Game Thread: Lakers @ Hornets

This thread is unhealthy.

It's this simple. We are not good. We have never been good all season. Monty Williams is working with puppies. In crunch time, he likes to play his experienced 25 year olds over his 19 year old.

Not saying I agree with it, but we're really jumping the gun. This season is a crapshoot. If he's lost 40 already and kept his job, I'd say its pretty secure for the next year. This is a rebuild

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Originally Posted by Miss_318

One thing I just realized......I think Monty has gotten exposed coaching. Think about it. His first yr he had CP3 as a PG. He didn't have to learn how to put guys in the best position to win because Chris did that all by himself on the floor. Now that he doesn't have a PG with that kind of BBall IQ he is totally lost when making adjustments....

If CP3 was running point for this team at least 50% of the losses we have would be wins. He's going to have to realize he can't rely on any of these guys to make these critical decisions at the end of games. No top 5 PG exposes his lack of offensive IQ.

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Great post Hunny. This may be true, however i think Monty should not lose his job just yet. This lost sucks!! But lets not forget what makes Monty a respected coach.

You guys act like they are great coaches left hanging around that can make us a better team. They aren't. What..... Avery Johnson?? Foh

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Originally Posted by Alg_Hornet

You consider Jarret Jack, Okafor , Ariza, D. West a band of misfits? Lol

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Oh you talking about david west who was out because he blew out his knee? Oak who couldn't defend anyone thicker than he was? Ariza who plays good defense, can't shoot for anything or create his own shot? Jack who was backup to Paul? Yes. I'm talking about them. Because Ariza, Okafor, and Jack are going to lead you to a championship....

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

"In the clutch" stat by NBA.com

http://www.nba.com/advancedstats/pla...splitValue=all

Inn crunch time Vasquez's plays drops off a cliff.

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And there you have it....double doubles and assists per game don't mean **** when you can't win the game plain and simple. If you've truly improved....then you would actually be winning these game no?

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Originally Posted by Deuce06

Oh you talking about david west who was out because he blew out his knee? Oak who couldn't defend anyone thicker than he was? Ariza who plays good defense, can't shoot for anything or create his own shot? Jack who was backup to Paul? Yes. I'm talking about them. Because Ariza, Okafor, and Jack are going to lead you to a championship....

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I think we won 48 games that year .. None of those wins had anything to do with Monty . Paul & West carried that team

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Originally Posted by Miss_318

And there you have it....double doubles and assists per game don't mean **** when you can't win the game plain and simple. If you've truly improved....then you would actually be winning these game no?

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Lol that is stupid. Just because his clutch stat which is highly objective is low doesnt mean that the numbers he puts up in non clutch time whenever that might be are meaningless

What's telling is that when a team has a dynamic superstar like kobe, fans come out to watch. Man, the crowd looked packed from the tv. I went to a game over the holidays and it was half empty.

We need a star, someone athletic that will put fans in the seats. Has to be Smart

Better we find out now. This will all get addressed in the offseason. I'm certain of it. Though nothing would stop Benson from making a move now if he really wants to.

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Originally Posted by lsutigers33

What's telling is that when a team has a dynamic superstar like kobe, fans come out to watch. Man, the crowd looked packed from the tv. I went to a game over the holidays and it was half empty.

We need a star, someone athletic that will put fans in the seats. Has to be Smart

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Someone like...Anthony Davis

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Originally Posted by iNolaNightmare

This thread is unhealthy.

It's this simple. We are not good. We have never been good all season. Monty Williams is working with puppies. In crunch time, he likes to play his experienced 25 year olds over his 19 year old.

Not saying I agree with it, but we're really jumping the gun. This season is a crapshoot. If he's lost 40 already and kept his job, I'd say its pretty secure for the next year. This is a rebuild

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my issue is that we were doing the same thing last season... and we could see that... as a team... we were getting better... we saw the fight and intensity every game... it was fun to watch even though they were losing

I don't see that w/ this year's team... esp. when we have 3 totally disturbing losses... that last second collapse to the Mavs and the last 2 games where we blew 20+ point leads (all 3 at home mind you... where none of that should happen)

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Originally Posted by Deuce06

Oh you talking about david west who was out because he blew out his knee? Oak who couldn't defend anyone thicker than he was? Ariza who plays good defense, can't shoot for anything or create his own shot? Jack who was backup to Paul? Yes. I'm talking about them. Because Ariza, Okafor, and Jack are going to lead you to a championship....

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You have no clue what you're talking about. West played most of the season, Okafor and Ariza were elite team defenders, CP3 is a top 5 player in this league and the western conference was weak that season. They won 46 games which was barely above most people's projection of 45. He probably cost them a few more wins by not making Thornton the full time 6th man and only playing Aaron Gray half the season even though he's much better than Mbenga. Come with some facts next time so you don't look so clueless.

