Knicks want to move Wayne Ellington and Pablo Prigioni. I wouldn't move them straight up for Gordon, but I wonder if they could be likely trade filler to help facilitate a deal. I know Iman Shumpert is also on the block. Just a thought.

Sorry I don't know how to quote a tweet through this thing yet..

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In general I think Shump is 9verrated but it's not his fault Knicks fans are crazy. We'll probably hear all about how Julius Randall is the next Karl Malone until he's no longer a Laker. But I would be interested in that trade if I were the Pels if I though EJ would take the player option this next offseason. Thing is, from what we've seen/heard it seems like Dell won't trade Gordon just for a dump but only for assets. Either he is stubborn, really believes in the kid, or has some sneaky plan, who knows, but even in the event that New York calls up and puts that on the table I doubt Dell agrees to it.

Glad somebody said it, this is ridiculous

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Is this what we have become?

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I'm not looking at past production, i'm looking at this stat line from last season:

2013-14 Regular Season 64 32.1 5.6-12.8 .436 1.6-4.0 .391 2.7-3.5 .785 2.6 3.3 0.2 1.2 1.8 2.1 15.4

Not worthy of his salary, but not far off. A few players who didn't produce this stat line got better deals than his this off season. This is a stat line that Austin Rivers will never produce in his nba career. NEVER.

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Austin Rivers Per 36(Starter Minutes) last year:
14.5 PPG
4.3 Ast
3.5 Reb
1.3 Steal
41% FG
36.5 % 3PT(Was top 10 in catch and shoot.)

Rivers also costs 10+ mil less

He's hardly garbage if you paid attention to how well he played in the 2nd half.