Andre Iguodala opts out

McGrady said he was afraid to come to NOLA for the All Star game a few years ago because he thought people were regularly getting their throats slit outside of the Arena.

Tracy McGrady was the guy that didn't want to attend the All Star game because it was held in New Orleans. What makes you think he'd want to sign here for cheap?

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Originally Posted by LAedwardo87

Mcgrady is retiring after the Finals btw

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He never said that; he merely said he will consider it. If he has the chance to be a starting small forward, he will accept it. You can tell how badly he wants to be on the court.

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Originally Posted by THRILLHOUSE

McGrady said he was afraid to come to NOLA for the All Star game a few years ago because he thought people were regularly getting their throats slit outside of the Arena.

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Beat me to it.

Not sure if I agree with the 15 million per year, but the leadership and lockerroom part would be invaluable. This video from team USA has a little clip on Iggy with Davis. I would love to see that happening here.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORj4M0OigaQ

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Originally Posted by player_1

Tracy McGrady was the guy that didn't want to attend the All Star game because it was held in New Orleans. What makes you think he'd want to sign here for cheap?

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5 years later....

You can tell how badly he wants to play, and he would get significant playing time here.

What makes you think Iggy will come here?

"I don't think it's the right city right now."

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...ar-new-orleans

6 years ago

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

This is where people always get confused. I am not sold on Saric, I am just telling you who Dell will likely pick. I love CJ McCollum but I find no point in discussing what I want to see happen if it is not possible. Waste of time.

As for Iggy. Yeah, that's a lot of money, but I am comparing it to the alternatives, not just bashing it in a vaccuum. What are the realistic alternatives that are no-brainers? Options that are obviously so much better. I don't see many out there. Give that same money to Tyrke and Martell Webster? Does that really make us that much better? Are we contenders then?

We can talk about any free agent and list numerous reasons why we shouldn't sign them, because there are no perfect targets available, but this is all about A vs. B vs. C vs. D and I don't see better alternatives that are realistic.

*Cue the "Let's trade for Cousins or Monroe even though they are not available" alternative.

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Don't want to waste time on far-fetched hypos either, and you know the market better than I do. But I thought the governing philosophy for the franchise at this point was to build with young vets and "fallen angels" who have some experience, might be ready to take a big step forward, and come at the right price, not cap-killing vets. If there really are no young vets that fit the bill, then I say stay patient, keep your powder dry, and wait for the right deal to present itself down the line. Don't reach and over pay.

Throw out a name at SF: Chase Budinger. Young vet, can score and should come at a reasonable price. Understand he might not do much for our perimeter defense, but we also need some dudes who can put the ball in the hoop, no?

McGrady--no way, no how.

Because money talks and AI hasn't bad mouthed New Orleans yet. At least not in public.

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Originally Posted by Kumar

Not sure if I agree with the 15 million per year, but the leadership and lockerroom part would be invaluable. This video from team USA has a little clip on Iggy with Davis. I would love to see that happening here.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORj4M0OigaQ

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Not much of a display of leadership to be making fun of missed shots. I know it's not a big deal, but this video doesn't display his leadership.

Monty wants to build a team on defense so I doubt Budinger would be a viable option.

He's not going to put this team over the top... he'll cap us out and at his age i dont think it's worth it

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Originally Posted by jsl05

Not much of a display of leadership to be making fun of missed shots. I know it's not a big deal, but this video doesn't display his leadership.

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Not leadership, but more interactions and chemistry. They seemed to be having a good time.

A player who is pretty much a non-factor on offense, who relies almost only on his athleticism on everything else and is hitting 30? Giving the MAX to iguodala? Good lord i certainly hope not. I'd like to have him but for far, far less

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Originally Posted by new city champ

Don't want to waste time on far-fetched hypos either, and you know the market better than I do. But I thought the governing philosophy for the franchise at this point was to build with young vets and "fallen angels" who have some experience, might be ready to take a big step forward, and come at the right price, not cap-killing vets. If there really are no young vets that fit the bill, then I say stay patient, keep your powder dry, and wait for the right deal to present itself down the line. Don't reach and over pay.

Throw out a name at SF: Chase Budinger. Young vet, can score and should come at a reasonable price. Understand he might not do much for our perimeter defense, but we also need some dudes who can put the ball in the hoop, no?

McGrady--no way, no how.

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There are already tons of young vets on this team, thought - Gordon, Anderson, Lopez, Vasquez, Smith, etc. You bring in another Tyreke Evans or Martell Webster or Corey Brewer, and that is nice and all in theory, but who is the leader of that team? Who do the guys look to after a three game losing streak? Who plays the role of buffer between Monty's wrath and the young players?

All that stuff really matters. One day AD will have to be that guy, but how is he going to learn to be that guy without a role model to draw from? Again, I dont think the Pelicans have a chance at being a contender in AD's first contract, and some probably disagree with that. I think these next 3-4 years are about his growth, in multiple areas. He will grow by playing in important games and by being in a culture that expects to win and hates to lose.

