Who should become the first person to be drafted to the pelicans?

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

You draft BPA. Simple. Very simple. lol

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True but its not simple, say you have a PF ranked as 1a and a SF ranked at 1b on ur big board which one would u take? I'd have to go SF, point is if u have 2 players ranked the same u go need, and in this draft there is no clear dominant player

He is 6'6 with shoes on or off? :D

I wouldn't mind him here, but move him to 2 and keep Aminu in to take up for the def. that we will lack with Bazz in there.

bazz's defense isnt bad at all

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

True but its not simple, say you have a PF ranked as 1a and a SF ranked at 1b on ur big board which one would u take? I'd have to go SF, point is if u have 2 players ranked the same u go need, and in this draft there is no clear dominant player

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1a and 1b would designate there is some difference right? jk

I see your point, but I think I can clearly map out the top 10 without any doubt of ties.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

1a and 1b would designate there is some difference right? jk

I see your point, but I think I can clearly map out the top 10 without any doubt of ties.

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Haha i hear ya, whats ur top 10 big board then?

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

Haha i hear ya, whats ur top 10 big board then?

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Personally In 3 years which player would I want the most:

1. Smart
2. Mclemore
3. Burke
4. Muhammad
5. Porter
6. Oladipo
7. Noel
8. Bennett
9. Zeller
10. Carter-Williams

Was very easy. I actually had a hard time thinking of anyone worth the 10th pick. I sure hope we pick top 7 because the rest don't interest me, but I didnt feel like I had to debate much.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

bazz's defense isnt bad at all

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Didnt you say Al Jeffersons defense wasn't bad?

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

McNamara, is that you?

ALSO

You don't draft on need. You draft BPA 100% of the time. Assets are good to have.

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I agree about best player available, but I can see us winning to where we pick in the 7-10 range. That's all.

Also the Bazz love on this board is ridiculous. But I suspect where we pick we won't have a shot at him anyway.

So, maybe I'm a sourpuss. I like seeing us improve as a team and individually, but at the same time I want to get the tank on. We need that for our future. More of Monty's losing at the last moment magic would be nice.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Didnt you say Al Jeffersons defense wasn't bad?

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no that was slim i think

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Originally Posted by donato

So, maybe I'm a sourpuss. I like seeing us improve as a team and individually, but at the same time I want to get the tank on. We need that for our future. More of Monty's losing at the last moment magic would be nice.

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There is little separation in like the first 10 picks. There is talent here, but no high-end stuff. I wouldn't sweat it. Who we can get at 10 is about as talented as who we can get at 4.

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Originally Posted by Kibner

There is little separation in like the first 10 picks. There is talent here, but no high-end stuff. I wouldn't sweat it. Who we can get at 10 is about as talented as who we can get at 4.

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I understand what you are trying to say, but the reality of the draft situation is much different....you can believe that each franchise will have their version of separation between who they see at 4 and who they see at 10.....no matter how slight it might be and how they arrive at it

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Originally Posted by ramsters60

I understand what you are trying to say, but the reality of the draft situation is much different....you can believe that each franchise will have their version of separation between who they see at 4 and who they see at 10.....no matter how slight it might be and how they arrive at it

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You are still talking about players who look like they will be rotation players, at best. These guys compare more favorably to Aminu than Anderson.

From what I 've seen of the NCAA Tournament so far, Marcus Smart, Porter, Shabazz, McLemore, Zeller, Olafdipo, and Bennett did not shine. The player who looks the most ready for primetime is Trey Burke. A point guard like him is so important in today's NBA. Make it happen, Demps and Loomis!

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

Personally In 3 years which player would I want the most:

1. Smart
2. Mclemore
3. Burke
4. Muhammad
5. Porter
6. Oladipo
7. Noel
8. Bennett
9. Zeller
10. Carter-Williams

Was very easy. I actually had a hard time thinking of anyone worth the 10th pick. I sure hope we pick top 7 because the rest don't interest me, but I didnt feel like I had to debate much.

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No Len intop10?? I think many GMs disagree

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

You draft BPA. Simple. Very simple. lol

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No not true...especially in this draft...there are no players that r head n shoulders above the rest..if mclemore is there then yea he can go as bpa. The rest of these guys that are slotted from 2-6 are all in the same grade range. U don't draft a guy just cause his grade might be a hair above the guy u need for that position. That's just silly to think that way. I'll say it again. U draft bpa when that player is no doubt much better than the next guy and is a sure fire type of guy. Sorry none of those in this draft.

