Who should become the first person to be drafted to the pelicans?

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Originally Posted by Heavy

since when does failing out and being academically ineligible = red shirt?

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That's what he's classified as, not sure what to tell you.

And honestly that's better than a medical redshirt for us. I could care less that the kid failed out. He's killing it now.

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Originally Posted by AD23forMVP

Only had to read one sentence before I came up on the first thing you were wrong in.

Anthony Davis shoots 71% at the rim, Drummond shoots 67% at the rim.

Anthony Davis converts on 91% of his dunks, Drummond converts on 90% of his dunks.

Anthony Davis converts 52% of his layups, Drummond converts 49% of his layups.

Anthony Davis has gotten his shot blocked every 17 attempts, Andre Drummond gets his shot blocked every 15 attempts.

Anthony Davis converts a and one on 6% of his shots, Andre Drummond converts a and one on 3% of his shots.

Do I have to keep going? Keep in mind that Drummond has 50lbs on Davis as well.

And last but not least, since you mentioned how Drummond has a hook. Anthony Davis shoots 55% on his hook shots, Drummond shots 11% (yes 11%). That's some hook shot he has there...

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Originally Posted by AD23forMVP

Only had to read one sentence before I came up on the first thing you were wrong in.

Anthony Davis shoots 71% at the rim, Drummond shoots 67% at the rim.

Anthony Davis converts on 91% of his dunks, Drummond converts on 90% of his dunks.

Anthony Davis converts 52% of his layups, Drummond converts 49% of his layups.

Anthony Davis has gotten his shot blocked every 17 attempts, Andre Drummond gets his shot blocked every 15 attempts.

Anthony Davis converts a and one on 6% of his shots, Andre Drummond converts a and one on 3% of his shots.

Do I have to keep going? Keep in mind that Drummond has 50lbs on Davis as well.

And last but not least, since you mentioned how Drummond has a hook. Anthony Davis shoots 55% on his hook shots, Drummond shots 11% (yes 11%). That's some hook shot he has there...

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Wow.

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Originally Posted by AD23forMVP

Only had to read one sentence before I came up on the first thing you were wrong in.

Anthony Davis shoots 71% at the rim, Drummond shoots 67% at the rim.

Anthony Davis converts on 91% of his dunks, Drummond converts on 90% of his dunks.

Anthony Davis converts 52% of his layups, Drummond converts 49% of his layups.

Anthony Davis has gotten his shot blocked every 17 attempts, Andre Drummond gets his shot blocked every 15 attempts.

Anthony Davis converts a and one on 6% of his shots, Andre Drummond converts a and one on 3% of his shots.

Do I have to keep going? Keep in mind that Drummond has 50lbs on Davis as well.

And last but not least, since you mentioned how Drummond has a hook. Anthony Davis shoots 55% on his hook shots, Drummond shots 11% (yes 11%). That's some hook shot he has there...

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dont forget FT's lol

daThrone u have been deThroned.
AD23 just deandre jordan brandon knighted you.

daThrone is textbook uneducated fan. Do a little research before you make statements like that. My god.
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Wow one of those Ball Don't Lie moments.

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Originally Posted by Heavy

meh? not showing up to a court date could be the biggest red-flag there is. Sort of indicates that they don't think the law applies to them...or being above-the-law. Bad news. We have to be careful who we select to grow with AD.... it has to be right.

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The answer is still "Meh." Extrapolate a circumstance you are only second handedly at best familiar with if you choose. I'm not worrying about that. Too much gets made of stuff like this as if our players are formative children and a bad influence can and will corrupt them.

Meh.

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Originally Posted by AD23forMVP

Only had to read one sentence before I came up on the first thing you were wrong in.

Anthony Davis shoots 71% at the rim, Drummond shoots 67% at the rim.

Anthony Davis converts on 91% of his dunks, Drummond converts on 90% of his dunks.

Anthony Davis converts 52% of his layups, Drummond converts 49% of his layups.

