2013 Draft Lottery thread

When has a lil' thing like common sense, logic, or truth ever got in the way of the allure of conspiracy?

man I just have this feeling we land a top 3 pick, most likely the 2nd or 3rd pick, wouldnt that be awesome.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

When has a lil' thing like common sense, logic, or truth ever got in the way of the allure of conspiracy?

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Cause that envelope had New York written all over it!!
Lol

http://espn.go.com/nba/lottery2013/mockdraft

Tried this for the 1st time, results:

1. Pelicans - McLemore
2. Wizards - Noel
3. Cavs - Porter
4. Magic - Burke
5. Bobcats - Bennett
6. Suns - Oladipo

Where can i sign?

I ran it 10 times, and here are the results.
Position Player
1 McLemore
1 McLemore
1 McLemore
2 McLemore
5 Bennett
6 Bennett
6 Bennett
6 Burke
6 Burke
6 McCollum

It's important, I think, to note that each time McCollum and Bennett were both available, we picked Bennett.
I've heard good things about McCollum, but not much about Bennett.

What do you guys think?

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Originally Posted by jcollins9

I ran it 10 times, and here are the results.
Position Player
1 McLemore
1 McLemore
1 McLemore
2 McLemore
5 Bennett
6 Bennett
6 Bennett
6 Burke
6 Burke
6 McCollum

It's important, I think, to note that each time McCollum and Bennett were both available, we picked Bennett.
I've heard good things about McCollum, but not much about Bennett.

What do you guys think?

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I've been playing with it a bit myself. I don't get the Bennett pick at all. Furthermore, really don't want. Not so sure about the McCollum pick either, but really don't want Bennett.

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ESPN @NBARumorCentral
Jackson back with Tellem. Copeland wants big payday. Blazers consider moving up, eye Oladipo. Drew to meet with Bucks es.pn/X7jm0R

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Is that a smoke screen or are they really eyeing Oladipo? We heard lots of talk pre-draft last year on how they liked Lillard and actually did go for Lillard.

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Originally Posted by FlyGirl

Is that a smoke screen or are they really eyeing Oladipo? We heard lots of talk pre-draft last year on how they liked Lillard and actually did go for Lillard.

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We seem the most likely to trade out if we dont land our targets. Maybe they would send us some 2nd rounders, or if they are feeling frisky they send us a lotto protected first. Hmm... 2nd rounders are much more likely.

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Originally Posted by FlyGirl

Is that a smoke screen or are they really eyeing Oladipo? We heard lots of talk pre-draft last year on how they liked Lillard and actually did go for Lillard.

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This is when HornetGuru comes up with a trade scenario where we trade our pick and Greivis for Lillard.

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Originally Posted by JJackisangry

We seem the most likely to trade out if we dont land our targets. Maybe they would send us some 2nd rounders, or if they are feeling frisky they send us a lotto protected first. Hmm... 2nd rounders are much more likely.

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I'd ask for Matthews. And of course their first.

http://www.csnnw.com/blog/blazers-ta...g-take-oladipo

Seems like actual interest to me.

They don't really have much to give up if they're really looking to move. Maybe they offer their 2013 and 2014 pick?

I don't love Oladipo, so I'd probably do that to drop back 5 spots. Or I'd take pick #10 and Wesley Matthews.

I'd rather just draft Oladipo.

oladipo is the perfect compliment to lillard

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

oladipo is the perfect compliment to lillard

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No he's not.

Complement, maybe.

Makes sense to me that the Blazers would want Oladipo. They don't need a PG, SF, or PF as they have Lillard, Batum, and Aldridge. They also spent the 11th pick in last year's draft on Meyers Leonard. And because of who they have, their biggest need is probably a defensive stopper next to Batum.

My top 5 for who I'd like us to draft is as follows
1. Ben mclemore
2.trey Burke
3. Otto porter
4.alex Len
5a. Victor oladipo
5b.michael carter Williams

If we don't land top 3 and mclemore, Burke, and porter are gone which I'm sure they will cause the best we can do is 5th at that point. I'd really like to see us figure out a way to move back and get McW and an over seas prospect. There are 4 teams who have multiple 1st rd picks. Interesting to see how it all unfolds.

I would be happy if we are top 5.

I am hoping we could land the number one pick and trade out to get more picks

Number 1 with Cleveland at 3 really wanting Noel would be awesome. We could get their 3 and later pick in the first too.

Anybody know who(Pelicans) the person or player that will be attending in NY Tues? Flygirl got the info? Thanks!

Pretty sure it'll be Monty just like last year. Maybe hoping for some repeat mojo?

Well, it sure didn't work for Cleveland sending the owner's sickly son two years running.

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Originally Posted by Smow-

My Dad firmly believes its rigged; I have a hard time believing you can rig a lottery ball system very effectively and consistently.
As long as the process never becomes computerized, I will see it as legit.

What can you honestly do? Weigh the balls pertaining to the combinations for the team the NBA "wants" to win? That still isn't foolproof.
Design a lotto machine that creats the perfect environment for a set combination to appear? Yea right.

Aliens?? NOW we might be talking.

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i agree with your dad, and ill take it a step further. the league is rigged. the refs dictate way to much. heard of tim donaghy?

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Originally Posted by ScoutWithoutClout

i agree with your dad, and ill take it a step further. the league is rigged. the refs dictate way to much. heard of tim donaghy?

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So you agree with the conspiracy theory but didn't address any of Smow's points? It's way too difficult to rig and there are too many team reps in the room.

Please. In today's age of information if something's rigged its coming out.

I mean, these aren't national security mission, plot thwarting, military secrets going on. It's the NBA lottery. No way they could keep such a tight lid on this if they were deliberately falsifying the process for a desired effect.