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Originally Posted by TeamReimold

Lol that is stupid. Just because his clutch stat which is highly objective is low doesnt mean that the numbers he puts up in non clutch time whenever that might be are meaningless

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You asked for the stats and now you're saying its meaningless.

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Originally Posted by iNolaNightmare

This thread is unhealthy.

It's this simple. We are not good. We have never been good all season. Monty Williams is working with puppies. In crunch time, he likes to play his experienced 25 year olds over his 19 year old.

Not saying I agree with it, but we're really jumping the gun. This season is a crapshoot. If he's lost 40 already and kept his job, I'd say its pretty secure for the next year. This is a rebuild

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This is EXACTLY how I feel man. Everyone is jumping off the ledge.

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Originally Posted by djpaul89

In a sense, no he wasn't the problem. It wasn't his choice to play the entire 4th quarter and get torched on the pick and roll.

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You leave a fat guy at Golden Corral and eventually he will get tired of eating.

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Originally Posted by iNolaNightmare

This thread is unhealthy.

It's this simple. We are not good. We have never been good all season. Monty Williams is working with puppies. In crunch time, he likes to play his experienced 25 year olds over his 19 year old.

Not saying I agree with it, but we're really jumping the gun. This season is a crapshoot. If he's lost 40 already and kept his job, I'd say its pretty secure for the next year. This is a rebuild

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Can you share with us whatever it is you are smoking!

Monty said Davis didn't play because he wouldn't match him up against Dwight.

But Davis was never matched up against him when he actually did play. Put him in at the 4 and let him rotate on defense- just like he was doing the first three quarters. Why change your game plan that was actually working????

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Originally Posted by lsutigers33

What's telling is that when a team has a dynamic superstar like kobe, fans come out to watch. Man, the crowd looked packed from the tv. I went to a game over the holidays and it was half empty.

We need a star, someone athletic that will put fans in the seats. Has to be Smart

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Davis is supposed to be that guy. He can't be that guy this year though because, well, he just doesn't get the time. He has to 'develop'. :rolleyes: If they don't care about the #1 pick that won an NCAA Championship in their own backyard they probably won't care about Smart.

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Originally Posted by TeamReimold

Lol that is stupid. Just because his clutch stat which is highly objective is low doesnt mean that the numbers he puts up in non clutch time whenever that might be are meaningless

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I believe these "made up stats" are taken from the last two minutes of each half. If you can't see his drop in play in "crunch time" you truly are a blind Vasquez fanboy, and that's okay, but don't expect to sway many people here. We've watched too many Hornets games to be convinced vasquez is taking this team to the Finals.

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Originally Posted by TeamReimold

Lol that is stupid. Just because his clutch stat which is highly objective is low doesnt mean that the numbers he puts up in non clutch time whenever that might be are meaningless

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So u asked for numbers to prove what they were saying. Now they r stupid cause u look stupid now??

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Originally Posted by lsutigers33

What's telling is that when a team has a dynamic superstar like kobe, fans come out to watch. Man, the crowd looked packed from the tv. I went to a game over the holidays and it was half empty.

We need a star, someone athletic that will put fans in the seats. Has to be Smart

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Anthony Davis is that guy.

He's already an icon. Whether you believe that or not, here's an example:

I have a friend who does not follow sports AT ALL. And the other day, knowing I'm a huge fan, he tells me "Hey I didn't know unibrow guy played for the Hornets! That's crazy man. That guy is good."

AD is a pretty big deal.

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Originally Posted by BuzzmanD

Can you share with us whatever it is you are smoking!

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Can you share your logic on that dumb remark?

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Originally Posted by Deuce06

This is EXACTLY how I feel man. Everyone is jumping off the ledge.

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this loss felt like the Saints blowing a 4 TD lead to the Falcons in the Dome... I would stay alone in my bedroom in the dark for a solid week... this loss was very bad for my (and from what I'm reading... a lot of people here) psyche.

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Originally Posted by iNolaNightmare

Anthony Davis is that guy.

He's already an icon. Whether you believe that or not, here's an example:

I have a friend who does not follow sports AT ALL. And the other day, knowing I'm a huge fan, he tells me "Hey I didn't know unibrow guy played for the Hornets! That's crazy man. That guy is good."

AD is a pretty big deal.

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Dude played on the National Championship team, was the #1 pick, and won Olympic gold all in the same year. Hell yes, even regular joe blows know who Anthony Davis. He's sniper elite as a celebrity already.

AD is a pretty big towel boy. Sitting on the bench.

I seriously don't know how AD will want to play for Monty. If I was the number 1 pick (and better than 80% of the team) I better be playing in the 4th quarter.