Anthony Davis has gotten his shot blocked every 17 attempts, Andre Drummond gets his shot blocked every 15 attempts.

Anthony Davis converts a and one on 6% of his shots, Andre Drummond converts a and one on 3% of his shots.

Do I have to keep going? Keep in mind that Drummond has 50lbs on Davis as well.

And last but not least, since you mentioned how Drummond has a hook. Anthony Davis shoots 55% on his hook shots, Drummond shots 11% (yes 11%). That's some hook shot he has there...

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BOOMSHOCKALACKA! I'm sure a "Those are just stats, you have to watch the games" or something like that is coming though :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by AD23forMVP

Only had to read one sentence before I came up on the first thing you were wrong in.

Anthony Davis shoots 71% at the rim, Drummond shoots 67% at the rim.

Anthony Davis converts on 91% of his dunks, Drummond converts on 90% of his dunks.

Anthony Davis converts 52% of his layups, Drummond converts 49% of his layups.

Anthony Davis has gotten his shot blocked every 17 attempts, Andre Drummond gets his shot blocked every 15 attempts.

Anthony Davis converts a and one on 6% of his shots, Andre Drummond converts a and one on 3% of his shots.

Do I have to keep going? Keep in mind that Drummond has 50lbs on Davis as well.

And last but not least, since you mentioned how Drummond has a hook. Anthony Davis shoots 55% on his hook shots, Drummond shots 11% (yes 11%). That's some hook shot he has there...

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This isn't apples to apples. These guys play two different position and don't get equal time and oppurunities to score. This doesn't factor in contested shots or assisted baskets. And the numbers are still close (except for the hook numbers) I clearly said as good as or better.

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Originally Posted by Mr. West

BOOMSHOCKALACKA! I'm sure a "Those are just stats, you have to watch the games" or something like that is coming though :rolleyes:

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That's just common sense. Vasquez has more assist than Chris Paul this year is GV>CP3 I think not.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

This isn't apples to apples. These guys play two different position and don't get equal time and oppurunities to score. This doesn't factor in contested shots or assisted baskets. And the numbers are still close (except for the hook numbers) I clearly said as good as or better.

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I'm not the most educated basketball fan but, dang. I'd have just left it alone if I were you.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

I'm not the most educated basketball fan but, dang. I'd have just left it alone if I were you.

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But you aren't me.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

But you aren't me.

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That's true. I was trying to save you embarrassment. Carry on, I actually find it amusing.

I've got a question for everyone though. I've heard good and bad on Smart. Some saying he's legit and some saying not. What's the general consensus on him? Personally his measurables make he really like the prospect of him at the point.

I really wish I could believe in my own opinion so much that even after people prove me wrong time and time again I STILL believe in my opinion. I'll give da throne that.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

That's true. I was trying to save you embarrassment. Carry on, I actually find it amusing.

I've got a question for everyone though. I've heard good and bad on Smart. Some saying he's legit and some saying not. What's the general consensus on him? Personally his measurables make he really like the prospect of him at the point.

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You don't ever have to worry about saving me from anything. I'm an adult I've never been embarrassed to speak my opinions.

So you think being slightly ahead in a few categories means Davis is better on a partial year basis? Stats don't tell the whole story. They are a good reference point. However like I stated we can go through stat this year alone and guys who are scrubs could have higher %'s than stud players it happens. There are so many varibles not factored in to those numbers that they can't be all telling.

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Originally Posted by AD23forMVP

Only had to read one sentence before I came up on the first thing you were wrong in.

Anthony Davis shoots 71% at the rim, Drummond shoots 67% at the rim.

Anthony Davis converts on 91% of his dunks, Drummond converts on 90% of his dunks.

Anthony Davis converts 52% of his layups, Drummond converts 49% of his layups.

Anthony Davis has gotten his shot blocked every 17 attempts, Andre Drummond gets his shot blocked every 15 attempts.

