Porter - Burke - Oladipo?

regardless of how good len is he will climb the boards, he's 7"1, a natural shot blocker and can hit the jumper. if we feel into the 7th or the 8th spot i could see us taking him then addressing PG and SF through FA and trade.

I never been so lost on who would we take. Right now its wide open...however that will change in two weeks

i know i cant freaking wait for the lottery or the draft. i just hope we go BPA, regardless of position, besides PF of course.

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Jonathan Givony ‏@DraftExpress 9 May
Benji Burke tells us via email he will represent his son Trey Burke as his NBA agent.

Jonathan Givony ‏@DraftExpress 23h
Benji Burke tells us he will open up a basketball division of his family's agency, Infinite Sports, which currently specializes in football.

Jeff Goodman ‏@GoodmanCBS 9 May
Trey Burke's father will represent him as NBA agent, but I was told Rich Paul went hard after him -- with LeBron reaching out to Burke.

Jeff Goodman ‏@GoodmanCBS 9 May
I wonder if Burke's father will end up working for one of the bigger agencies, or whether he'll try and represent his son by himself.

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so if we draft Burke and Rich Paul is his agent, Lebron will come to NOLA....


Okay that was my lame attempt at overreacting.

On a serious note:

I never liked the idea of family being your agent.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

so if we draft Burke and Rich Paul is his agent, Lebron will come to NOLA....


Okay that was my lame attempt at overreacting.

On a serious note:

I never liked the idea of family being your agent.

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This is actually quite brilliant. Rookie contracts are paid via the rookie wage scale. All he really need is a lawyer to make sure the contract is up to snuff and lawyer fees are much cheaper than agent fees. Might as well let your dad collect the traditional agent fees for doing the least amount of work early in a player's career. If Benji wants to be a real sports agent and can use his son's chance to springboard his career I have no problems.

Benji wasn't one of those fathers that was pushing his son to go pro asap. Matter fact reports had Trey leaving until Benji and his mom Rhonda convinced him to stay on a car ride from Ann Arbor to Columbus. Nothing that Benji has said or done since Trey immerged on the sense as a potential NBA prospect has been questionable that makes me think he doesn't have his son's best interest at heart.

1. victor olidipo - best defender in college, can drive, shoot the 3, smart hard worker. fits the demps mold.
2. nerlins noel - putting him next to davis wouldn't provide much meat but it would create defensive nightmares
3. trey burke - we need a playmaker like burke, but his defense may not cut it
4. otto porter - seems like a battier type, not really a game changer, but reliable
5. cj mccullom - a true professional, lights out shooter
6. michael carter williams - matchup guy who can triple double
7. jamaal franklin - sleeper
8. alex lenz - athletic big, underperformed but has high ceiling
9. cody zeller - good fundamentals, not a game changer
10. archie goodwin - athletic freak

if archie goodwin can improve his jumper he would be unguardable, he has a little monta ellis/westbrook in him athletically and quickness.

yea he may be a nice surprise in the mid/late 1st

I wish Austin Rivers was able to play the rest of the season. He was starting to get it together, then I could make a better assessment as our future point guard. But as it is, I still have to pick Burke. He is just too good.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

if archie goodwin can improve his jumper he would be unguardable, he has a little monta ellis/westbrook in him athletically and quickness.

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very high on goodwin. not at 1-5, but definitely late lottery/just outside of it if we trade down for some future assets. assuming he pans out as you believe his role might be a little redundant with rivers but i don't see much of a future for gordon here which opens a spot plus if both him + rivers succeed greatly we can just trade one. sounds like a good problem to have.

I'd be pretty happy with any of those three. They are all in my top five. Of them, I'd take Porter first. I like the way he can do just about everything and I think he is going to give you solid production year after year. Plus he plays the position of biggest need for the team. I feel like with him and AD as a young core you have a superstar and a glue guy who are going to be around for a long time and be rocks in their position.

Burke or Oladipo is a tough call. Both can be really good. Burke has shown more. I'm still a little nervous about his size. Oldadipo might be very good. He has a lot of hustle, just isn't very polished yet.

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Originally Posted by Gumbo Jackson

I'd be pretty happy with any of those three. They are all in my top five. Of them, I'd take Porter first. I like the way he can do just about everything and I think he is going to give you solid production year after year. Plus he plays the position of biggest need for the team. I feel like with him and AD as a young core you have a superstar and a glue guy who are going to be around for a long time and be rocks in their position.

