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07-06-2017, 01:02 PM
rt0307

ClIps, Dubs, Hawks, Sixers, Pacers among teams on trail of Miami C Willie Reed (5.3 ppg, 4.7 rpg in 71 games last yr). Heat still in mix.
— David Aldridge (@daldridgetnt) July 6, 2017
07-06-2017, 01:08 PM
rt0307

For 40th pick, Charlotte's Dwayne Bacon had remarkable day: 29 points in SL win, agrees to 3-year deal, 2-guaranteed. Making real impression
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 6, 2017

the guy the Pelicans drafted for the Hornets after the draft night trade was agreed upon
07-06-2017, 01:21 PM
Topdawg26

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Originally Posted by rt0307

For 40th pick, Charlotte's Dwayne Bacon had remarkable day: 29 points in SL win, agrees to 3-year deal, 2-guaranteed. Making real impression
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 6, 2017

the guy the Pelicans drafted for the Hornets after the draft night trade was agreed upon

I forgot but someone on this board was crazy about that guy during the draft.
07-06-2017, 01:40 PM
rt0307

Euro star point guard Milo Teodosic has agreed to a two-year, $12.3M deal with the Los Angeles Clippers, league sources tell ESPN.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 6, 2017

Deal includes a player option on second year, sources tell ESPN. https://t.co/QSukVepkTS
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 6, 2017
07-06-2017, 01:42 PM
PELICANSFAN

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Originally Posted by rt0307

Euro star point guard Milo Teodosic has agreed to a two-year, $12.3M deal with the Los Angeles Clippers, league sources tell ESPN.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 6, 2017

Wow, that's less than I thought he would get. Good deal for Clippers.
07-06-2017, 01:45 PM
rt0307

Source says Hayward headed to Boston - press conference expected in next 2 days. Says Crowder S&T with Utah close, other details unclear.
— Mark Murphy (@Murf56) July 6, 2017

Boston Herald writer
07-06-2017, 02:05 PM
PolishFan

It would be great if we could get Bradley from C's. I would prefer him over Crowder. I think Hill is undervalued on this forum and IMO he is a solid starter due to his defense and playmaking. Looking at Roberson Hill's contract is not as bad as people make it to be. Boogie, AD, Hill, Bradley and Jrue starting five would be awesome defesively and there would be enough playmaking skills to make it interesting.
07-06-2017, 02:38 PM
lsutigers33

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Originally Posted by rt0307

Source says Hayward headed to Boston - press conference expected in next 2 days. Says Crowder S&T with Utah close, other details unclear.
— Mark Murphy (@Murf56) July 6, 2017

Boston Herald writer

So Boston gets Hayword and probably picks and Utah gets Crowder and gives up picks.
07-06-2017, 02:59 PM
Mythrol

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Originally Posted by lsutigers33

So Boston gets Hayword and probably picks and Utah gets Crowder and gives up picks.

I can't imagine Utah gives up any real picks. Boston had to move contracts to get Hayward. Utah is making that move possible.
07-06-2017, 03:02 PM
PELICANSFAN

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

I can't imagine Utah gives up any real picks. Boston had to move contracts to get Hayward. Utah is making that move possible.

I would think Boston would demand at least what they could get elsewhere (so, either a young cheaper player or picks/cash).
07-06-2017, 03:04 PM
PelsFan2313

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

I can't imagine Utah gives up any real picks. Boston had to move contracts to get Hayward. Utah is making that move possible.

Boston is still doing them a favor. They don't have to trade with Utah and they certainly don't have to give up Crowder (which I think is beyond stupid that they're doing that for a UFA). I'm sure there were other teams that were willing to give up something for a player like Smart, which would have been more than enough to clear the requisite cap space.
07-06-2017, 03:13 PM
Mythrol

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Originally Posted by PelsFan2313

Boston is still doing them a favor. They don't have to trade with Utah and they certainly don't have to give up Crowder (which I think is beyond stupid that they're doing that for a UFA). I'm sure there were other teams that we're willing to give up something for a player like Smart, which would have been more than enough to clear the requisite cap space.

What other team was going to give up a ton of value when they know Boston has to dump contract(s)?
07-06-2017, 03:17 PM
PELICANSFAN

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

What other team was going to give up a ton of value when they know Boston has to dump contract(s)?

It is not like anyone is going to try and hold Boston hostage. However, they will try to get value. Utah will have to give up something to get him. Other teams are not going to intentionally try to spite Boston if they can get a good player for a reasonable price.
07-06-2017, 03:24 PM
Mythrol

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

It is not like anyone is going to try and hold Boston hostage. However, they will try to get value. Utah will have to give up something to get him. Other teams are not going to intentionally try to spite Boston if they can get a good player for a reasonable price.

Reasonable price, sure. What is a reasonable price for a salary dump? Which is basically what Boston is doing. My point is it goes both ways, Boston is the one who needs the space. In every other scenario they'd have to give up an asset to dump it, if the player is decent/good they can usually give him away for free.

Heck, how many teams even have the cap space to Straight absorb a player without needing to send one back?