Those things will be important in year 6 or 7 when he is a top 3 player in the league, and Iggy will be well off the books by then.

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There are already tons of young vets on this team, thought - Gordon, Anderson, Lopez, Vasquez, Smith, etc. You bring in another Tyreke Evans or Martell Webster or Corey Brewer, and that is nice and all in theory, but who is the leader of that team? Who do the guys look to after a three game losing streak? Who plays the role of buffer between Monty's wrath and the young players?

All that stuff really matters. One day AD will have to be that guy, but how is he going to learn to be that guy without a role model to draw from? Again, I dont think the Pelicans have a chance at being a contender in AD's first contract, and some probably disagree with that. I think these next 3-4 years are about his growth, in multiple areas. He will grow by playing in important games and by being in a culture that expects to win and hates to lose.

Those things will be important in year 6 or 7 when he is a top 3 player in the league, and Iggy will be well off the books by then.

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Who was Houston's leader? OKC's?

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Originally Posted by new city champ

Throw out a name at SF: Chase Budinger. Young vet, can score and should come at a reasonable price. Understand he might not do much for our perimeter defense, but we also need some dudes who can put the ball in the hoop, no?

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Players often say things like this before there's actually money and competing offers on the line, but Budinger said if Adelman returns he's a lot more likely to return and the indications are that Adelman is returning.

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Originally Posted by jsl05

Who was Houston's leader? OKC's?

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And isn't Houston looking for that guy this year to make them a real contender?

As for OKC, I think they are the worst thing that happened to fans of a rebuilding teams. They think OKC is the norm. They drafted stud after stud in fairly strong drafts. Jumped up twice in the lottery, got really lucky. Ten times more often than not, their strategy leads to becoming the Sacramento Kings, but it worked once and now every fan base points to that route as the way to go.

There is no Westbrook or Harden in this draft. Heck, there might not be more than 1 or 2 Ibaka's. Can't go that route IMO. And even if we could, Dell has made it clear he doesn't want to, despite what we all might want.

Iggy's stats don't show the true overall impact he has on the game.

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And isn't Houston looking for that guy this year to make them a real contender?

As for OKC, I think they are the worst thing that happened to fans of a rebuilding teams. They think OKC is the norm. They drafted stud after stud in fairly strong drafts. Jumped up twice in the lottery, got really lucky. Ten times more often than not, their strategy leads to becoming the Sacramento Kings, but it worked once and now every fan base points to that route as the way to go.

There is no Westbrook or Harden in this draft. Heck, there might not be more than 1 or 2 Ibaka's. Can't go that route IMO. And even if we could, Dell has made it clear he doesn't want to, despite what we all might want.

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Dwight Howard isn't exactly a leader. Plus, they just made the playoffs this year. We haven't gotten to that point yet. I'd rather save the space, allow internal improvement, and pick up our Iguodala-type player when we are ready to compete like Houston.

Still OKC didn't really have a "leader." We have Davis, Gordon, Rivers, and Anderson. We aren't as talented, but our guys are older. If the young guys in OKC didn't need a leader, then the older guys in NO shouldn't need a $15 million "leader."

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Dwight Howard isn't exactly a leader. Plus, they just made the playoffs this year. We haven't gotten to that point yet. I'd rather save the space, allow internal improvement, and pick up our Iguodala-type player when we are ready to compete like Houston.

Still OKC didn't really have a "leader." We have Davis, Gordon, Rivers, and Anderson. We aren't as talented, but our guys are older. If the young guys in OKC didn't need a leader, then the older guys in NO shouldn't need a $15 million "leader."

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Rivers isn't good... He may become good in the future but as of right now he is not...

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Originally Posted by wuggie

Iggy's stats don't show the true overall impact he has on the game.

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what does then?
you have to quantify his "impact" in some manner

the easy way is wins...
denver got better, philly got worse
but...was it iggy?

now here's a didyaknow:
iguodala's WS and WS/48 last year were career lows, by far

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Rivers isn't good... He may become good in the future but as of right now he is not...

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I did say we aren't as talented, but he's still older than Durant, Westbrook... were

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Originally Posted by cgrand

what does then?
you have to quantify his "impact" in some manner

the easy way is wins...
denver got better, philly got worse
but...was it iggy?

now here's a didyaknow:
iguodala's WS and WS/48 last year were career lows, by far

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Isn't that expected when you go to an established team with a new role?

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Originally Posted by cgrand

what does then?
you have to quantify his "impact" in some manner

the easy way is wins...
denver got better, philly got worse
but...was it iggy?

now here's a didyaknow:
iguodala's WS and WS/48 last year were career lows, by far

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Geesh. His defense and intangibles, that's what I meant lol