Burke or Oladipo is a tough call. Both can be really good. Burke has shown more. I'm still a little nervous about his size. Oldadipo might be very good. He has a lot of hustle, just isn't very polished yet.

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I'm sorry...I just don't get the height problem. There are plenty great players that are 5'9—6'0. Its really not big deal. If that's the big worry about Burke then that's a blessing. Sign me up now.

burke has a 6"5 wingspan so its ok

The pelicans are allegedly interested in Saric which tells me finding a SF is priority #1. If Saric really impresses in team workouts, i wonder who the pelicans would take with Porter off the board. Hell Shroedder might even break the top ten.

Saric is extremely talented, he can score anywhere, he can drive, shoot, and has a post game, he is also an excellent passer and has great size at 6"10, but i think the only way we take him is if we trade down

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

Saric is extremely talented but i think the only way we take him is if we trade down

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That is the reason i came to this conclusion. He was out of our range which told me we were looking at SF prospects first. You never know where his stock may go, but i agree we might need to trade down to snag him. It may just be a smokescreen (shrugs); who really knows?

Are there any contractual obligations keeping him from playing his first year?

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Originally Posted by Official

Are there any contractual obligations keeping him from playing his first year?

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He has an NBA opt out clause which allows him to join the NBA. We would have to buy him out (I'm not sure what the price is... I think 3 mil).

Would he be a euro stash? I think that would allow us some financial flexibility, but we would lose a potentially productive player which is something we desperately need. I could easily see Dell doing this though; he is in no rush to win.

i would just leave him in europe for another year, he's only 18 anyway

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

i would just leave him in europe for another year, he's only 18 anyway

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Are there any solid SF veterans that would take a 1 year contract? That would definately soften the blow a little.

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Originally Posted by JJackisangry

Are there any solid SF veterans that would take a 1 year contract? That would definately soften the blow a little.

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Getting the last year of Caron Butler's deal as part of any trade with Clippers (instead of Jordan), would give us a small forward for a year.

Anybody that is not involved in that horrendous trade... A FA if you will

Wow he is only 18? Wtf dude.....

Anywho...I hear mix reviews of Sacric. I want TB3. A sure thing :)

We are bound to get a good SF next year anyway.

Not to nit-pick, but Saric is 19. Born April 8, 1994.

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Originally Posted by JJackisangry

He has an NBA opt out clause which allows him to join the NBA. We would have to buy him out (I'm not sure what the price is... I think 3 mil).

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NBA rules only allow teams to spend up to $500k on a buyout. Gustavo Ayon's buyout was something like $1.5 million if I remember correctly and he had to foot most of that bill because the Hornets were only allowed to pay 1/3 of it.

His buyout is $1.56M this year.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/5/1...thdraw-lottery

Some of the mock drafts lately have me a little annoyed. I know it's early and this stuff will change, but it's still annoying.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/2013-nba-m...sensus-ver-3-0

The four guys there have us taking Bennet, Len, Muhammad, and Michael Carter Williams (?!). In some cases, Burke or Dipo are on the board. That makes no sense.

But it gets weirder.

http://www.nbadraft.net/2013mock_draft

Again, taking Len while Burke AND Dipo are on the board.

I hope these guys are just morons, and this isn't an indication of what we're actually thinking.

I'll answer this question with a question... Or two.

If you had to chose between Ty Lawson, Tayshaun Prince and Tony Allen/Bruce Bowen (with more offensive potential); who would you pick?

I see a TON of the Detroit Piston years Prince in Porter. He's long and lanky like Prince; and may never lead the league or even his team in scoring but can do a little bit of everything and will make up for what he doesn't give you in scoring with defense and rebounding. He's unselfish and seems to be "team first."

As for Burke; he's not as physical as Lawson, however like the Nugget PG he's a smaller PG (6'0) but has a feel for the game, is a true PG and court general and has the quickness and three point skills that make him an enticing option to be a blue chip level guy. He showed what a clutch player he was capable of being this season for Michigan.

Oladipo's defense, from Day 1, will give him staying power in the NBA. I question if his scoring will ever develop to where he'll be proficient in that option. He certainly has the athleticism and work ethic to continue to grow as a scorer, as evidenced by his improved shooting percentage between his sophomore and junior seasons. However, I still think he has a ways to go yet with ball handling and shooting as a whole.