I couldn't imagine Utah gives anything more than a heavy protected 1st.
07-06-2017, 03:29 PM
PelsFan2313

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Reasonable price, sure. What is a reasonable price for a salary dump? Which is basically what Boston is doing. My point is it goes both ways, Boston is the one who needs the space. In every other scenario they'd have to give up an asset to dump it, if the player is decent/good they can usually give him away for free.

Heck, how many teams even have the cap space to Straight absorb a player without needing to send one back?

I couldn't imagine Utah gives anything more than a heavy protected 1st.

It's not just a salary dump. Boston understandably has less leverage because they have to get rid of these players, sure. But these players are still valuable assets, it's not like they're trying to dump Ajinca or Asik. So while they may not get fair market value, the price of moving these contracts certainly shouldn't be so detrimental that Boston has to give up additional assets in addition to the players.
07-06-2017, 03:34 PM
PELICANSFAN

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Reasonable price, sure. What is a reasonable price for a salary dump? Which is basically what Boston is doing. My point is it goes both ways, Boston is the one who needs the space. In every other scenario they'd have to give up an asset to dump it, if the player is decent/good they can usually give him away for free.

Heck, how many teams even have the cap space to Straight absorb a player without needing to send one back?

I couldn't imagine Utah gives anything more than a heavy protected 1st.

But the player being discussed has one of the best contracts in the NBA. There is too much value there just to dump him.
07-06-2017, 03:54 PM
jprdbulldog20

The Hawks and Jamal Crawford continue to discuss buyout. If bought out, sources say the Wolves, Cavs, Wizards, Bucks, Lakers are in the mix.
— Alex Kennedy (@AlexKennedyNBA) July 6, 2017
07-06-2017, 04:05 PM
Mythrol

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

But the player being discussed has one of the best contracts in the NBA. There is too much value there just to dump him.

He won't if he is being S&T.
07-06-2017, 04:06 PM
rt0307

Source: Blazers, Rockets, #Knicks have engaged in early talks regarding a 3 team deal that could potentially send C. Anthony to Houston.
— Sports News (@JSports_ent) July 6, 2017
07-06-2017, 04:10 PM
jprdbulldog20

According to a source, Dallas Mavericks, who drafted Dennis Smith Jr., emerging as "serious contender'' for Derrick Rose.
— Marc Berman (@NYPost_Berman) July 6, 2017
07-06-2017, 04:11 PM
Caleb462

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Originally Posted by MistaWhoDat

The Boogie trade did not just happen I wish everyone would stop saying that we need a lot more than Boogie . Let's pretend we just got Boogie and it will make us all feel better about doing nothing in free agency that's a loser mentality. The future is now we have to do more hopefully that will happen this weekend like some " insiders" are saying but I highly doubt anything that's going to move the needle will actually happen .

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Not saying the team doesn't need more players - I'm saying fans shouldn't get too upset if there aren't any big splashes made by the Pelicans, because the biggest move has already been made in season. Of course they need more - especially in the backcourt.
07-06-2017, 04:14 PM
PELICANSFAN

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

He won't if he is being S&T.

No, I meant to just dump him as part of the S&T without getting something else back from Utah.
07-06-2017, 04:14 PM
PELICANSFAN

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Originally Posted by rt0307

Source: Blazers, Rockets, #Knicks have engaged in early talks regarding a 3 team deal that could potentially send C. Anthony to Houston.
— Sports News (@JSports_ent) July 6, 2017

Dang. Houston seems to be getting all the pieces they want.
07-06-2017, 04:19 PM
Mythrol

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

No, I meant to just dump him as part of the S&T without getting something else back from Utah.

They are getting Hayward.

What do you think Utah is giving up?
07-06-2017, 04:19 PM
pelicanchamp

Will Barton said he's not going to resign with Denver? Is that right?

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07-06-2017, 04:20 PM
Mrakar

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Originally Posted by rt0307

Euro star point guard Milo Teodosic has agreed to a two-year, $12.3M deal with the Los Angeles Clippers, league sources tell ESPN.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 6, 2017

Deal includes a player option on second year, sources tell ESPN. https://t.co/QSukVepkTS
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 6, 2017

I would rather have him at that price then Jrue for what we got him :/
But both would be even better.
07-06-2017, 04:20 PM
rt0307

'Melo was rumored to have been spotted in Houston today
07-06-2017, 04:21 PM
rt0307

Keep in mind talks are very early names that have been discussed are Anderson, Harkless, Myers, Melo. Talks are fluid. https://t.co/ihEMldxgly
— Sports News (@JSports_ent) July 6, 2017
07-06-2017, 04:22 PM
PELICANSFAN

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

They are getting Hayward.

What do you think Utah is giving up?

Probably a draft pick.
07-06-2017, 04:24 PM
Mythrol

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Probably a draft pick.

