[S5] Weeks 9-10 Results

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Originally Posted by AD23forMVP

Probably over a million times lol

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I don't remember it once and i frequent these board as much as anyone. I'm sure it's been said and i believe you guys but it's not like it's common knowledge. I know that Quail didn't know, Traywithana who hasn't always been active, and myself didn't know.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Not really according to the basketball principles i know. You run a faster pace with a lot of scorers. I have 2 scorers hence why i want them to take the lion's share of the shots. Faster pace and get Wallace, J Will, and Marshall more shots? I dunno, doesnt seem to be a good gameplan imo.

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Not fast. Faster. Just Faster than you do now. I wouldn't want Iverson or Dirk sitting around in a Half court offensive or defensive set for 23 out of every 24 seconds. Iverson or Dirk just aren't nor have ever been half court slow paced players. Wallace, IMHO, would be just as good in a faster pace.

My team sucks, but when the game is slowed down and we are allowed to get into our defensive sets we can keep the game closer. Kenyon had 10 blocks and 21 rebounds. We held your team to 29.5% shooting. And 7 fewer FGA. There is no way that happens if the pace is picked up.

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Originally Posted by AD23forMVP

I openly discussed the fact that the handle rating are made up of handling, quickness, and passing ratings probably not even a week ago.

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You did not discuss however, that we could get all of those ratings.

how about we dont let anyone(except the commish) get access to this numerical values, seems more fair, and less work for the commish.

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Originally Posted by janjanjanjan3

how about we dont let anyone(except the commish) get access to this numerical values, seems more fair, and less work for the commish.

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The Commish has a historically good team. Why would him being the only one to see rating be fair though?

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Originally Posted by janjanjanjan3

how about we dont let anyone(except the commish) get access to this numerical values, seems more fair, and less work for the commish.

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I don't mind the work.

It's when people start PMing me for EVERY rating that the work gets to large though. I personally couldn't tell you the jump rating or strength rating of any of my players. That sort of thing.

But if someone PM's me and asks "can I get the jump shot, perimeter defense, and drive defense rating for so and so" then I'm more than happy to get that for them.

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Originally Posted by janjanjanjan3

how about we dont let anyone(except the commish) get access to this numerical values, seems more fair, and less work for the commish.

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That would be good in theory but considering the commish's record, someone somewhere would always look at that and bring it up as some kind of conspiracy. I think everyone should be able to see theirs. Start a new thread. And if you want your ratings, request them in the thread. That way commish won't have to waste his time getting that info for teams who don't ask for it. I think this would solve this little problem.

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Originally Posted by AD23forMVP

I don't mind the work.

It's when people start PMing me for EVERY rating that the work gets to large though. I personally couldn't tell you the jump rating or strength rating of any of my players. That sort of thing.

But if someone PM's me and asks "can I get the jump shot, perimeter defense, and drive defense rating for so and so" then I'm more than happy to get that for them.

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Overall, Offensive, and Defensive rating should be standard for all players. Shouldn't even be debatable.

I'm not always active, but I do my legwork based on the statistical values that are available on the index. It's not in the instruction manual that these numbers are available. I'm sure a lot of people would have done their max money deals differently had they known that a guy wasn't the letter rating on the only thing we have as reference.

I based my gameplan this season solely on the ratings and its helped. I don't beat the good teams but I beat the teams I should beat consistently.

I dunno man, i think it'll be a lot of work, like right now im itching to ask you almost all the stats of Vujacic and Hart to see who should I start over the other. Also the stats of my 3 big men Baker, White and Wilcox, being in the lower half of the league in BPG i would want to know how they fare against each other defensively.

thats just for my team. now imagine 27 other teams asking you for those kind of rating every after sim day when they tinker with their lineup.

AND were not yet in the playoffs, I'd also be asking you about the ratings of the players in my series for matchup problems. I put Kobe at SF last playoffs thinking he'll be able to stop Lebron and Jamison because he has an A+ defense.

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The Commish has a historically good team. Why would him being the only one to see rating be fair though?

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because we cant do anything about it, he can look at them anyway even if we forbid him not to(not accusing here, no offense commish), we just have to live with that

AD is there any way these numbers could be viewed in the same way we see all the letter ratings? I'm assuming if there was you would have done it already. But I think all the ratings are important for every player. Defense ratings are of course very important at every position. Handling ratings are important as well. That would give the GM a better way to know if their team would be suited for a fast pace or not. And shooting of course and so on.

