Who should become the first person to be drafted to the pelicans?

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

I don't think it does. He could back up Gordon at the 2 and come in at 3 in our 3 guard lineups. He can guard 3's.

Get a SF in the Gordon deal and we're good. Who, I have no idea :hihi:

I'm a BPA guy, I don't draft for spots (like we did last year some would say).

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Also I think we need to be drafting a guy that they believe can come in and contribute immediately in a starting role. This team is depleted of talent. No need to drafts guy that will be on the bench behind Gordon. IMO

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

I can bet you guys almost anything that won't be the case with Burke tonight.

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JINXED!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

Michigan better watch out lol...I hope u ain't jinx em purple haze with the BET U DON'T SEE THAT WITH BURKE. Comment..lol

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1/10

WELP :hihi:

WOAH that was bad. Burke hit his head on the court.

new big board
shabazz
noel
mclemore
porter
oladipo

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

new big board
shabazz
noel
mclemore
porter
oladipo

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Wait till the UCLA game :hihi:

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

Wait till the UCLA game :hihi:

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was just about to say that

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

Wait till the UCLA game :hihi:

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well regardless how he does for some reason ucla doesnt maximize their talent but i think shabazz has the potential to be a great 2 way SG or SF

Everybody is so quick to throw Smart out of their top 3, but it was one bad game. Jeez remember Kevin Durant? Also we have Austin Rivers if everyone forgot. Just wait until combine and up close workouts with team before casting him away. Oregon is a good team.

After watching Shabazz in that in the PAC 12 championship game he is #1 on my board the dude can score in so many ways

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Originally Posted by Pelicans_fan_504

After watching Shabazz in that in the PAC 12 championship game he is #1 on my board the dude can score in so many ways

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Pelicans are going to need an elite scoring machine

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Originally Posted by Pelicans_fan_504

After watching Shabazz in that in the PAC 12 championship game he is #1 on my board the dude can score in so many ways

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Man that's what I been saying! lol I haven't got a good chance to watch a complete game yet though. It would be awesome to have a player were you could just throw it to him and actually creates his own buckets.

Pelicans avoid no Bo aka UNLV Anthony Bennett.

Cal icing their free throw shooter?

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Originally Posted by Pelicans_fan_504

After watching Shabazz in that in the PAC 12 championship game he is #1 on my board the dude can score in so many ways

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thats what i'm saying, and he is also the youngest off all the prospects outside of noel, in 3 years shabazz will be the best player to come out this draft in my opinion, also he might be quick enough to defend guards but he is definetly quick and easily strong enough to defend small forward, plus i think he will grow a little bit, perfect small forward for us.

Bazz is like Melo in all the ways he can score.

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Originally Posted by AD23forMVP

Bazz is like Melo in all the ways he can score.

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ya, he has a post up game, high basketball IQ and soft touch around the rim, not to mention a silky smooth jumper, reminds me of a carmelo anthony/paul pierce mix.
He also has that body girth and strength like they do and good body balance in the air for contested and contact layups and dunks.
Also has that killer instinct that Kobe has, he is #1 on my board.

glenn robinson just KILLED IT! shrinks in big games u say? No he just showed up at the right time! Told yall this kid is gonna be a beast, next paul george w that athleticism and jumper and rebounding and D

If GR3 keeps playing like this throughout the tournament he will move into the top 5, if he can score like that along with his athleticism, defense and rebounding, plus he is only 18, wow

Guru, you are the quintessential over reactor.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

Guru, you are the quintessential over reactor.

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Pahahahaha sorry guru but its true man.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

glenn robinson just KILLED IT! shrinks in big games u say? No he just showed up at the right time! Told yall this kid is gonna be a beast, next paul george w that athleticism and jumper and rebounding and D

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I sense a forthcoming change of the big board.....

Well i wouldn't call it over reacting ive just been watching this kid all year and saw all the tools and was waiting for him to put it together and i knew he would cuz he is so young and people constantly told me he was trash, i really think this kid is the next paul george in 3-4 years, just saying :)

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Pahahahaha sorry guru but its true man.

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Gr3 is pretty damn talented though... I could see him moving into the 10th or 9th spot. His problem is that he was playing too passively before. He has to have a monster tournament for a top ten pick though.

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Originally Posted by JJackisangry

Gr3 is pretty damn talented though... I could see him moving into the 10th or 9th spot. His problem is that he was playing too passively before. He has to have a monster tournament for a top ten pick though.

