Melo to the Heat? Big 4 possible?

question for the posters who dont like stars teaming up to win..........can yall name 2 scrubs that were on the starting five on magic,bird and jordan championship teams?.....all 3 of them had HOFers on their team with them so why would they leave or team up lol..........nobody wanted to go to Cleveland so what was lebron to do?.......................if we play our cards right then we may be in that same situation with AD,,,,new orleans aint Cleveland......i guess it would be alright if we do it and win 3 titles....................anyway go spurs.

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Originally Posted by 6warddude

question for the posters who dont like stars teaming up to win..........can yall name 2 scrubs that were on the starting five on magic,bird and jordan championship teams?.....all 3 of them had HOFers on their team with them so why would they leave or team up lol..........nobody wanted to go to Cleveland so what was lebron to do?.......................if we play our cards right then we may be in that same situation with AD,,,,new orleans aint Cleveland......i guess it would be alright if we do it and win 3 titles....................anyway go spurs.

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Kurt Rambis, (A.C. Green and Byron Scott were far from "Greats") / Bill Cartwright, John Paxson, BJ Armstrong, Ron Harper, Luc Longely/Bill Wennington...

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Originally Posted by Pelicantoo

Okay, so where's the non-stats-based argument then? Please back up your Bull----

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Too Easy...

1. Size and Strength at 6'8 250. Unlike any athlete the NBA has ever seen. More on this later.

2. Versatility. Michael was a ball dominant, scoring wing. His game was predicated on getting his and putting the defense in impossible positions and burning them when they over committed. Because of his greatness, teams had to be built specifically around what he did well. LeBron James has a game that resembles some sort of weird hybrid between Magic, Pippen, Bird, Jordan, and Dr. J. and that leads us to his...

3. Flexibility. LeBron because of his unique size and strength could've credibly guarded Barkley, Malone, Kemp, Nance, Mason, Mashburn, Mourning, Horace Grant, Coleman, Vin Baker or any other oversized 3, traditional 4, or undersized 5. Jordan could not and the composition of his championship squads reflect this. Jordan needed role players to fit around his greatness. LeBron's greatness is that it can change depending on his supporting cast.

4. Personality. Michael was relentless. James is accommodating. Michael was demanding. James takes what you can offer. Michael held grudges (read his HOF Speech). LeBron has never had teammate who wasn't his best friend (except Delonte West lol).

AC Green. Now there was a virgin who could play some games injury free.

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Originally Posted by Pelicantoo

Okay, so where's the non-stats-based argument then? Please back up your Bull----

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I gave you your argument. Whether you think it's true or not or even whether I do is irrelevant. I've successfully debunked this "bull----" comment, to borrow a quote from you.

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Originally Posted by DefensiveMind

Too Easy...

1. Size and Strength at 6'8 250. Unlike any athlete the NBA has ever seen. More on this later.

2. Versatility. Michael was a ball dominant, scoring wing. His game was predicated on getting his and putting the defense in impossible positions and burning them when they over committed. Because of his greatness, teams had to be built specifically around what he did well. LeBron James has a game that resembles some sort of weird hybrid between Magic, Pippen, Bird, Jordan, and Dr. J. and that leads us to his...

3. Flexibility. LeBron because of his unique size and strength could've credibly guarded Barkley, Malone, Kemp, Nance, Mason, Mashburn, Mourning, Horace Grant, Coleman, Vin Baker or any other oversized 3, traditional 4, or undersized 5. Jordan could not and the composition of his championship squads reflect this. Jordan needed role players to fit around his greatness. LeBron's greatness is that it can change depending on his supporting cast.

4. Personality. Michael was relentless. James is accommodating. Michael was demanding. James takes what you can offer. Michael held grudges (read his HOF Speech). LeBron has never had teammate who wasn't his best friend (except Delonte West lol).

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Fair enough. This is an argument. Just not a very good one. Do you really believe he's better than Jordan?

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Originally Posted by DefensiveMind

I gave you your argument. Whether you think it's true or not or even whether I do is irrelevant. I've successfully debunked this "bull----" comment, to borrow a quote from you.

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To recap:

Can't compare stats across eras

Please qualify your statements. You believe its a stats based argument. FIFY.

Where's the non-stats based argument? Back up your bull----

Where's the stat's based argument for bird then

Owned

Michael was relentless and Lebron can guard Vin Baker! see I argued!

Yep. You totally win bro.

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Originally Posted by Pelicantoo

To recap:

Can't compare stats across eras

Please qualify your statements. You believe its a stats based argument. FIFY.

Where's the non-stats based argument? Back up your bull----

Where's the stat's based argument for bird then

Owned

Michael was relentless and Lebron can guard Vin Baker! see I argued!

Yep. You totally win bro.

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See this is the problem with forums. You think you "owned" me when i was legitimately asking you a question. Well if that's true, Defensive Mind "owned" you, whatever the hell that means.

He means pwned.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

See this is the problem with forums. You think you "owned" me when i was legitimately asking you a question. Well if that's true, Defensive Mind "owned" you, whatever the hell that means.

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That's actually my fault. I thought I was talking to the same person, so I thought he asked your question, waited for my response, then ignored it when I had a good response and focused on the other side.... So I did answer your question honestly and that wasn't directed at you... I was just confused. Can we still be friends? I have soda.

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Originally Posted by Pelicantoo

That's actually my fault. I thought I was talking to the same person, so I thought he asked your question, waited for my response, then ignored it when I had a good response and focused on the other side.... So I did answer your question honestly and that wasn't directed at you... I was just confused. Can we still be friends? I have soda.

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You've bought my friendship :hihi:

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Originally Posted by Writhe

What does it say? ;)

PS sorry for the bad grammar above

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"Thanks for inviting me today!" lol that's all

Don't think Melo would help the team I'm watching tonight win a championship. Looks like D'Wade, Bosh and Allen are coasting to a 3-1 deficit. Question is why would Lebron stay with this team when he can take his talent to a team that want's to win?

Bring on Melo. That would ensure that the Heat would never win another title.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

You've bought my friendship :hihi:

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Yesss!!! I'm a Dr. Pepper man, but I'm happy to oblige your wish, Fresca? Orange Squirt? Something exotic like Cherokee Red? Except no Diet Mountain Dew.. Cause... Eff Diet Mountain Dew.

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Originally Posted by UptownFuz504

To all the haters saying that LBJ should not have paired up with other stars answer me this. If we take Kobe, MJ, Bird (1 of my fav players ever), or Magic and put them in Cleveland, how many championships would the Cavs have today? I say that they would have same amount as they do now. Zero. All of those guys played with HOFers. Name the HOFers from the LBJ Cavs. I'll wait.

Fwiw, LBJ is better than Bird. I don't even think that it's debatable and Larry Legend was my favorite player in the 80's

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Ironically enough just a week or two ago First Take was having this exact discussion about Bird and LBJ. The conclusion was if you have another sharpshooter on the team you take LBJ. If you don't you take Bird.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Ironically enough just a week or two ago First Take was having this exact discussion about Bird and LBJ. The conclusion was if you have another sharpshooter on the team you take LBJ. If you don't you take Bird.

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I'm guessing that's a Prime Bird vs. Prime LBJ for just a season? If so, that sounds about right.... Man, the old man should've just suited up for the pacers this playoffs.