Pelicans to meet with Tyreke Evans (offer has been made)

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Originally Posted by tyler

Tbh I want Gordon too

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How important is reliability and dependability?

Tyreke Evans is like a Corvette: Fast. Pwerful. Reliable. Dependable.

Gordon is like a Ferrari: Fast. Powerful. Better car on paper. More expensive. More likely to leave you stranded on the side of the road watching everyone else pass you by. Especially if you have one with a history of breaking down.

As they continue to chase restricted free agent Tyreke Evans, Pelicans' preference is to sign him to offer sheet w/out dealing Eric Gordon

— Marc Stein (@ESPNSteinLine) July 2, 2013

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Originally Posted by jhow0036

As they continue to chase restricted free agent Tyreke Evans, Pelicans' preference is to sign him to offer sheet w/out dealing Eric Gordon

— Marc Stein (@ESPNSteinLine) July 2, 2013

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That's what I'd expect us to say... But don't believe it.

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Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP

That's what I'd expect us to say... But don't believe it.

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Somebody doesn't want to be proven wrong.

For some interesting (mostly panicked) reading, check here:

http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/show...o-Tyreke-Evans

Made me feel much better about Evans - their fans are not happy one bit.

Pelicans should ask for an answere from Evans today. I would not let him hold us in limbo while he shops our offer around. Ask for answer today or move on to next guy on your list.

I really don't like this deal unless Gordon gets traded. It just feels like an awful lot of money to tie into one position when we haven't addressed the SF spot yet.

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Originally Posted by sting

Pelicans should ask for an answere from Evans today. I would not let him hold us in limbo while he shops our offer around. Ask for answer today or move on to next guy on your list.

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http://www.sacbee.com/2013/07/02/553...-after-he.html Sacramento Bee ! Pretty reliable, I guess !

11 millions a year to have him play sixth man? No kidding please.

When they say that they don't want to deal Gordon, do they mean as part of this deal (making it a sign and trade), because I get that. Why trade Gordon for Reke, when you can sign Reke outright and trade Gordon for something else?

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Originally Posted by jhow0036

As they continue to chase restricted free agent Tyreke Evans, Pelicans' preference is to sign him to offer sheet w/out dealing Eric Gordon

— Marc Stein (@ESPNSteinLine) July 2, 2013

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Now I have question. Are we refusing to move Eric because we have another deal in place to move him, and we need this signing to go through first? I read somewhere that we are getting offers for him.

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Originally Posted by sting

Pelicans should ask for an answere from Evans today. I would not let him hold us in limbo while he shops our offer around. Ask for answer today or move on to next guy on your list.

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I don't like that he continues to shop it either. His agent is Tellem, one of the best in the NBA. He should have an idea of the market value after talking with interested teams. I heard last night on NBA.TV that he may even talk to one other EC team after the Hawks. We need to give him a deadline so that we can decide how to proceed with Lopez (as his deadline is approaching).

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Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP

That's what I'd expect us to say... But don't believe it.

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You just don't want to be live it because of your hatred towards Gordon

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Originally Posted by Imnos 2

Now I have question. Are we refusing to move Eric because we have another deal in place to move him, and we need this signing to go through first? I read somewhere that we are getting offers for him.

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The only way Gordon gets traded will be if Dell gets an offer that blows him away. They aren't going to trade him to simply clear cap space.

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

I don't like that he continues to shop it either. His agent is Tellem, one of the best in the NBA. He should have an idea of the market value after talking with interested teams. I heard last night on NBA.TV that he may even talk to one other EC team after the Hawks. We need to give him a deadline so that we can decide how to proceed with Lopez (as his deadline is approaching).

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http://hoopshype.com/agents/arn_tellem.htm

He's also Robin Lopez's agent. So maybe Evans can do ROLO a solid and get him released after a career season so he can get paid.

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Originally Posted by sting

Pelicans should ask for an answere from Evans today. I would not let him hold us in limbo while he shops our offer around. Ask for answer today or move on to next guy on your list.

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You might as well move on to the next guy then because giving an ultimatum like this almost never works out like you want it. Also giving free agents deadlines reaks of desperation and becomes a deterrent to any other players you end up persuing down the line. Be patient and have some confidence in our front office .

If the Kings match we could be stuck with Gordon. Why burn bridges before you cross it?