I don't care where we pick, I want Burke.

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

No not true...especially in this draft...there are no players that r head n shoulders above the rest..if mclemore is there then yea he can go as bpa. The rest of these guys that are slotted from 2-6 are all in the same grade range. U don't draft a guy just cause his grade might be a hair above the guy u need for that position. That's just silly to think that way. I'll say it again. U draft bpa when that player is no doubt much better than the next guy and is a sure fire type of guy. Sorry none of those in this draft.

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You draft for what a player might be in 3 years = BPA. I don't care what they can contribute day 1. I care if they will be a part of my championship run in 3 years, and I think you can clearly separate some prospects out that way.

Glen Robinson III is winning me over. He is playing so solid and he has been really efficient scoring so far this tournament.

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar

I don't care where we pick, I want Burke.

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Watch the game today eh? ;)

I just love the kid.

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar

I don't care where we pick, I want Burke.

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I truly believe he will be the best player in this draft.

Except 7 turnovers. Ouch

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Originally Posted by Shelbywmccarty

Except 7 turnovers. Ouch

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Gotta look at his career numbers. VCU is a heck of a swiping team on a big stage. His career ratio is very good.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

You draft for what a player might be in 3 years = BPA. I don't care what they can contribute day 1. I care if they will be a part of my championship run in 3 years, and I think you can clearly separate some prospects out that way.

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I agree I'm not saying that ain't true. Your missing my point here. This draft does not contain that type of player that u can say without a doubt they fit that bill over the next guy. At this point is guaranteed mclemore is going 1. After that there is not that discrepancy between the next 2-7 guys.

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

Gotta look at his career numbers. VCU is a heck of a swiping team on a big stage. His career ratio is very good.

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Absolutely. Burke is mr clutch. Lives for the big moment. I don't get the ppl who claim this kid to be slow. Lol..he is pretty darn quick. Not Parker or rose quick but def not slow by any means. Just nitpicking at this point to me. I'm all for drafting this kid. We need pg bad!!!! Next up would be sf which is safe to say we can upgrade in fawith all the cap room.

Just relaying this

@McNamara247: I see there is a lot of love for Trey Burke out there in Hornets land. Don't wanna be a Debbie Downer, but there is 0% chance Dell takes him

@McNamara247:
Hornets want to pressure the ball at the point of attack. Burke is an average athlete that will be a liability on D in NBA

@McNamara247: @MichaelHart912 I am willing to put my money where my mouth is. Wanna bet? I'll throw in Anthony Bennett too - 0% chance. Let's do this!


Interesting anyway

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

You draft for what a player might be in 3 years = BPA. I don't care what they can contribute day 1. I care if they will be a part of my championship run in 3 years, and I think you can clearly separate some prospects out that way.

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To predict where a player is gonna be in 3 years is a little off base also. You can't lay down a 3 year prediction plan on every prospect and draft off that. If that worked we would have a million psychics. You absolutely have to draft off current skills and contribution with some potential sprinkled on top especially when your drafting in top 5.

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Originally Posted by Shelbywmccarty

Just relaying this

@McNamara247: I see there is a lot of love for Trey Burke out there in Hornets land. Don't wanna be a Debbie Downer, but there is 0% chance Dell takes him

@McNamara247:
Hornets want to pressure the ball at the point of attack. Burke is an average athlete that will be a liability on D in NBA

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Never did pay any attention to that dude. He's a clown. Thinks he knows it all with no basketball background whatsoever n I'm not saying u have to have it but when u come at ppl like he does u would think so.

So far this tournament glen Robinson III
Game 1 - 21points 6rebounds
Game 2 - 14points 9rebounds

Liking him a lot if we wind up with a pick in the 6-9 range

The only PGs that are good defenders that I can think of are Rubio, Holliday, Westbrook, and maybe Rondo and Conley. There aren't many quality PGs that come out that are also good defenders. Yet, there are still teams that put out good or great defense with poor defenders at the PG position (i.e. healthy Howard, Garnett, Duncan teams).

Hell, the Suns competed for a while and they had both Nash and Amare playing heavy minutes. Granted, they were never better than average defensively but it should be obvious that PG defense does not count for much in the league today. I don't see why it should stop someone from drafting a PG high (ie: Lillard).