Anthony Davis converts a and one on 6% of his shots, Andre Drummond converts a and one on 3% of his shots.

Do I have to keep going? Keep in mind that Drummond has 50lbs on Davis as well.

And last but not least, since you mentioned how Drummond has a hook. Anthony Davis shoots 55% on his hook shots, Drummond shots 11% (yes 11%). That's some hook shot he has there...

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Originally Posted by AD23forMVP

I really wish I could believe in my own opinion so much that even after people prove me wrong time and time again I STILL believe in my opinion. I'll give da throne that.

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LOL once again clearly based on your logic Vasquez is a top 5 PG. Stats don't tell the whole story. So nobody has "proved" anything.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

But you aren't me.

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Dude...answer this for me. If Drummond is as good as you say he is, why no teams took a chance on him until pick 9? What did they not see in him that you do? Because if he is as talented as you say he is he would have been taken top 5. 8 professional scouts passed on him, for what reason? If the Hornets passed on Davis, do you think he would've lasted to the 9th pick? But Drummond is more talented you say?

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

You don't ever have to worry about saving me from anything. I'm an adult I've never been embarrassed to speak my opinions.

So you think being slightly ahead in a few categories means Davis is better on a partial year basis? Stats don't tell the whole story. They are a good reference point. However like I stated we can go through stat this year alone and guys who are scrubs could have higher %'s than stud players it happens. There are so many varibles not factored in to those numbers that they can't be all telling.

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Don't waste your arguments on me. I don't care. I'd rather talk about who we'll draft first.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

LOL once again clearly based on your logic Vasquez is a top 5 PG. Stats don't tell the whole story. So nobody has "proved" anything.

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At this point it just seems like you'd rather keep making asinine statements like Drummond has guard skills, a jumper, and a hook shot (which he clearly does not have any of those three), rather than admitting how wrong you have been in the past. That's ok though, I went through a time where I had trouble admitting I was wrong as well, maybe one day you'll move past that. And the "stats" say Greivis is a below average PG, and we've talked about that to length on this board, not sure where you have been.

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Originally Posted by AD23forMVP

At this point it just seems like you'd rather keep making asinine statements like Drummond has guard skills, a jumper, and a hook shot (which he clearly does not have any of those three), rather than admitting how wrong you have been in the past. That's ok though, I went through a time where I had trouble admitting I was wrong as well, maybe one day you'll move past that. And the "stats" say Greivis is a below average PG, and we've talked about that to length on this board, not sure where you have been.

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Thanks for your statements lately. I've grown weary .

I'm over it as well.

I've done alot of stupid things drunk. But I have never ever been so drunk that I would ever say Drummond is better than Davis.

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Originally Posted by AD23forMVP

At this point it just seems like you'd rather keep making asinine statements like Drummond has guard skills, a jumper, and a hook shot (which he clearly does not have any of those three), rather than admitting how wrong you have been in the past. That's ok though, I went through a time where I had trouble admitting I was wrong as well, maybe one day you'll move past that. And the "stats" say Greivis is a below average PG, and we've talked about that to length on this board, not sure where you have been.

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And you ignore the fact that stats aren't the end all be all. If I told you Kobe had a deadly jumper after his first year when he was air balling shots or that KG had an unstoppable game when he struggled his rookie year people would point to stats. It's not stats it skillsets that usually provails. Drummond skillset is there the stats will likely follow.

There's no changing any pro Davis people's minds here and I'm sold on Drummond we can all agree to disagree. I'm sure this debate will spark up often as both players careers progress.

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Originally Posted by carpo_07

I've done alot of stupid things drunk. But I have never ever been so drunk that I would ever say Drummond is better than Davis.

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He has maintained a higher PER(which I'm not a huge fan of) all season and have been ahead of Davis on several rookie grading sites.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

But you aren't me.

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Post of the week by far.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

He has maintained a higher PER(which I'm not a huge fan of) all season and have been ahead of Davis on several rookie grading sites.