Kid is 23 years old and has his first chance ever to explore his options.

It's been ONE DAY! He has every right to look into every option possible. To not do that would be irresponsible in my opinion. The fact that we are getting impatient on the second day of free agency and a frustration with this kid not making the biggest decision of his life yet just speaks to our generation.

It's been ONE DAY!

As those of you who listen to the podcast probably know, my best friend works in B.O. for the Hawks.

Long story short, the meeting with Hawks was scheduled by Evans' agent, not the other way around. Hawks have little interest. More interested in other guys.

Doubt they are a threat, but you cant blame Evans agent for trying to sell his client to a team with all that cap space and a need on the perimeter

Still feeling Sac will be crazy enough to match. I just hope this isn't J.J. Hickson 2.0 in terms of the potential game.

did we roll out the carpet for Tyreke though???

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

As those of you who listen to the podcast probably know, my best friend works in B.O. for the Hawks.

Long story short, the meeting with Hawks was scheduled by Evans' agent, not the other way around. Hawks have little interest. More interested in other guys.

Doubt they are a threat, but you cant blame Evans agent for trying to sell his client to a team with all that cap space and a need on the perimeter

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What does that say for Evans' interest in the Pelicans (lukewarm? solely financially driven?)? He has gotten a phenomenal offer (by the comments in the media, much more than anyone anticipated), met with other teams, took our offer back to his original team and then still continues to look elsewhere. That, on top of the fact that we only hear of visits, not all the discussions his agent has with other teams around the NBA. He should already know the level of interest out there and be able to gauge whether there are bigger offers available. Hopefully Demps moves on and contines shopping so as to not lose another potential high target. If he agrees, fine. If not, maybe we can reach an agreement elsewhere and pull the offer if this lingers too long. I suspect it cannot linger more than another 2-3 days as Lopez has to be dealt with.

I have to admint, I am not clear as to what Demps' plan even is any longer for the team. It will be interesting to see what his plans are.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

As those of you who listen to the podcast probably know, my best friend works in B.O. for the Hawks.

Long story short, the meeting with Hawks was scheduled by Evans' agent, not the other way around. Hawks have little interest. More interested in other guys.

Doubt they are a threat, but you cant blame Evans agent for trying to sell his client to a team with all that cap space and a need on the perimeter

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Aren't all the meetings out west with the agent (i.e. teams traveling to agent/player, not vice versa)? If so, are they flying out there just as a courtesy? I guess they could be visiting with him about some of his other players as well.

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Aren't all the meetings out west with the agent (i.e. teams traveling to agent/player, not vice versa)? If so, are they flying out there just as a courtesy? I guess they could be visiting with him about some of his other players as well.

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No. There are other guys out there that they already planning on seeing. Plus, Reke's agent has other guys they might be interested in.

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

What does that say for Evans' interest in the Pelicans (lukewarm? solely financially driven?)? He has gotten a phenomenal offer (by the comments in the media, much more than anyone anticipated), met with other teams, took our offer back to his original team and then still continues to look elsewhere. That, on top of the fact that we only hear of visits, not all the discussions his agent has with other teams around the NBA. He should already know the level of interest out there and be able to gauge whether there are bigger offers available. Hopefully Demps moves on and contines shopping so as to not lose another potential high target. If he agrees, fine. If not, maybe we can reach an agreement elsewhere and pull the offer if this lingers too long. I suspect it cannot linger more than another 2-3 days as Lopez has to be dealt with.

I have to admint, I am not clear as to what Demps' plan even is any longer for the team. It will be interesting to see what his plans are.

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2 Things.

1.) Selling goes both ways. Teams often sell the player, but it can go the other way around. If Evans agent can get another 4-8 million out of the Hawks, why not try? This is a business after all.

2.) I agree. I would bet that we have all our answers by July 5th. In internet time, that seems like an eternity, but again, 20 years ago we would be completely in the dark until the 10th or maybe even the 13th

I'm not sure if the Kings would match. I suspect they'll look hard at it, if for no other reason than to try to deal him during the season.

If I am Dell, I sell them on sign and trade with Roberts going back to them. Get a solid young guard on a great contract and a 10 million dollar TPE that they can use in a trade. Better than paying a guy not in your plans just for the hope you can flip him or losing him for nothing

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Originally Posted by MonsterMash

I'm not sure if the Kings would match. I suspect they'll look hard at it, if for no other reason than to try to deal him during the season.

