In fairness to the Hornets, what success looks like for every team is different.
The reality is that they've been god-awful for years now. Even when Kemba was there. In the last decade they've won more than 40 games only twice, in the East. For comparison, they've had 3 seasons with fewer than 30 wins in that time. They're just awful, have been awful for ages, it's bad.
For them, they've got some good players now. They have PJ Washington, they've just drafted someone they hope can be special in LaMelo, they have Miles Bridges and Malik Monk and Devonte' Graham.
Adding Hayward, they're very possibly a playoff team this year. Just achieving that for a couple of seasons is probably a big win for them, and it gives their fans reason to watch, and by the time they have to extend Washington and (possibly) Ball if he ends up being good, Hayward's deal will be expiring.
No, paying Hayward essentially $40m a year is not good. But for them, with nobody going there otherwise, it's that or miss the playoffs for another 5 years arguably, so I get it.
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11-21-2020, 04:26 PMPelicanidae
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11-21-2020, 04:30 PMAusPelWith any luck Batum will be off the books by thenQuote:
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11-21-2020, 04:54 PMDaPelFromHellHow else were the Hornets going to get Hayward to come there? They are just trying to fill the arena and become relevant which they haven?t been since the 90s pretty much unless you count their time with us using the team name. They banking on Hayward becoming healthy again and being a fringe All Star. If he didn?t have those concerns he?s likely on a much better team. I don?t blame them whatsoever. I bet the fans don?t care all that much either. It?s probably the first time they have been excited about their team in a really long time. Hopefully Ball works out for them and isn?t another bust. PJ Washington looks to be a player. Graham looks to be a find they got in the 2nd round. Hopefully Miles Bridges can live up more to expectations. MJ may have finally got them a team to make a playoff run.Quote:
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11-21-2020, 04:55 PMPelicanidae
Denver has pulled the qualifying offer on forward Torrey Craig, which allows him to become an unrestricted free agent, source tells ESPN. The Nuggets have valued Craig, but ran out of roster spots for him.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 21, 2020
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11-21-2020, 05:00 PMDaPelFromHellLet’s get him. A few free agent sites have him behind Melo & BI as the best small forward left on the market.Quote:
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Here is his highlights from last year which are all defense cause he’s terrible on offense. He’s just a slasher.
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11-21-2020, 05:07 PMAusPel
OK Griff, now's your time to shine
Let's go live to Griff's hotel room now to get an update from the busy man.
The door's open, let's go in
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11-21-2020, 05:26 PMDaPelFromHell
The Hawks have made some moves, but they had to spend that money.
C: Capela, Okongwu
PF: Collins, Fernando
SF: Gallinari, Hunter, Snell
SG: Huerter, Reddish, Mays
PG: Young, Rondo, Dunn
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11-21-2020, 05:28 PMPelicanidae
Rozier unfollowed the Hornets on Instagram and posted a strange Insta-Story. More to come.
— Filippo ���������� (@BarresiFilippo4) November 21, 2020
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11-21-2020, 05:33 PMAusPelHEY GRIQuote:
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11-21-2020, 05:34 PMTaker597
It's really an end of an Era for the Spurs. I guess all those FO poaching has really caught up to them. They fallen off so hard since trading Leonard.
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11-21-2020, 05:35 PMozwego15
Is Rozier part of a S&T for Hayward?
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11-21-2020, 05:37 PMAusPelGordy got signed into capspaceQuote:
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11-21-2020, 05:37 PMhornetzplayaRozier is a superstar??? Wow I never knew that!Quote:
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11-21-2020, 06:01 PMozwego15
The Golden State Warriors have applied for the Disabled Player Exception worth $9.3M due to the season-ending loss of Klay Thompson, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.
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11-21-2020, 06:35 PMmsusousaphoneYou've been in a frisky mood, lately. I like it. LolQuote:
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11-21-2020, 07:00 PMPelicanidae
Free agent center Tristan Thompson has reached an agreement with the Boston Celtics, his agent @RichPaul4 of @KlutchSports tells Yahoo Sports.
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11-21-2020, 07:01 PMPelicanidae
Free agent Kentavious Caldwell-Pope has agreed to a three-year, $40M deal with the Lakers, Klutch Sports CEO Rich Paul tells @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.
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11-21-2020, 07:02 PMPelicanidae
Free agent Wes Iwundu is close to a deal with the Dallas Mavericks, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.
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11-21-2020, 07:04 PMPelicanidae
Just wanna say, the Lakers have improved a lot this offseason. No stars or true individual difference makers, but retaining KCP, adding Wes Matthews, and sticking Montrezl on the bench is good for them. I don't actually think Montrezl or Schroeder raise their ceiling for the playoffs much, but I do think they take a lot of regular season pressure off Lebron and AD, which still helps.
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11-21-2020, 08:07 PMJimmieZ
Where can I find a list of the G-league shooter's and wings? Asking for a friend.
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11-21-2020, 08:19 PMluckyman
FYI...Antonio Daniels has his own show on Sirius NBA Radio called Give and Go. Every weekday at noon CDT.
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11-21-2020, 08:53 PMozwego15
Free agent G Brad Wanamaker has agreed to a one-year, $2.25M deal to join the Golden State Warriors, his agent Steve McCaskill tells ESPN. Wanamaker played a productive role with Celtics – and now’s expected to see some significant minutes as Steph Curry’s backup.
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11-21-2020, 08:54 PMozwego15
Free agent C Nerlens Noel has agreed to a one-year deal with the New York Knicks, sources tell ESPN.
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11-21-2020, 08:55 PMozwego15
The Celtics will sign Jeff Teague to a one-year deal, according to a league source.
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11-21-2020, 10:07 PMAs I See It
Kind of surprised E'Twaun has had no published bites