All the ratings are just as important as the next when trying to fix problems and make adjustments.

It's not just the letter rating. I've stated every time that training comes up that each letter rating is made up of a few different numerical values. That player may be great in one aspect but completely suck in another.

In complete honesty, I've only used it once. That was when training Nazr Mohammed. (That worked out crappy). I prefer to let my very amateur advanced stats tell me what I need to know. Btw, I really wish the index would notate defensive and offensive rebounds.

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Originally Posted by chadanthony2001

AD is there any way these numbers could be viewed in the same way we see all the letter ratings? I'm assuming if there was you would have done it already. But I think all the ratings are important for every player. Defense ratings are of course very important at every position. Handling ratings are important as well. That would give the GM a better way to know if their team would be suited for a fast pace or not. And shooting of course and so on.

All the ratings are just as important as the next when trying to fix problems and make adjustments.

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I give the letter ratings numerical value and just go from there. This is the first season I've done it and its helped me a lot with my drafting and game planning.

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Originally Posted by Soundwave

It's not just the letter rating. I've stated every time that training comes up that each letter rating is made up of a few different numerical values. That player may be great in one aspect but completely suck in another.

In complete honesty, I've only used it once. That was when training Nazr Mohammed. (That worked out crappy). I prefer to let my very amateur advanced stats tell me what I need to know. Btw, I really wish the index would notate defensive and offensive rebounds.

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Everyone knows its not just a letter. What everyone doesn't know is that the rating are free to be told.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Yeah but do the Celts and Grizz GM "take advantage as well?



I'm not blaming anyone here. I just want a level playing field.

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Nope, I've only been told that my numbers when I upgraded EB were close to maybe bumping up to the next letter and another upgrade or training camp should get it up, but no specifics. Sorry to disappoint Hollywood ;)

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Originally Posted by chadanthony2001

AD is there any way these numbers could be viewed in the same way we see all the letter ratings? I'm assuming if there was you would have done it already. But I think all the ratings are important for every player. Defense ratings are of course very important at every position. Handling ratings are important as well. That would give the GM a better way to know if their team would be suited for a fast pace or not. And shooting of course and so on.

All the ratings are just as important as the next when trying to fix problems and make adjustments.

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Nah there's not.

But this is what I'm looking at:

http://www.sportzin.com/forums/uploa...255-U10500.jpg

Also with the free trainings of the rookies with B and A rating available, you'll get around 30 more PMs asking for these rookie's stats

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Originally Posted by Soundwave

It's not just the letter rating. I've stated every time that training comes up that each letter rating is made up of a few different numerical values. That player may be great in one aspect but completely suck in another.

In complete honesty, I've only used it once. That was when training Nazr Mohammed. (That worked out crappy). I prefer to let my very amateur advanced stats tell me what I need to know. Btw, I really wish the index would notate defensive and offensive rebounds.

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I trained Etan's defensive rebounding after training camp and before the season started and his rebounding rating went from C+ to B- and it's made a big difference for him so far.

Anyway, just beating a dead horse here, done now. :deadhorse

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Originally Posted by AD23forMVP

Nah there's not.

But this is what I'm looking at:

http://www.sportzin.com/forums/uploa...255-U10500.jpg

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Can I get mine too?

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Originally Posted by LoCo89

Nope, I've only been told that my numbers when I upgraded EB were close to maybe bumping up to the next letter and another upgrade or training camp should get it up, but no specifics. Sorry to disappoint Hollywood ;)

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I just needed an excuse for you to have a better record than me :hihi:

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Originally Posted by Pelicans78

I give the letter ratings numerical value and just go from there. This is the first season I've done it and its helped me a lot with my drafting and game planning.

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How do you "give" your letter ratings numerical value? Your saying without knowing the real numerical ratings that make up these letters you give yours random numerical values? And how has that helped you?

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Originally Posted by AD23forMVP

Nah there's not.

But this is what I'm looking at:

http://www.sportzin.com/forums/uploa...255-U10500.jpg

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Would anyone be against AD screencapping each roster and posting it in a thread?

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Originally Posted by Pelicans78

I trained Etan's defensive rebounding after training camp and before the season started and his rebounding rating went from C+ to B- and it's made a big difference for him so far.

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Mohammed is no longer a Raptor, so I spent the money on nothing. He improved slightly, but had so far to go that it barely made a dent. Training a player's worst attribute is not always the correct answer.