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Didn't we have to wait a whole year to trade Gordan after we matched. Or is that something Gordan had put in his contract?

I don't see the Kings matching. When those meetings happen usually it comes out that they intend to match, which did not happen here. I'd imagine they said they want him at X amount (8-10 I'd assume) and he is mulling it over. At the end of the day, they may, but I just don't see them matching. S&T will end up being worked out because we have to move money and they want something in return. Win Win.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

If I am Dell, I sell them on sign and trade with Roberts going back to them. Get a solid young guard on a great contract and a 10 million dollar TPE that they can use in a trade. Better than paying a guy not in your plans just for the hope you can flip him or losing him for nothing

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What makes you think they'd take Roberts over Vasqhez? Unless your last sentence refers to Vasquez instead of Evans. And isn't Roberts 28? Not exactly "young," but not ancient either.

Roberts is a little cheaper and doesnt have expectations of being a starter. Also, it looks like Dell is looking to move Vasquez in other deals that net him more, so he will push for Roberts and tell Sacto "It's better than nothing, right?"

You get Roberts for nothing and flip him for Tyreke the same way we did with Goose and Anderson. I love it. I can only hope they go for it.

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Originally Posted by Mr. West

You get Roberts for nothing and flip him for Tyreke the same way we did with Goose and Anderson. I love it. I can only hope they go for it.

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Not exactly. We are really just throwing them in. Getting Roberts has zero to do with whether they match or not. We are throwing money at these guys and rubbing their old team on the back, it's not a straight trade.

Am I the only person who expects the Kings to match?

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Originally Posted by GeauxPelicans

Am I the only person who expects the Kings to match?

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I think they match

Some opinions on Evans fit in NO.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/...ree-agent-fits

2. Good fit or bad fit: Tyreke Evans and the New Orleans Pelicans.

Dubin: Good fit. Evans quietly turned in the best shooting performance of his career last season (though he still shot only 33.3 percent from 3-point land) and is versatile enough that he can play small forward next to a Jrue Holiday-Eric Gordon backcourt as well as some shooting guard with bench-heavy units. For a team whose current small forward rotation last season consisted of Al-Farouq Aminu and Lance Thomas, this is a perfectly reasonable move to make.

Foster: Bad fit for now. Add up last season's usage percentages for Gordon, Holiday, Evans, Ryan Anderson and Anthony Davis, and the total number is 124.1 percent. Unless the Pelicans get to play with two balls as a parting gift from David Stern, that's going to leave some folks unhappy with their touches. Trade Gordon and it's a decent fit, but it's a bad one as is.

Haberstroh: Good fit. Not a fan of the reported price tag of four years, $44 million, but as long as Evans is on board with a role off the bench and possibly playing a little small forward, I give this move two big thumbs up. Also consider the fact that Eric Gordon has an iffy health record, and Evans can serve as insurance at 2-guard. Another big thing: Anything's better than Austin Rivers.

Koremenos: Is interesting an option? Hard to say whether Evans will be a good or bad fit without seeing what his role is and who plays next to him. A Holiday-Gordon-Evans lineup has a lot of offensive potential, but if Evans balks at playing the 3, it would have probably been better for New Orleans to spend its money on someone who winds up being more than a sixth man.

Schmidt: Good fit. The Pelicans have the luxury of one of the best shooting big men in the NBA in Andersen. If any team can get away with a nonshooter at the 2 or 3, it's them. Evans will also have a clearly defined role next to Holiday that he never seemed to have in Sacramento.

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Originally Posted by GeauxPelicans

Am I the only person who expects the Kings to match?

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Originally Posted by Luke's Pelicans

I think they match

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They have money to spend, but I just don't see it. When they want to make a commitment to a guy they tell him we are matching the offer. They surely said they still want him, but noting came out about matching. I don't know that they want to tie up $11mil/year in him when they have an excess of swingmen. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if they did...good thing about this deal is I'd be happy with it or happy without. We'll see.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Roberts is a little cheaper and doesnt have expectations of being a starter. Also, it looks like Dell is looking to move Vasquez in other deals that net him more, so he will push for Roberts and tell Sacto "It's better than nothing, right?"