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Well I think if he has a monster tournament while being that young it would move him up a little higher than 10, i'd say top 7-8 for sure. we shall see! sorry im just so excited for this offseason!

People say this is a weak draft, but I don't see it they are so many players I wouldn't mine having. The only player I want no part of is that Len kid from Maryland

Am I the ONLY one who looks at it as a bad thing when such and such player is 18-19? I do not want another 19 year old. These are the same guys who freak out when we lose and they just wonder why oh why? Oh it must be Monty.

Burke
Oladipo
Porter

Which players have more possibilities to be a Pelican next year? Im not a nig fan of NCAA but I want know better our future Pelican.

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Originally Posted by popinho

Which players have more possibilities to be a Pelican next year? Im not a nig fan of NCAA but I want know better our future Pelican.

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There's a really good thread about that around here somewhere.

:D

Did Monty ever play with Glenn Robinson? Or has Demps? The more I look at a better perimeter shooting, more efficient DeMar DeRozan in Glenn Robinson the more I like him. And we need that offense. Don't know how good he is creating his shot yet though.

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Originally Posted by AD23forMVP

Bazz is like Melo in all the ways he can score.

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You have my attention. :ezbill:

Please elaborate.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

Well i wouldn't call it over reacting ive just been watching this kid all year and saw all the tools and was waiting for him to put it together and i knew he would cuz he is so young and people constantly told me he was trash, i really think this kid is the next paul george in 3-4 years, just saying :)

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He doesn't mean it in a bad way, but you do it's funny. :hihi: Things happen and you automatically react with a new big board or paul george comparisons. :hihi: It's fun imo keeps the board moving

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

You have my attention. :ezbill:

Please elaborate.

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He can just score in every way, much like Melo or Paul Pierce.

He can get out in transition, or he can score in the half court. He can take you off the dribble with his first step, he can take you into the post, he can spot up, he can come off screens, you can iso him, he collects offensive boards, he can pull up off the bounce. He can just do it all. Take a look at the video below.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=9028710

In other words he can just get his own buckets in a way we've scarcely had.

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Originally Posted by AD23forMVP

He can just score in every way, much like Melo or Paul Pierce.

He can get out in transition, or he can score in the half court. He can take you off the dribble with his first step, he can take you into the post, he can spot up, he can come off screens, you can iso him, he collects offensive boards, he can pull up off the bounce. He can just do it all. Take a look at the video below.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=9028710

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It makes me wonder why this board was so disinterested with him. Sure hes not always the most graceful, but hes really versatile. I can only imagine how hed play with a better supporting cast.

I am a Michigan fan and I have been waiting on this Glenn Robinson for years, but more often than not Burke had o take over games because Robinson III was nowhere to be found in the crunch. But it was nice to see him step up yesterday, but that is far from a trend and not to be expected all the time.

Bazz hasn't been playing with chopped liver. Adams and Wear have been solid all season, but get less pub because they play with Bazz. Dude is good, but he isn't Melo, unless your talking malcontent or something. Watch today what happens vs Minnesota. He will have a fun matchup with Hollins (which he should dominate). Watch as he doesn't have Adams to defer the scoring to. Can he take over and win this game?

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

Well i wouldn't call it over reacting ive just been watching this kid all year and saw all the tools and was waiting for him to put it together and i knew he would cuz he is so young and people constantly told me he was trash, i really think this kid is the next paul george in 3-4 years, just saying :)

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So one good game makes him Paul George? lol

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

Well I think if he has a monster tournament while being that young it would move him up a little higher than 10, i'd say top 7-8 for sure. we shall see! sorry im just so excited for this offseason!

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I definitely think that is possible for him. I don't see him getting anywhere past #8 at best case scenario.

Also, I'm tempering expectations for this offseason. Monty and Dell have consistently said it's a "long" process to building a contender. I really don't see players on the market that are must have guys.

My expectation for next year is eighth seed. A first round series win for the season after that.

I don't think we're a playoff team next year either. You don't go worst 4-> worst 5-> playoffs typically.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

I don't think we're a playoff team next year either. You don't go worst 4-> worst 5-> playoffs typically.

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OKC went from 2nd worst to 4th worst to the 8th seed (at 50-32). Granted, this was Durant's 3rd season and Westbrook's 2nd when they won 50 games.