Second question set:

1) Do you think what we saw from Greivis Vasquez was a sign of things to come? At 26, it's not far fetched to believe that he could be this team's PG for the forseeable future. If this is the case, I'm not so sure the Pelicans would be wise to spend a high lottery pick on a backup PG. Honestly, Burke is too small to play anywhere else, and honestly his skill set would be wasted if they tried to move him to a different position. Could Vasquez make the move to SG or SF? I also feel his ability to dish the rock efficiently as he has makes him too valuable to move from the point.

2) Has the franchise and our fanbase completely soured on Eric Gordon? They got a lot of money invested in him, and while he has had his fair share of injuries, when healthy, you can't deny he is a valuable player to have in the organization.

3) Can Al-Farouq Al-Aminu play PF and be a 25 minute super sub player? Or is he even part of the long term plans of the organization?

Some thoughts and questions to ponder with this pick.

You answered the question with a question :hihi:

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Yeah well.. I prefaced the question by saying I was going to answer a question with a question.

For what it's worth, I voted for Porter.

definetly porter

Guru im sure you've answered this before but what does yiur draft board look like?

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Originally Posted by Bayou Bee

I'll answer this question with a question... Or two.

If you had to chose between Ty Lawson, Tayshaun Prince and Tony Allen/Bruce Bowen (with more offensive potential); who would you pick?

I see a TON of the Detroit Piston years Prince in Porter. He's long and lanky like Prince; and may never lead the league or even his team in scoring but can do a little bit of everything and will make up for what he doesn't give you in scoring with defense and rebounding. He's unselfish and seems to be "team first."

As for Burke; he's not as physical as Lawson, however like the Nugget PG he's a smaller PG (6'0) but has a feel for the game, is a true PG and court general and has the quickness and three point skills that make him an enticing option to be a blue chip level guy. He showed what a clutch player he was capable of being this season for Michigan.

Oladipo's defense, from Day 1, will give him staying power in the NBA. I question if his scoring will ever develop to where he'll be proficient in that option. He certainly has the athleticism and work ethic to continue to grow as a scorer, as evidenced by his improved shooting percentage between his sophomore and junior seasons. However, I still think he has a ways to go yet with ball handling and shooting as a whole.

Second question set:

1) Do you think what we saw from Greivis Vasquez was a sign of things to come? At 26, it's not far fetched to believe that he could be this team's PG for the forseeable future. If this is the case, I'm not so sure the Pelicans would be wise to spend a high lottery pick on a backup PG. Honestly, Burke is too small to play anywhere else, and honestly his skill set would be wasted if they tried to move him to a different position. Could Vasquez make the move to SG or SF? I also feel his ability to dish the rock efficiently as he has makes him too valuable to move from the point.

2) Has the franchise and our fanbase completely soured on Eric Gordon? They got a lot of money invested in him, and while he has had his fair share of injuries, when healthy, you can't deny he is a valuable player to have in the organization.

3) Can Al-Farouq Al-Aminu play PF and be a 25 minute super sub player? Or is he even part of the long term plans of the organization?

Some thoughts and questions to ponder with this pick.

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First Question. Tayshaun so Porter is the guy though if we take I'm hoping for more Pippen.
Second Questions. 1. I for one really hope GV is not our PG of the future. Backup sure.
2.i think the fanbase just needs a reason to believe in Gordon. Playing 75 to 80 games next year will win him some fans surely.
3.Aminu could definitely play PF in a pinch and if we get Porter that's versatility will be useful if he even decides to come back if the draft goes that way.

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Originally Posted by jhow0036

Guru im sure you've answered this before but what does yiur draft board look like?

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my best players available big board or who i like the best for us?

anyways

Porter
Burke
Mclemore
Oladipo
Noel

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Originally Posted by GESWhoseBack

First Question. Tayshaun so Porter is the guy though if we take I'm hoping for more Pippen.
Second Questions. 1. I for one really hope GV is not our PG of the future. Backup sure.
2.i think the fanbase just needs a reason to believe in Gordon. Playing 75 to 80 games next year will win him some fans surely.
3.Aminu could definitely play PF in a pinch and if we get Porter that's versatility will be useful if he even decides to come back if the draft goes that way.

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I think Porter will be a better scoring tayshaun prince.

when he had to be the guy for georgetown he did it, he shot 50% and averaged 18 points 8 rebounds 4 assists during that time period, plus he is a lockdown defender, he's long, can pass, he can do everything.