[Official - trade complete] Hornets Trying to Land RFA Lopez from the Suns {merged}

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

Sarcasm isn't translated well via internet. You don't know me, so I wouldn't expect you to understand.

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Actually, I think we all know you pretty well here. You've posted far more ridiculous trades that you thought were serious than this one, so I can't say how anyone would believe it was a joke.

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Originally Posted by 42

It's just the rules of trades, the needs of everyone, and the structure of the contracts. It would be fine if Miller's deal was able to be aggregated, a technical point.

Agreed about Landry fixing things . . . it doesn't.

I think the Warrick-Williams flip makes it all work, if Shamsports is right and hoopshype is wrong.

Everyone wants the deal to work just about as it is . . . the teams should be able to convince Charlotte to get involved.

Removing Dyson frees up more space for Minne, so they may be able to free up a pick to send to Charlotte, as Phoenix might since they are the only ones not parting with a pick in the deal. The teams can send up to $3m total to Charlotte (if they haven't gotten cash so far), which can pay for the difference in salary and give the ownership something for their trouble.

Both players are expiring forwards with about $1.5m difference in salary, and neither is anything to write home about.

I see it as plausible.

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Thanks for for all the difficult math work you did 42! Just wish you had the exact numbers to work with.

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Originally Posted by Smirk

Actually, I think we all know you pretty well here. You've posted far more ridiculous trades that you thought were serious than this one, so I can't say how anyone would believe it was a joke.

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This

I would think that if this does not get finalized very soon, Minnesota will pull out of the proposed deal and move Johnson to someone wanting to take on the salary in order to get AK47 signed. Today may be critical in getting this done or it falling apart completely.

I just can't stop thinking, why didn't Dell just sign Lopez to this same deal before we matched Gordon?

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Originally Posted by nolagoblue

I just can't stop thinking, why didn't Dell just sign Lopez to this same deal before we matched Gordon?

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Suns would've probably matched it without the trade, or he had other deals we was tring to work. Thats a good question tho.

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Originally Posted by nolagoblue

I just can't stop thinking, why didn't Dell just sign Lopez to this same deal before we matched Gordon?

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My guess is the Suns would have matched it, not to mention our collection of assets for a S&T were pretty different. At best we'd have been offering Jarret Jack's cap space in a 3way trade plus 2nds. This deal gets them the same cap space to dump Warrick, a late 1st, and a former top 5 pick even though he looks like a complete bust so far.

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Originally Posted by Smow-

Suns would've probably matched it without the trade, or he had other deals we was tring to work. Thats a good question tho.

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Yeah, he was probably working on something else. Dell keeps things very close to the vest. I bet this trade was leaked from either the Suns or Wolves side.

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Originally Posted by BP225

My guess is the Suns would have matched it, not to mention our collection of assets for a S&T were pretty different. At best we'd have been offering Jarret Jack's cap space in a 3way trade plus 2nds. This deal gets them the same cap space to dump Warrick, a late 1st, and a former top 5 pick even though he looks like a complete bust so far.

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I really like Lopez, but damn he isn't worth all of that. They are lucky Kahn is such an idiot.

glad this trade is finally done.

Jimmy Smith: hornets robin lopez acquisition complete. 2 minutes ago

Jimmy Smith: # Hornets also receive hakim warrick. 1 minute ago

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Originally Posted by Beelos

glad this trade is finally done.

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?????

Let's hear some more details there Jimmy...

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Originally Posted by HORNETSFAN

I would think that if this does not get finalized very soon, Minnesota will pull out of the proposed deal and move Johnson to someone wanting to take on the salary in order to get AK47 signed. Today may be critical in getting this done or it falling apart completely.

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You could be right, but it's not like they will get outbid for him. 10 million a year for him was a mistake when he was 5-6 years younger. What makes Kahn think he's worth that now?

Just read Demps will speak to the media at 2 pm about the acquisitions. Glad this is finally done!

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Originally Posted by Rocket Man

Just read Demps will speak to the media at 2 pm about the acquisitions. Glad this is finally done!

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YESSSS!!!!!!!

Wonder what the final deal was?

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Originally Posted by jhow0036

Jimmy Smith: hornets robin lopez acquisition complete. 2 minutes ago

Jimmy Smith: # Hornets also receive hakim warrick. 1 minute ago

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http://twitpic.com/show/large/2d9lpy

wondering what we gave up. Miller wasn't enough so I'm guessing X and Dyson are included in here somewhere.

