Pelicans to meet with Tyreke Evans (offer has been made)

I'm really torn man. Part of me hopes they match and we move on with Gordon and Iggy, part of me will be so excited if he chooses us.

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Originally Posted by jjmurphree

I'm surprised nobody thinks that we will roster BOTH Evans and Gordon next season, and when it gets near the deadline we will trade a (potentially) healthy Gordon for a lottery pick and a league average wing, allowing Evans to step into the 2 role. Our GM knows that Gordon is not valued right now, but everyone knows that a healthy Gordon will be a hot commodity come trade season.

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Do you think EG will stay healthy up until the trade deadline? I don't and when he doesn't his value is NOTHING

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Sure you expect them to or want them to?

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As long as we keep Gordon, I'm excited to add Evans. If it leads to us trading Gordon, I'm against it. Saw Stein's tweet that the Pelicans plan on keeping Gordon, so I'm actually excited about adding Evans now. Plus that post from Bee-fense has me less worries about his efficiency. Under Monty, and our organization I expect Tyreke to thrive big time. Who has Sacramento developed in the last 10+ years? Peja??? I honestly can't think of one player they have developed in the last decade but I could be missing one. Bottom line, if we keep Gordon I want Tyreke, but I'm not getting my hopes up because I do expect Sacramento to match because they are undergoing a culture change and they are under a new regime and they need all the talent they can get.

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Originally Posted by All Metro

Do you think EG will stay healthy up until the trade deadline? I don't and when he doesn't his value is NOTHING

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You saying all that but we have don't any value for him now so whats the point

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Please include link for credit.

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Done

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Originally Posted by tyler

You saying all that but we have any value for him now so whats the point

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You and I are one of the few who want Gordon to stay around. If we add Evans and keep Gordon, I'll be one excited SOB.

I'm torn with my opinion with Tyreke as well. It's disconcerting that he hasn't noticably gotten better from his rookie season...but he also plays for the Kings, not the best coaching staff ever. I fear that he's a guy that might not be self-motivated to improve, and he will be in his prime.

Also, with this lineup (EG, Jrue, and Tyreke), someone will have to play off the ball from time to time. I believe Jrue could do it, but I don't know how successful EG or Tyreke will be doing this.

If these players like being w/ the Pelicans and work to adapt their games to fit the team, we could have one of the most talented backcourts in the entire NBA.

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Originally Posted by tyler

You saying all that but we have any value for him now so whats the point

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Do YOU think EG stays healthy until the trade deadline next year? Answer that.

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Originally Posted by tyler

I've been hearing people actually kings fan say that Tyreke is really lazy...:help:

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Reminds me of Magic fans saying Ryno was a product of D12, we saw how that turned out:hihi:

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Originally Posted by Pelicans_fan_504

Reminds me of Magic fans saying Ryno was a product of D12, we saw how that turned out:hihi:

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LOL right.

Probably 2 misinformed/disgruntled fans said that. Anyone can read the Kings forum and see that their fans would hate to see Tyreke go.

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Originally Posted by All Metro

Do YOU think EG stays healthy until the trade deadline next year? Answer that.

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I think he has a better chance this year then any other year... But as of right now I don't he has trade value so why trade him and let evans come off the bench

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Originally Posted by Pelicans_fan_504

Reminds me of Magic fans saying Ryno was a product of D12, we saw how that turned out:hihi:

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I never heard Ryno being lazy

Is no one considering ego? Holiday, Gordon, and Evans have shown they can do great things in this league already, yet all 3 still have a lot to prove. I cannot imagine 3 shooting guards (equivalent to WR in the NFL, aka divas) willing to share minutes and space so much. Never mind Davis will need his looks.

If Evans signs one of them (Gordon) will probably be on the outs. I'm not a fan of that before they get a chance to play.

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Originally Posted by tyler

I think he has a better chance this year then any other year... But as of right now I don't he has trade value so why trade him and let evans come off the bench

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Only Demps knows this answer but I think he does have value now and any value is better than the 0 value he'll have when he starts missing games next season. I just don't trust him and I don't see any reason why Demps or Monty would. If his value is 0 like you think, of course we keep him we wont have an option. But if he does have value now and you hold him until the trade deadline next season with hopes of increasing his value, you're playing with fire.