For whatever reason I've been having the feeling that we're going to get lucky, get #3 and draft Porter.

I think if we did he would immediately become a crowd favorite. Good kid, great work ethic, gives 100% on every play. People keep saying how he'll be very solid but he'll never be great, but what if he's solid in everything and great in one thing? If it's from the arc, or rebounding, or defense... I'd say that is a great pick.

I get the feeling that the Pelicans are hoping they are lucky with Coach representing the organization. However, they arent hoping this year for a #1 overall, but a pick in the 5-8 range. I think they really want an international player. I feel almost certain they will trade back if they get a top 3 pick. And I feel almost certain they know exactly the player they want. But taking that guy in the top 3 may be too high. Trading back and picking up a second round pick or two may be more appealing and they know they can get their guy.

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

For whatever reason I've been having the feeling that we're going to get lucky, get #3 and draft Porter.

I think if we did he would immediately become a crowd favorite. Good kid, great work ethic, gives 100% on every play. People keep saying how he'll be very solid but he'll never be great, but what if he's solid in everything and great in one thing? If it's from the arc, or rebounding, or defense... I'd say that is a great pick.

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3 is the best possible spot. It is less guaranteed money, and we are guaranteed a target.

I don't see how you don't hope for the #1 pick. You either get your #1 choice or you can trade down for more assets. Hoping for anything less doesn't make any sense to me.

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Originally Posted by donato

I don't see how you don't hope for the #1 pick. You either get your #1 choice or you can trade down for more assets. Hoping for anything less doesn't make any sense to me.

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Don you are bananas if you think we are winning the lottery again. B a n a n a s

Well, Jack, winning it or not I don't understand why people wouldn't want the highest position- hoping for 3rd instead of 1st, etc. I don't subscribe to the "fixed" thought process.

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Originally Posted by donato

I don't see how you don't hope for the #1 pick. You either get your #1 choice or you can trade down for more assets. Hoping for anything less doesn't make any sense to me.

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Exactly. The #1 spot is an asset. Maybe we use it, maybe we trade it, but you always hope for the highest pick possible then sort things out.

You really don't see a lot of trading in the NBA. Teams have so few assets, so few picks are seen as worth it. Unless you ahve teams just trading picks for cash because they're run by a dog and pony owner.

Updated ESPN Lottery mock draft projections. Here are the results from my trying it ten times. The number listed is where we ended up in the lottery and then who they have us taking. Pretty crazy results this time considering how depending upon a team guys moved around more than I have seen in the past:

1st- Otto Porter
8th- Dario Saric
6th- Anthony Bennett
6th- Anthony Bennett
6th- Anthony Bennett
6th- Anthony Bennett
6th- Anthony Bennett
7th- Trey Burke
6th- Otto Porter
2nd- Otto Porter

Chad Ford don't really know who we want. So I'm not even concerned.

Less than 24 hours!!!!

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Originally Posted by jhow0036

Less than 24 hours!!!!

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Originally Posted by donato

Updated ESPN Lottery mock draft projections. Here are the results from my trying it ten times. The number listed is where we ended up in the lottery and then who they have us taking. Pretty crazy results this time considering how depending upon a team guys moved around more than I have seen in the past:

1st- Otto Porter
8th- Dario Saric
6th- Anthony Bennett
6th- Anthony Bennett
6th- Anthony Bennett
6th- Anthony Bennett
6th- Anthony Bennett
7th- Trey Burke
6th- Otto Porter
2nd- Otto Porter

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Yeah according to the machine Porter is top on our list and Mclemore has been going around 5 depending on who wins the lottery.
He just feels like we would draft for need, which i think we will pick Porter unless hes not available.

i think porter is a need and BPA. win, win.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

i think porter is a need and BPA. win, win.

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Certainly debatable on one account, not so much on the other. :D I really do have the feeling we'll get 3 and take Porter.

ditto

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

Certainly debatable on one account, not so much on the other. :D I really do have the feeling we'll get 3 and take Porter.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Please. In today's age of information if something's rigged its coming out.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

I mean, these aren't national security mission, plot thwarting, military secrets going on. It's the NBA lottery. No way they could keep such a tight lid on this if they were deliberately falsifying the process for a desired effect.

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Indeed, I think it's wise to look at the motivation of a so-called conspiracy theory. If NBA officials were ever discovered fixing the ping pong ball extravaganza, they could lose more than fans and money. They could be subject to fraud charges. I have a hard time believing that many people would want to take that risk.

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Originally Posted by Teal Lantern

Indeed, I think it's wise to look at the motivation of a so-called conspiracy theory. If NBA officials were ever discovered fixing the ping pong ball extravaganza, they could lose more than fans and money. They could be subject to fraud charges. I have a hard time believing that many people would want to take that risk.

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Exactly lol...not even worth it..

All i know is for a long time everyone was hoping and wanting for an athletic SF who can do a little bit of everything, especially hit the 3, defend and rebound, like Nicolas Batum or Loul Deng, well he's in this draft and his name is Otto Porter and I think he will be even better than deng or batum. He's the kind of guy that makes little mistakes and makes those around him better. I Hope we land him.

Between the lottery and the xbox reveal it's gonna be an interesting day

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Originally Posted by Kurgan

Between the lottery and the xbox reveal it's gonna be an interesting day

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2 questions:

1. What times the lottery?
2. What xbox reveal?

Ill do the lottery 10 times and see what happens:

1. Otto Porter
5. Ben Mclemore
5. Ben Mclemore
6. Trey Burke
5. Ben Mclemore
1. Otto Porter
6. Anthony Bennett
1. Otto Porter
6. Trey Burke
3. Otto Porter