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And....he would still be either their best, or second best pg option.

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Originally Posted by GeauxPelicans

Am I the only person who expects the Kings to match?

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Sure you expect them to or want them to?

Kings are posturing about matching to try to get a better S/T offer for Tyreke.

Tyreke is still talking with other teams because he's doing his due diligence and has a good agent. He knows the Pelicans really want him, and he's either trying to get a more favorable deal from them by creating the appearance of competition for his services, or hoping someone else jumps in and offers more money.

Boom.

I've been hearing people actually kings fan say that Tyreke is really lazy...:help:

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Originally Posted by tyler

I've been hearing people actually kings fan say that Tyreke is really lazy...:help:

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They are going to say whatever they can to make themselves feel better about losing him. For a while I did the same thing with Chris Paul and David west

I hope they don't match it I really don't. I think Evans could thrive with the Pelicans and grow to the potential we all know he has.

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Originally Posted by tyler

I've been hearing people actually kings fan say that Tyreke is really lazy...:help:

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That has been said about him before. There has been some more recent comments that indicate he may be maturing. Hopefully with a more structured lockerroom, he will not have those issues.

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Originally Posted by sting

Some opinions on Evans fit in NO.

2. Good fit or bad fit: Tyreke Evans and the New Orleans Pelicans.

Dubin: Good fit. Evans quietly turned in the best shooting performance of his career last season (though he still shot only 33.3 percent from 3-point land) and is versatile enough that he can play small forward next to a Jrue Holiday-Eric Gordon backcourt as well as some shooting guard with bench-heavy units. For a team whose current small forward rotation last season consisted of Al-Farouq Aminu and Lance Thomas, this is a perfectly reasonable move to make.

Foster: Bad fit for now. Add up last season's usage percentages for Gordon, Holiday, Evans, Ryan Anderson and Anthony Davis, and the total number is 124.1 percent. Unless the Pelicans get to play with two balls as a parting gift from David Stern, that's going to leave some folks unhappy with their touches. Trade Gordon and it's a decent fit, but it's a bad one as is.

Haberstroh: Good fit. Not a fan of the reported price tag of four years, $44 million, but as long as Evans is on board with a role off the bench and possibly playing a little small forward, I give this move two big thumbs up. Also consider the fact that Eric Gordon has an iffy health record, and Evans can serve as insurance at 2-guard. Another big thing: Anything's better than Austin Rivers.

Koremenos: Is interesting an option? Hard to say whether Evans will be a good or bad fit without seeing what his role is and who plays next to him. A Holiday-Gordon-Evans lineup has a lot of offensive potential, but if Evans balks at playing the 3, it would have probably been better for New Orleans to spend its money on someone who winds up being more than a sixth man.

Schmidt: Good fit. The Pelicans have the luxury of one of the best shooting big men in the NBA in Andersen. If any team can get away with a nonshooter at the 2 or 3, it's them. Evans will also have a clearly defined role next to Holiday that he never seemed to have in Sacramento.

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

That has been said about him before.

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He is lazy on D. A guy that athletic with that wingspan should be DPOY considered every year, but he is very young and hopefully Monty can keep him engaged on the defensive end. Sac writers have said when he is locked in he can defend.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Sure you expect them to or want them to?

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Can't speak for him but when I said I agreed, I meant expect. I am really hoping they don't match. Team would be really fun to watch next year. I also hope we keep Gordon unless we can get an elite SF somehow.

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

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Here it is: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/...ree-agent-fits

I'm surprised nobody thinks that we will roster BOTH Evans and Gordon next season, and when it gets near the deadline we will trade a (potentially) healthy Gordon for a lottery pick and a league average wing, allowing Evans to step into the 2 role. Our GM knows that Gordon is not valued right now, but everyone knows that a healthy Gordon will be a hot commodity come trade season.

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Originally Posted by jjmurphree

I'm surprised nobody thinks that we will roster BOTH Evans and Gordon next season, and when it gets near the deadline we will trade a (potentially) healthy Gordon for a lottery pick and a league average wing, allowing Evans to step into the 2 role. Our GM knows that Gordon is not valued right now, but everyone knows that a healthy Gordon will be a hot commodity come trade season.

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I was about to say if we do keep him... I hope Ej stays... and let him run the first gaurd off the bench