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Originally Posted by tyler

I've been hearing people actually kings fan say that Tyreke is really lazy...:help:

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You are all with the propoganda to get your message across, aren't you. We get it, you don't like him. You think it's a bad fit.

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Originally Posted by All Metro

LOL right.

Probably 2 misinformed/disgruntled fans said that. Anyone can read the Kings forum and see that their fans would hate to see Tyreke go.

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Are you serious... The fact that ppl crediting this man better then what he really just surprises me... Its like we give stats, scouting reports, but ppl still dismiss it... The dude is good but ppl putting him on the peddle stool saying that he is great... the dude is a slasher who's court vision isn't all what its cracked up to be a lazy defender, and a person that can't shoot And his best season when he as playing point guard...

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

You are all with the propoganda to get your message across, aren't you. We get it, you don't like him. You think it's a bad fit.

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Originally Posted by tyler

Are you serious... The fact that ppl crediting this man better then what he really just surprises me... Its like we give stats, scouting reports, but ppl still dismiss it... The dude is good but ppl putting him on the peddle stool saying that he is great... the dude is a slasher who's court vision isn't all what its cracked up to be a lazy defender, and a person that can't shoot And his best season when he as playing point guard...

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Pedestal

Without any new information, this thread has all become "I HATE TYREKE" vs. "I LOVE HIM TRADE GORDON." Wake me up when Tyreke signs/Kings match.

I am not too worried. One way or another I think we end up with Tyreke. I wouldn't be surprised with a sign and trade at worst. With more moves to come. Probably a guy like Copeland or Brewer in addition to Evans once all wheeling and delling is done.

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Originally Posted by All Metro

Do YOU think EG stays healthy until the trade deadline next year? Answer that.

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What if they don't use EG in heavy rotation ? Always keep him fresh , don't push him too hard . Give him a chance to increase his value with a eventual trade in mind when his value increases

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Originally Posted by JrueDat

Pedestal

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Hahaha

Some people don't realize that being a good GM is finding a player and locking him in at a price before he peaks and letting someone walk before they decline exponentially.

Obviously Dell and Monty are on the same page when it comes to Tyreke. They believe that he is going to peak soon and that it would be exponentially more on this team which justifies his price.

There jobs will be determined based on the aggregate of these moves.

Sometimes you have to take a risk and weigh the advantages/disadvantages.

Dell had done well to earn our respect up until this point.

We could be talking about this in a year or two and we will either be saying, Dell screwed up or Dell is a genius but we won't know unless we take that leap.

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The Sacramento Bee does not expect the Kings to match the four-year, $44 million deal the Pelicans have offered restricted free agent Tyreke Evans.
Evans isn't done traveling the free agent circuit yet, but the Kings appear prepared to let him move on. They've been linked to unrestricted free agent Andre Iguodala, who would fill more of the classic small forward hole they have. Evans, meanwhile, has already met with the Pistons, Pelicans, Kings and Hawks. He'll meet with more teams, but we doubt he'll find a better deal than the one New Orleans has offered.

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Rotoworld reporting form the Bee that it seems they won't match.

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nba/210810/Kings-unlikely-to-match-a-$44M-sheet-on-Evans?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

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Originally Posted by JrueDat

Pedestal

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I was going to say that lmfao

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Originally Posted by saintsinNO

Hahaha

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Peddle stool essentially translates into 'selling poop as a door to door salesman' What Dell has to do with Gordon ;) I joke... I joke. Yay Gordon, hurrah!!

at the end of the day the healthy man plays

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Originally Posted by JrueDat

Peddle stool essentially translates into 'selling poop as a door to door salesman' What Dell has to do with Gordon ;) I joke... I joke. Yay Gordon, hurrah!!

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Well played. Lol

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Originally Posted by Luke's Pelicans

Rotoworld reporting form the Bee that it seems they won't match.

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nba/210810/Kings-unlikely-to-match-a-$44M-sheet-on-Evans?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

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Good.

The plot...stagnates.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

The plot...stagnates.

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.............again

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

The plot...stagnates.