To have a terrific defense, you typically need one superb big man and one superb wing defender. Miami is kind of spoiled with James being able to do both along with Wade being able to guard most SGs and SFs. Along with Battier. And Bosh's help defense. They are a special team in many ways.

I am a fan of Burke but I did see something that concerns me. It seemed a few times he was trapped in the backcourt and couldn't get around or split, not comforting. I don't know if you contribute it to lack of speed or good defense or lack of an outlet. I don't know-just made me worry what pro athletes will do to him. Not writing him off, just noting the concern.

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

Gotta look at his career numbers. VCU is a heck of a swiping team on a big stage. His career ratio is very good.

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People were talking about watching the game and loving him. I just also noticed this about today's game.

That kid Harris on MSU will be a fast riser in a lot of teams boards. He is fundamentally sound and coached by Izzo for a year. Might be a Top 3 pick dependent on the team.

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Originally Posted by NOLa.

That kid Harris on MSU will be a fast riser in a lot of teams boards. He is fundamentally sound and coached by Izzo for a year. Might be a Top 3 pick dependent on the team.

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I love Harris idk why he isn't higher ranked he is a great player, very athletic and shoots a very nice 3 ball, he is only 6"4 but I don't see that as a problem, he is only 18 and doesn't turn 19 until September which means he has tons of potential.

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Originally Posted by Shelbywmccarty

Just relaying this

@McNamara247: I see there is a lot of love for Trey Burke out there in Hornets land. Don't wanna be a Debbie Downer, but there is 0% chance Dell takes him

@McNamara247:
Hornets want to pressure the ball at the point of attack. Burke is an average athlete that will be a liability on D in NBA

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I love the H247 guys. Idk why u guys on this board get so easily offended by everything. Its opinions, DaThrone is easily one of my favorite posters on here because the reactions he create lol

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Originally Posted by Silverfoxx

I love the H247 guys. Idk why u guys on this board get so easily offended by everything. Its opinions, DaThrone is easily one of my favorite posters on here because the reactions he create lol

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I cannot support actively rooting for your team to lose. Plain and simple.

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Originally Posted by Shelbywmccarty

Just relaying this

@McNamara247: I see there is a lot of love for Trey Burke out there in Hornets land. Don't wanna be a Debbie Downer, but there is 0% chance Dell takes him

@McNamara247:
Hornets want to pressure the ball at the point of attack. Burke is an average athlete that will be a liability on D in NBA

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Here's the thing. The Hornets/Pelicans don't play one-on-one defense. It's lots of hard hedging, traps, doubles, rotating from all 5 players. If they keep that style then being cat quick plays no role. If anything they want players capable of defending different positions and able to read passing lanes with long arms. Don't need to be turtle face (Westbrook) but Burke would seem quick enough for this style.

He can also help the defense by helping the offense be more efficient.

Olynick, what is the NBA to do with you? Are you Psycho T, or are you Jason Smith?

Any info on this kid Russ smith? He looks really nice.

I also like withey a lot he can flat out defend block shots and rebound and he can score good enough

Russ Smith from Louisville? He looks real. 6'0 junior. Having a solid tourney.

Blue is coming alive.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

Any info on this kid Russ smith? He looks really nice.

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You know he is JR Smith brother, I see a lot of JR in his game

My two real favorite players in the draft are Tim Hardaway Jr. and Larson if they come out. I know we will draft early and that would be a real reach for both players but maybe we can trade down and get those two guys (wishful thinking). Hardaway gives us a wing that can create his own shot and shot the 3 ball well, and Larson seems like a true floor general that can create his own shot (which is something most guys on the team lack). If I had to pick one player early in the draft I would say Shabazz because he seems like a legit scorer which we need.

I know people say that Bazz is a scorer. And that he has skills like Melo. But I don't see it.

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Originally Posted by Pelicans_fan_504

You know he is JR Smith brother, I see a lot of JR in his game

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Chris is JRs brother, Russ isn't related.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

I know people say that Bazz is a scorer. And that he has skills like Melo. But I don't see it.

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Melo is one of the greatest shooters the game has seen. He does not compare to Carmelo. Paul Pierce is who I compare him to.

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Originally Posted by Shelbywmccarty

@McNamara247: @MichaelHart912 I am willing to put my money where my mouth is. Wanna bet? I'll throw in Anthony Bennett too - 0% chance. Let's do this!


Interesting anyway

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That tweet was to me :hihi: