2019 Official NBA Free Agent thread

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Originally Posted by luckyman

Is Gabe Fernandez some sort of NBA basketball savant I've never heard of? What is that article supposed to do?

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Ok

All I'm seeing is the Lakers overpaying minimum level players either via paying more than the min or offering player options. "Destination team" https://t.co/NFd8vpk6YE

— Shamit Dua (@FearTheBrown) July 7, 2019

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

You could easily rephrase it as;

The Lakers have two elite stars, one of whom has a history of sulking and is a continuous injury threat, and the other is 35. They have a former all-star centre whose legs have spent the last two years exploding and who was so disastrously bad that he found a way to sink Golden State's offense last season. He's always been a negative on D, and that has only gotten worse recently. They have a young scoring forward who is absolute garbage by all advanced metrics, and is a horrendous defender, and they have no quality depth: they only have maybe 2 people outside of Lebron who can create their own shot, and most of their depth is well over the age of 30 in the form of people like Rondo and Dudley.

It has nothing to do with whether we like them or not. Their roster is NOT GOOD. Could they have a super lucky year, where they have no injury issues, where Rondo and Boogie play like it was 2011 not 2019, where Lebron puts in effort on defense and where AD manages to stay in all of his games without walking out? Sure, they could. But is that really more likely than the players just y'know, being who they are?

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If healthy Davis could be the best player in the whole league. There is a high chance Lebron will still be Lebron. Cousins could get helthy and he doesnt have to be his 2011 version but his late 2017 is enough. Just like with the Warriors I think they could be a force at least next year even though I really hope they won't

Lakers fans spent all this energy trashing Dell Demps only to put the same players around AD

— Shamit Dua (@FearTheBrown) July 6, 2019

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Originally Posted by 13 - 3

Clippers did better.

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I do agree with that

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— Shamit Dua (@FearTheBrown) July 6, 2019

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— Andrew Lopez (@_Andrew_Lopez) July 6, 2019

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Originally Posted by PolishFan

If healthy Davis could be the best player in the whole league. There is a high chance Lebron will still be Lebron. Cousins could get helthy and he doesnt have to be his 2011 version but his late 2017 is enough. Just like with the Warriors I think they could be a force at least next year even though I really hope they won't

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Cousins' ''late 2017'' was 27.7/12.3/5.0 on 50% from the floor, 41% from 3, and 74% from the free throw line. That's what he averaged December of 2017.

He just came off averaging 8/5/2 on 42% from the floor, 22% from 3, and 61% from the free throw line in the NBA Finals.

Asking him to jump back up to his ''late 2017'' standards would be literally unbelievable. You'd be asking him to score nearly 4 times the points, collect more than twice the rebounds, assist on nearly twice the shots, while nearly doubling his 3pt percentage, as the fourth option on the Lakers. There is less than 1% chance that this happens.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

You could easily rephrase it as;

The Lakers have two elite stars, one of whom has a history of sulking and is a continuous injury threat, and the other is 35. They have a former all-star centre whose legs have spent the last two years exploding and who was so disastrously bad that he found a way to sink Golden State's offense last season. He's always been a negative on D, and that has only gotten worse recently. They have a young scoring forward who is absolute garbage by all advanced metrics, and is a horrendous defender, and they have no quality depth: they only have maybe 2 people outside of Lebron who can create their own shot, and most of their depth is well over the age of 30 in the form of people like Rondo and Dudley.

It has nothing to do with whether we like them or not. Their roster is NOT GOOD. Could they have a super lucky year, where they have no injury issues, where Rondo and Boogie play like it was 2011 not 2019, where Lebron puts in effort on defense and where AD manages to stay in all of his games without walking out? Sure, they could. But is that really more likely than the players just y'know, being who they are?

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Lakers are gonna be a disaster waiting to happen. They maybe duking it out with the SPURS, pelicans, Warriors for the 8th seed. I don't see how this 2 on 5 basketball supposed to work. Esepcially, when you got AD is the only great player on defense with Bron declining or possibly injured.

https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/sta...03242977140736

Reports of Bron playing Point guard lol. THIS IS HOW BAD THE TEAM IS CONSTRUCTED. Lebron is playing point like this is some rec league BB

This is your Cheick Diallo update. I'm told he's talked with Toronto recently. This has been the end of your Cheick Diallo update.

— Shamit Dua (@FearTheBrown) July 8, 2019

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Originally Posted by Taker597

Reports of Bron playing Point guard lol. THIS IS HOW BAD THE TEAM IS CONSTRUCTED. Lebron is playing point like this is some rec league BB

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In fairness, if you go by offense alone, Lebron has been playing PG for about 10 years.

Kuzma at the 3 is a terrifying thought. Brow might have to guard all 5 positions at once.