John Gambadoro ‏@Gambo620
Deal had to be modified because pick Suns are getting via Memphis/Minn could turn into 3 mill & Suns already have received 3 mill from LA

John Gambadoro ‏@Gambo620
Under new CBA rules a team can not receive more than 3 million or pay out more than 3 million in any given year.

Official press release: http://www.nba.com/hornets/news/horn...arrick-phoenix

Finally :)

Glad thats over.

Finally a center!

Nola.com first said the Miller contract would now be going to the Suns instead of Minnesota and that was the only change. now their article doesn't mention that.

i'm so confused. what about the CBA issues we supposedly had with going over the cap? was that just incorrect info?

http://www.nola.com/hornets/index.ss..._river_default

whatever the problem was, i'm happy with the outcome. welcome lopez & warrick!

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Originally Posted by Vinny6420

Finally :)

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http://s3.amazonaws.com/readers/2011...digital5_1.jpg

someone tell me when did we get Brooklyn's 2nd?

Ok, by my rudimentary math, we will have about $10 mil available next year (includes us signing Miller and subtracts Dyson).

It could raise to $12 if the salary cap is raised to $60 as some expect it will.









Edited. Was trying to do it in my head originally and ran out of fingers, so first estimates were wrong.

Anybody have the exact deal?

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Originally Posted by bojangles837

someone tell me when did we get Brooklyn's 2nd?

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It was part of the deal for Brad Miller, I believe. We acquired two 2nd rounders in that deal and those are the picks we flipped to the Sunds here.

Here's the trade from the Hornets release:

The New Orleans Hornets announced today that they have acquired center Robin Lopez, forward Hakim Warrick, and cash considerations from the Phoenix Suns in exchange for guard Jerome Dyson, center Brad Miller and two 2nd round picks (Brooklyn’s 2013 second round selection and Minnesota’s 2016 second round draft choice) as part of a three-team trade along with the Minnesota Timberwolves. Phoenix receives Brad Miller and Jerome Dyson from the Hornets as well as Wesley Johnson and a 1st round pick from Minnesota. Minnesota receives Brooklyn’s 2013 2nd round pick and their own 2016 2nd round pick from New Orleans.

Per NBA.com http://www.nba.com/hornets/news/horn...arrick-phoenix

I believe Lopez will be our starting center and will show improvement from his previous seasons, given the minutes.

What great trade for Phoenix. Thank u eballa

John Gambadoro ‏@Gambo620
With 3-way trade now completed Suns turn attention to signing a backup center. Suns will have 14 mill in cap space for next season.

I found someone that agrees with me!!!! But dude their is a big long thread about this.

Finally!! Didn't have to review 50 page thread to get this answer.

:clap::thumbup::happy2::heartth::grphug:

:)

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Originally Posted by omalakas

Finally!! Didn't have to review 50 page thread to get this answer.

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THIS.

How is this trade any different from the previous one?

I understand why that first round pick was involved on Minnesota's part. Phoenix is taking back around 10mil in contracts to make this happen.

Great I was hoping this thing would get finalized. Welcome Lopez, Warrick and "cash considerations"!

I also think he will be starting, but hey....

I believed that this needed its own thread since its official now. Like omalakas pointed out it sucks having to scroll through a bunch of pages on another thread when the other thread was still in the process of the trade. Sry about double posting.

what kinda cash we talkin?

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

what kinda cash we talkin?

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I wish it was enough to buy out warrick, but that is just me dreaming.

It's not lol

The only thing that is different is that miller's contract is going to the suns. In the previous report he was going to minn, which I think we all knew isnt possible.

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Originally Posted by Who Dat Hornets

I believed that this needed its own thread since its official now. Like omalakas pointed out it sucks having to scroll through a bunch of pages on another thread when the other thread was still in the process of the trade. Sry about double posting.

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Nothing to be sorry about. The official post would have been buried in the 50 page thread and who knows when the title would have been updated. It's annoying, so thanks for posting this thread

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

what kinda cash we talkin?

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I think I read somewhere, 3 years 15 mil.

They are doing a press conference?

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBrow

I wish it was enough to buy out warrick, but that is just me dreaming.

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He is basically an expiring though

San Antonio is going to have a long night come Oct. 31st.

Dyson to Suns. Mayne pick is different.

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Originally Posted by TPDG22

San Antonio is going to have a long night come Oct. 31st.

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The Hive will be Rocking!