I said a protected 1st. Are you expecting Utah to give up 2?
07-06-2017, 04:24 PM
PELICANSFAN

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Originally Posted by rt0307

Keep in mind talks are very early names that have been discussed are Anderson, Harkless, Myers, Melo. Talks are fluid. https://t.co/ihEMldxgly
— Sports News (@JSports_ent) July 6, 2017

Woulda thought Melo had more value than that.
07-06-2017, 04:26 PM
pelicanchamp

Rockets could dethrone the warriors.

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07-06-2017, 04:27 PM
PELICANSFAN

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

I said a protected 1st. Are you expecting Utah to give up 2?

Nah, probably one pick. Not sure if Utah has any 2018 picks left after trading for Rubio. If not, may be a 1st round swap agreement for 2019 and a 2nd rounder.
07-06-2017, 04:38 PM
PolishFan

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Originally Posted by pelicanchamp

Rockets could dethrone the warriors.

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You give too much credit to Melo.
07-06-2017, 04:38 PM
DirtySouf

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Originally Posted by pelicanchamp

Rockets could dethrone the warriors.

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Too many high usage stars...
07-06-2017, 04:48 PM
Mythrol

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Nah, probably one pick. Not sure if Utah has any 2018 picks left after trading for Rubio. If not, may be a 1st round swap agreement for 2019 and a 2nd rounder.

I could actually see that being a realistic return.
07-06-2017, 04:58 PM
tyler

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Originally Posted by PolishFan

You give too much credit to Melo.

22-6-3 I wish we had a sf like that. Actually some posters wanted him here
07-06-2017, 05:00 PM
Smirk

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Originally Posted by pelicanchamp

Rockets could dethrone the warriors.

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Not a chance in hell.
07-06-2017, 05:01 PM
6warddude

well , i guess the summer league game tomorrow will give us something exciting to talk about pelican wise while we wait on something to happen with the team.....i expect a pelican blowout tomorrow with the players we have lol.....
07-06-2017, 05:01 PM
PolishFan

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Originally Posted by tyler

22-6-3 I wish we had a sf like that. Actually some posters wanted him here

I never did. He is a selfish player and plays no defense. He might make them better (depends what they give up for him) but it's not a given and for sure he wont help them beat the Warriors.
07-06-2017, 05:03 PM
PolishFan

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Originally Posted by 6warddude

well , i guess the summer league game tomorrow will give us something exciting to talk about pelican wise while we wait on something to happen with the team.....i expect a pelican blowout tomorrow with the players we have lol.....

yeah, I am waiting for this game. A pity the rook wont play
07-06-2017, 05:06 PM
xVikingx

Why don't we just trade AD and DC for like 2022/23/24 first/second rounder packages and bad contracts. load up on future picks after warriors 10 year reign on the NBA. We could just trust the process...
07-06-2017, 05:22 PM
tyler

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Originally Posted by PolishFan

I never did. He is a selfish player and plays no defense. He might make them better (depends what they give up for him) but it's not a given and for sure he wont help them beat the Warriors.

Yea he's like that since when he is by himself but when he plays second fiddle he is actually very efficient... Look at how he played in the Olympics
07-06-2017, 05:54 PM
Buckwheat

What value is Cousins at this point?
Maybe we should get something for him now before he rolls out end of year.
07-06-2017, 06:02 PM
SonOfNOLA

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Originally Posted by xVikingx

Why don't we just trade AD and DC for like 2022/23/24 first/second rounder packages and bad contracts. load up on future picks after warriors 10 year reign on the NBA. We could just trust the process...

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Originally Posted by Buckwheat

What value is Cousins at this point?
Maybe we should get something for him now before he rolls out end of year.

Let's trade everybody
07-06-2017, 06:09 PM
rt0307

u sense Hou would include Trev and Gordon? I'd rather have those 2 and the extra $ if I'm morey. Would have to be Anderson til I'm excited
— BehindCurve (@BehindCurve) July 6, 2017

I haven't heard those names yet. https://t.co/g8koGSHOjs
— Sports News (@JSports_ent) July 6, 2017
07-06-2017, 06:20 PM
rt0307

Washington has received Otto Porter's $106M offer sheet from Brooklyn, league source tells ESPN.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 6, 2017

Wiz have 48 hours to do what everyone expects them to... match the offer
07-06-2017, 06:27 PM
rt0307

Brooklyn's $106M-plus offer sheet for Porter includes a player option and a trade kicker, league sources tell ESPN.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 6, 2017

As @ZachLowe_NBA reports, it's a 15 percent trade kicker. Washington has vowed to match the sheet. Deadline is midnight on July 8. https://t.co/espCIMZqCd
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 6, 2017

If the Wizards match, Otto Porter will have one-year to veto any trade and cannot be acquired by Brooklyn.
— Bobby Marks (@BobbyMarks42) July 6, 2017
07-06-2017, 06:33 PM
jprdbulldog20

It's official, the New Orleans Pelicans have re-signed guard @Jrue_Holiday11!
Press Release: https://t.co/pa5cGKtCpV pic.twitter.com/K0AhVirrIH
— New Orleans Pelicans (@PelicansNBA) July 6, 2017
07-06-2017, 06:33 PM
ramsters60

TBW has a piece about Ian Clark and I think I would fully support this signing...

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