— Mark Strotman (@markstrot) July 8, 2019

Someone in the replies to this said it's gonna be a new form of box and 1. Four guys stood around yelling for help while AD tries to pick which guy to move to first.

Imagine a lineup of Rondo, Lebron, Kuzma, Cousins and AD on the floor at once. You know it's gonna happen.

That's going to be disgusting. Literally nauseating.

Watch this,

GIVE ME DAT! #SummerPelicans pic.twitter.com/gBUJ3jAEM6

— New Orleans Pelicans (@PelicansNBA) July 6, 2019

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Kuzma at the 3 is a terrifying thought. Brow might have to guard all 5 positions at once.

— Mark Strotman (@markstrot) July 8, 2019

Someone in the replies to this said it's gonna be a new form of box and 1. Four guys stood around yelling for help while AD tries to pick which guy to move to first.

Imagine a lineup of Rondo, Lebron, Kuzma, Cousins and AD on the floor at once. You know it's gonna happen.

That's going to be disgusting. Literally nauseating.

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Championship!

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Originally Posted by 13 - 3

Watch this,

GIVE ME DAT! #SummerPelicans pic.twitter.com/gBUJ3jAEM6

— New Orleans Pelicans (@PelicansNBA) July 6, 2019

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Really wish that they redesigned the jersey...

Idk anything looks better.

Maybe have a Pelican wing fanning across the front and back. Something better than these Jersey. L

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Cousins' ''late 2017'' was 27.7/12.3/5.0 on 50% from the floor, 41% from 3, and 74% from the free throw line. That's what he averaged December of 2017.

He just came off averaging 8/5/2 on 42% from the floor, 22% from 3, and 61% from the free throw line in the NBA Finals.

Asking him to jump back up to his ''late 2017'' standards would be literally unbelievable. You'd be asking him to score nearly 4 times the points, collect more than twice the rebounds, assist on nearly twice the shots, while nearly doubling his 3pt percentage, as the fourth option on the Lakers. There is less than 1% chance that this happens.

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Cousins may not be the same as in late 2017 but he shouldn’t be as bad as recently as he should get more healthy. I think y’all exaggerate a bit but I hope you are right :) I really don’t feel like defending them

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Originally Posted by PolishFan

Cousins may not be the same as in late 2017 but he shouldn’t be as bad as recently as he should get more healthy. I think y’all exaggerate a bit but I hope you are right :) I really don’t feel like defending them

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He is well worth a shot for them at such a small salary. He will have made $8.8 million in 2 seasons after turning down $40 million from us initially (and $12+ million for one year right before he chose to go to GS).

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Originally Posted by PolishFan

Cousins may not be the same as in late 2017 but he shouldn’t be as bad as recently as he should get more healthy. I think y’all exaggerate a bit but I hope you are right :) I really don’t feel like defending them

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Are players really the same after an injury like that? Kobe has even admitted he was not the same after his injury. Factor in boogey’s Weight too.

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Originally Posted by 13 - 3

Are players really the same after an injury like that? Kobe has even admitted he was not the same after his injury. Factor in boogey’s Weight too.

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Did I really say he will be the same?

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

He is well worth a shot for them at such a small salary. He will have made $8.8 million in 2 seasons after turning down $40 million from us initially (and $12+ million for one year right before he chose to go to GS).

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That’s just it. No team was really wanting to pay him because of so many question marks. I believe Boogey even changed his agent.

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Originally Posted by 13 - 3

That’s just it. No team was really wanting to pay him because of so many question marks. I believe Boogey even changed his agent.

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He did, he fired his agent.

The thing is, I think the Lakers had to do it. It's a near minimum salary, and because they had waited for Kawhi's decision, free agency had dried up: it's not like they had 50 other options. I still think the better option would have been going at JaMychal Green, but it seems he was determined to return to the Clippers so maybe they did and he just said no.

The fact that it's their best option doesn't mean it's a good option. It just means they were out of anything better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi7s...ature=youtu.be

We gotten more media attention in the last 2 months than we did with 7 years of AD. wow

ESPN Sources: The New York Knicks and free agent Reggie Bullock are re-working an original two-year, $21M deal, with both sides motivated to find an agreement with new terms. Agent David Bauman and the Knicks are re-evaluating Bullock’s fitness to play a full season in 2019-20.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 9, 2019

Reporting with @MarcJSpearsESPN: Free agent Marcus Morris -- who committed to a two-year, $20M Spurs deal w/ player option -- is re-considering agreement. Morris is now considering a free agent deal with Knicks, who'll have additional cap space with reworking of Bullock deal.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 9, 2019

When you're supposed to go to San Antonio but someone tells you about all the midrange shots available in NYC pic.twitter.com/23ZAVs5CAa

— TS% Eliot (@Cosmis) July 9, 2019

Are the Knicks actually getting another PF lmao.

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Originally Posted by PolishFan

Cousins may not be the same as in late 2017 but he shouldn’t be as bad as recently as he should get more healthy. I think y’all exaggerate a bit but I hope you are right :) I really don’t feel like defending them

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Yea Cousins should be much better next season having a full year under his belt. After both of my Achilles tears I got back to 100% normal or better around year 2. The Lakers are being under rated big time by some. They have done a very good job surrounding themselves with good players that compliment Lebron, AD, and Kuzma. What the Lakers can’t afford though is Lebron or AD getting injured. If one of those 2 go down that team could be in a little trouble. I think they will be very similar to our playoff team a year ago but a little better. The biggest issue they will have is the quality teams they will be playing near every night.

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

He is well worth a shot for them at such a small salary. He will have made $8.8 million in 2 seasons after turning down $40 million from us initially (and $12+ million for one year right before he chose to go to GS).

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For that salary he is a flat out steal. He is a steal at $10 million a year and they got him on a minimum. IMO no doubt they best player ever to be on a contract that cheap. If he stays healthy the weapons will have a real weapon in Boogie. He has put together some very solid minutes for the Warriors post Achilles injury and will only be better. I don’t think some understand how huge it is to have finished rehab and put a full season under their belt. A torn Achilles isn’t the career ending injury it was years ago. The advancements in surgery and rehab has come a long long way. He might not be the 25ppg Boogie again but they don’t need that. Boogie putting up 15ppg/10rpg on 50%+ FG and being a threat from 3pt is all they need and he has shown he can do that. He will be playing with 2 guys who compliment his game very well in Lebron and AD as well. I don’t see how anyone can even remotely question that signing which is a steal plain and simple.

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Originally Posted by Taker597

Really wish that they redesigned the jersey...

Idk anything looks better.

Maybe have a Pelican wing fanning across the front and back. Something better than these Jersey. L

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IMO.... we have among the worst jerseys in the league other than the red ones. Really wish they would redo the white and the blue jerseys.

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Originally Posted by HartOfaPelican

IMO.... we have among the worst jerseys in the league other than the red ones. Really wish they would redo the white and the blue jerseys.

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I wouldn't mind them swapping out the white ones with the ones in your avatar. Wear the red ones on the road. Change the New Orleans on the blues to gold Pelicans like the summer league practice jersey.

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Originally Posted by GuardianAngel25

For that salary he is a flat out steal. He is a steal at $10 million a year and they got him on a minimum. IMO no doubt they best player ever to be on a contract that cheap. If he stays healthy the weapons will have a real weapon in Boogie. He has put together some very solid minutes for the Warriors post Achilles injury and will only be better. I don’t think some understand how huge it is to have finished rehab and put a full season under their belt. A torn Achilles isn’t the career ending injury it was years ago. The advancements in surgery and rehab has come a long long way. He might not be the 25ppg Boogie again but they don’t need that. Boogie putting up 15ppg/10rpg on 50%+ FG and being a threat from 3pt is all they need and he has shown he can do that. He will be playing with 2 guys who compliment his game very well in Lebron and AD as well. I don’t see how anyone can even remotely question that signing which is a steal plain and simple.

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Achilles injury is the ultimate reason but not the only one. Poor conditioning has always been an issue for Boogie. Even if his injury is completely healed, he would have to compensate all the inactivity period. That seems unlikely because he has never been a hardworker. The second issue is his attitude. We shouldn't forget that last year he signed with the Warriors for cheap. He faced the worst trouble of his career and he chose to be carried. Locker room speeches are ok, but if your third best player is someone who drops responsibility on others, you will end up having problems. And the last issue is BBIQ. Even on his prime, Boogie took a lot of bad decisions on the court. Of course he was talented enough to take over any defender, but that's not the case anymore. I'm not sure if at this point he's able to become a smart player that maximizes his abilities and hide his weaknesses.

Warriors didn't make him any offer and they have watched him closer than anyone last year.

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Originally Posted by Imnos 2

I wouldn't mind them swapping out the white ones with the ones in your avatar. Wear the red ones on the road. Change the New Orleans on the blues to gold Pelicans like the summer league practice jersey.

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That would be a step in the right direction. My problem with the white and blue one are the graphics on the sides of them and on the shorts. Yuck!!

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Originally Posted by HartOfaPelican

IMO.... we have among the worst jerseys in the league other than the red ones. Really wish they would redo the white and the blue jerseys.

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My first time hearing someone describe the Pelicans jerseys as "among the worst in the league". Some complained about the small font on the front of them, but they fixed that a couple years ago.