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If he agrees its gonna be a long week and a half, waiting until the 13th to see if Kings match.

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Originally Posted by GeauxPelicans

If he agrees its gonna be a long week and a half, waiting until the 13th to see if Kings match.

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They usually come right out and say.

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Originally Posted by saintsinNO

They usually come right out and say.

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According to that rotoworld article they already did.

Are we stuck until Evans makes his decision? I mean can we try to sign Brewer at the same time for example?
Webster is gone now...

Demps.. demps.. demps... smh

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar

According to that rotoworld article they already did.

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No, Rotoworld is just referring to speculation by Sac reporters. Nothing from any source or the team. I'd imagine he'd have to agree before they go there.

What's the rush? Can't do much until the 10th anyways.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

What's the rush? Can't do much until the 10th anyways.

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Talking and offering the money to other FA's...

Does this remind anyone of last year's 3 guard lineup on steroids? Everyone seemed to be clamoring for more Gordon, Vazquez, Roberts at the end of last season. Gimmie some Holiday, Evans, Gordon.

Also, while only one is "elite" at shooting, how often do teams have 5 guys who can space the floor and have respectable jump shots. Jrue, Gordon, Evans, Anderson, Davis is a beast to guard.... remember, everyone's worried about floor spacing with evans but this is really the opposite of the normal model, with the guards diving to the hoop and the bigs popping out for jumpers. Lineups like these take bigs like hibbert out of the game defensively.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

What's the rush? Can't do much until the 10th anyways.

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Just the feeling that some players we could have offered a contract to, are off the market on the 2nd day of free agency, like Webster.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

What's the rush? Can't do much until the 10th anyways.

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Probably because we have to figure out what to do with Lopez by the 5th or his contract becomes guaranteed.

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Originally Posted by Nola Hornet

Probably because we have to figure out what to do with Lopez by the 5th or his contract becomes guaranteed.

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and i'm sure they Told Tyreke for this to become a reality we need to know by the 4th.

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Originally Posted by saintsinNO

Talking and offering the money to other FA's...

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Those negotiations are already happening
hey if tyreke signs.. we're interested
Or
As you know if we don't get Tyreke we want you. Boom.

Mark Heisler ‏@MarkHeisler 11m

Don't worry if you're confused, #NBA GMs right w/you. Bidding fever sees Kings think about maxing out Iggy after #Pelicans offer Tyreke $44M

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Originally Posted by Pelicantoo

Mark Heisler ‏@MarkHeisler 11m

Don't worry if you're confused, #NBA GMs right w/you. Bidding fever sees Kings think about maxing out Iggy after #Pelicans offer Tyreke $44M

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Makes me feel a little better about over paying for Tyreke

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Those negotiations are already happening
hey if tyreke signs.. we're interested
Or
As you know if we don't get Tyreke we want you. Boom.

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And while you're doing that another team tells them that they are priority one and actuallys offers them. Then you lose out on any player. Boom.

Of course they want to rush as much as possible. There's a wide gap between done and 'official.'

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Originally Posted by saintsinNO

And while you're doing that another team tells them that they are priority one and actuallys offers them. Then you lose out on any player. Boom.

Of course they want to rush as much as possible. Theres a wide gap between done and 'official.'

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With regard to out persuit of a middling SF free agent, I actually think it's a good thing for us to let the market play out for a few more days. You could pay 4.5 mil or so for someone like Wright, or hold off and get someone like Budinger or Brewer for 3mil.

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Originally Posted by saintsinNO

And while you're doing that another team tells them that they are priority one and actuallys offers them. Then you lose out on any player. Boom.

Of course they want to rush as much as possible. Theres a wide gap between done and 'official.'

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Please. Do phones not work when you're negotiating? Whether Tyreke says he's signing with us today or tomorrow they know they weren't priority. Means the same thing if i offer you 2 million more today and you agree versus saying if Tyreke doesn't sign i'll offer you million more. I'm sure they're going to hold out for that call for the extra 2 million. I'm sure Tyreke will get back to us in a timely manner. I completely understand that there's a wide gap, but there's also a lot of wiggle room.

I wonder who else we will woo this week? This weekend is Essence weekend!