If Davis turns into what he's projected to be... this will be a playoff contender next year.

So, it looks like Shabazz is 20 and not 19. That sucks.

http://www.latimes.com/news/columnon...3186.htmlstory

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Originally Posted by iNolaNightmare

Am I the ONLY one who looks at it as a bad thing when such and such player is 18-19? I do not want another 19 year old. These are the same guys who freak out when we lose and they just wonder why oh why? Oh it must be Monty.

Burke
Oladipo
Porter

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http://www.latimes.com/news/columnon...3186.htmlstory

Well, Shabazz is apparently 20 :hihi:

Not many players in this draft I'd love to have, but also not many I'd be disappointed in having. No Len is all I ask.

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Originally Posted by bradael

OKC went from 2nd worst to 4th worst to the 8th seed (at 50-32). Granted, this was Durant's 3rd season and Westbrook's 2nd when they won 50 games.

If Davis turns into what he's projected to be... this will be a playoff contender next year.

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It's less about Davis and more about Gordon. I also said typically. The Thunder are a model franchise, but they were pretty flawless in their execution and basically started off with a clean slate. We had to rid ourselves of Okafor, Ariza and such.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

It's less about Davis and more about Gordon. I also said typically. The Thunder are a model franchise, but they were pretty flawless in their execution and basically started off with a clean slate. We had to rid ourselves of Okafor, Ariza and such.

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We are also started with more pieces. It's different, but we should be fighting for a playoff spot next season. I'm unsure of it we actually make it, but we should be in the hunt come april next year.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

We are also started with more pieces. It's different, but we should be fighting for a playoff spot next season. I'm unsure of it we actually make it, but we should be in the hunt come april next year.

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Not saying we won't be fighting for one. Just saying I don't think we get one. Jazz could fall if they trade Milsaps and Lose Jefferson. Dallas should be better. Portland should be better. Minn should be better. And I'd say the top OKC, SA, Memphis, Clippers, Lakers (Depending on DH12), Nuggets, Nuggets, Rockets are pretty locked in. That leaves everyone else to fight for 1 spot.

didnt say he was paul george, i said i can see him becoming the next paul george since their games are almost identical, athletic, can hit the 3, rebound, defend, cant really create for themselves.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

So one good game makes him Paul George? lol



I definitely think that is possible for him. I don't see him getting anywhere past #8 at best case scenario.

Also, I'm tempering expectations for this offseason. Monty and Dell have consistently said it's a "long" process to building a contender. I really don't see players on the market that are must have guys.

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Paul George is 6"10 though...unless you expect GR3 grow 4 inches..

Lakers are already old and slow this year. It will be even worse next year even if Dwight Howard does return. There are some pretty big question marks on some of those other teams as well.

It's certainly no guarantee, but I do think that this team contends for a playoff spot next year barring any major injuries. OKC is one of the few teams I think you can really compare this team to anyway. Trading away / losing star players (Chris Paul & David West / Ray Allen & Rashard Lewis), getting lucky in the lottery to draft a superstar prospect (Anthony Davis / Kevin Durant), and putting a star caliber guard next to him (Eric Gordon / Russell Westbrook).

Then again... everything went OKC's way in terms of player growth & injuries. The exact opposite happened for Portland in regards to Roy & Oden.

I think the core pieces are already here with the potential to add another one depending where we land in the lottery. Vasquez & Lopez I believe will be traded within a year and a half and it's likely one of them is gone this summer (Vasquez IMO unless the team lands McLemore, then I think they try to trade Gordon).

It's really tough to judge players because of how they could grow. People like to throw out ages, but I think how long someone has been in college makes the biggest difference. Otto Porter will probably be picked ahead of Shabazz Muhammad, but if you put them on equal ground Bazz would probably go before Porter. Porter averaged 16 ppg on 49% shooting as a Sophomore, where Shabazz averaged 18 ppg on 45% shooting as a Freshman. You put Sophomore Shabazz against Sophomore Porter, who do you think gets picked first? Porter wasn't really even on anyones radar until he got a summer to grow. Same thing goes for a guy like Oladipo, except he had two summers. You put Junior Gary Harris against Junior Victor Oladipo, who's being picked first? You can also throw Marcus Smart in there, he may only be shooting 41% this season, but you give him a year and where would he be as a Sophomore? Trey Burke only shot 43% as a Freshman.