Jerseys might not e considered among the best to some, but certainly not among the worst to me. :confused:

**I think the other poster was describing the summer league jerseys?

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Originally Posted by luckyman

My first time hearing someone describe the Pelicans jerseys as "among the worst in the league". Some complained about the small font on the front of them, but they fixed that a couple years ago.

Jerseys might not e considered among the best to some, but certainly not among the worst to me. :confused:

**I think the other poster was describing the summer league jerseys?

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I just want the earned jerseys to be our official jerseys now.

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Originally Posted by HartOfaPelican

IMO.... we have among the worst jerseys in the league other than the red ones. Really wish they would redo the white and the blue jerseys.

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now thats a first. I have to disagree ...all that California water must be affecting your vision good sir.

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Originally Posted by HartOfaPelican

IMO.... we have among the worst jerseys in the league other than the red ones. Really wish they would redo the white and the blue jerseys.

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I disagree if your from NOLA I don’t see how you couldn’t love them with the state flag colors and the lettering like the street signs in Nola I think they’re great .


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speaking of jerseys...

Let’s hope so, cause those look pretty good. https://t.co/MfUjZzUTSB

— Kevin Barrios (@kevinbforbounce) July 10, 2019

Did @NBA2K Just Accidentally Leak
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— Julez⚜Junta (@JulezJunta) July 10, 2019

Well, fear not, looks like there may be some jersey changes incoming

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Originally Posted by Pels4Life

speaking of jerseys...

Let’s hope so, cause those look pretty good. https://t.co/MfUjZzUTSB

— Kevin Barrios (@kevinbforbounce) July 10, 2019

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I don't think I like those. They look like a high school jersey (and seems to be closer to a Cavs type jersey).

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Originally Posted by Pels4Life

speaking of jerseys...

Let’s hope so, cause those look pretty good. https://t.co/MfUjZzUTSB

— Kevin Barrios (@kevinbforbounce) July 10, 2019

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I like them. I just hope we keep those earned jerseys though!

That collar is trash.

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Originally Posted by kinglio21093

I like them. I just hope we keep those earned jerseys though!

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yea earned jerseys are where its at.

Just out of curiosity, because I don't really care that much about jerseys (obviously I have my preferences but I've never found myself actively hating a jersey... except maybe those awful Cleveland ones with the blue and orange), what are your actual preferences?

Would you rather minimalist, or busy jerseys? Block colour (think the red jerseys) or something more artistic? Big numbers or small? What are your favourite jerseys in the league, and which are the ones you really dislike?

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

That collar is trash.

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Yep. It screams "when you have a game at 7pm and have a gig in your My Chemical Romance cover band at midnight".

those are gross IMO - but I'll live with anything.

Saw some saying they're probably just fan-made ones rather than actual 2K leaks, so if you hate them it might not end up mattering.

So the Clippers got 2 years to make something happen. Those lost draft picks go far beyond that. Thats rough.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...ear-clips-deal

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Kawhi Leonard has chosen a shorter contract with the LA Clippers that lines up with new teammate Paul George's and sets up the two to be part of the 2021 free-agent class, a source confirmed to ESPN.

Leonard signed a three-year, $103.1 million deal that includes a player option for the 2021-22 season, the source said. He will make $32.74 million next season, $34.37 million in 2020-21 and $36.01 million in the player-option season.

George's four-year, $136.9 million contract, signed with the Oklahoma City Thunder in the 2018 offseason, also includes a player option for 2021-22.

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Kawhi's taken the deal he has because in 2 years he gets to re-up for the 10 year contract he'll be eligible for. They want a ring immediately, of course, but Kawhi signing his deal the way he has isn't because he's already planning an exit.

Exactly. He's re-signing after 2 years. PG probably too

I love Kawhi as a player, but as a fan he can be quite aggravating. He didn’t want anything leaking to the media during his courtship from teams during free agency. I mean come on man, I can see not wanting some stuff leaked but absolutely nothing is being a little too much of a control freak IMO. As fans we would like to get to know our players a little bit, but this guy is like a secret agent lol.

As for the jerseys, I don’t have a problem with them. I didn’t think anyone had a problem with them to tell ya the truth. I like when they just say NOLA on the front of them. I like the minimal look like the Brooklyn Nets, just black & white. Golden State’s jerseys are ok, but there is a lot going on on the front of that jersey. I guess it just depends on the look. The Pelican fleur de lis looks pretty cool, so I don’t mind that being on at least one of the jerseys.

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Originally Posted by Pels4Life

now thats a first. I have to disagree ...all that California water must be affecting your vision good sir.

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Lol our water is 100% the worst on the country! So who knows... you might be right lol.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

That collar is trash.

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Agreed.

red uni's and shoes of the same color...."Put on your red shoes and dance the Blues"....