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Lol you guys need to take it easy on Da Throne....The dude has some points sometimes, but he doesn't really convey or/and follow them up smoothly.

And Oladipo is moving up my board as I watch his highlights. The guy has ridiculous athleticism and a will that's so strong, it's a lil bit scary at times lol

Man, I really thought the Davis vs Drummond debate was put to rest after last years draft. Dont feed the troll. Even if you feed him cold hard facts, he'll continue to do what he does.

Let's look forward to the 2013 draft.

I haven't really like oladipo till now. I get mkg visions of him. But

Oladipo is the most efficient wing scorer in college basketball this year. He is more polished than MKG

Hngh. BJ Young. I see you. Time to do a lil research.

Smart is NOT helping his case with me in this game. Almost 0 impact in the biggest game of his life so far.

8 points, 5 rebounds, 4 TOs. While being guarded by a 5'8" guy half the time.

I can bet you guys almost anything that won't be the case with Burke tonight.

Man I'm officially off the smart wagon!!! Bye bye

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

I can bet you guys almost anything that won't be the case with Burke tonight.

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Im right there with u bro. Smart is not impressing me at all. I do not want him. Burke,porter,bazz n of course 1st mclemore ..I'm half way thre with Bennett n Len also.

I've got southern on my bracket with espn tourney challenge!!! C'mon southern!!!!!

Smart's had an even worse second half. Pushing everything, not at all taking the game over like I was lead to believe. I know this is a good Oregon team but no thanks. Not at 5 or under.

I'm psyched to watch Burke and Bennett tonight...will have them double screened on my 55' with my direct tv genie

Man I'd roll with Rivers 100X before Smart after watching that train wreck.

Give me Porter or Oladipo please if they don't take Burke.

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

Man I'd roll with Rivers 100X before Smart after watching that train wreck.

Give me Porter or Oladipo please if they don't take Burke.

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I'm right there wit u except that I'd rather bazz than oladipo rt now cuz I feel we need to fill that sf spot with some scoring. Oladipo means bye Gordon and I'm not sure I'm willing to make that trade off.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Hngh. BJ Young. I see you. Time to do a lil research.

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He's a 6"3 combo guard, super quick, good jumpshot, good enough passer, very athletic. A natural scorer and very explosive. Also good defender because of his great athleticism. Can score in bunches, he reminds me of a poor man's westbrook, he is really good and would love to get him in the early 2nd round

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

I'm right there wit u except that I'd rather bazz than oladipo rt now cuz I feel we need to fill that sf spot with some scoring. Oladipo means bye Gordon and I'm not sure I'm willing to make that trade off.

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I don't think it does. He could back up Gordon at the 2 and come in at 3 in our 3 guard lineups. He can guard 3's.

Get a SF in the Gordon deal and we're good. Who, I have no idea :hihi:

I'm a BPA guy, I don't draft for spots (like we did last year some would say).

i'd love to draft bazz or porter and then bj young in the 2nd.

Where are we getting this magical 2nd guys? ;)

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

Where are we getting this magical 2nd guys? ;)

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We'll probably trade away Vasquez, Gordon, and Lopez away for scraps and a 2nd round pick, right?

I can't tell if you're being factitious or not :hihi:

Michigan better watch out lol...I hope u ain't jinx em purple haze with the BET U DON'T SEE THAT WITH BURKE. Comment..lol

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

I don't think it does. He could back up Gordon at the 2 and come in at 3 in our 3 guard lineups. He can guard 3's.

Get a SF in the Gordon deal and we're good. Who, I have no idea :hihi:

I'm a BPA guy, I don't draft for spots (like we did last year some would say).

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I agree with the bpa only when there is a marginal difference tho. This years draft after mclemore there is not a big bpa argument to be made between the guys we are all debating on. So u have to go need I believe.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

We'll probably trade away Vasquez, Gordon, and Lopez away for scraps and a 2nd round pick, right?

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Yea if we can get a 2nd round pick I'd trade away all of those guys. ;)