Free Agency Thread

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Huh? Cap room? We are over the cap. I think you may have misunderstood them.

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Maybe he meant counting our exceptions. The Wolves only have the Room level Exception and BAE now unless I missed when they used one of those already.

We have the MLE and BAE. That'd be more money.

Trade for Bledsoe. Sign Young and Lawson. Call it an off-season.

C'mon Dell.

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Originally Posted by pelicanchamp

I have a credible sauce from the front office saying we are very very likely to sign nick young any day now. More playing time and more money matters. If we get young I will be excited.


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Did your sauce mention any trades brewing, perhaps for one Eric Bledsoe?

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Originally Posted by WhyHornetsWhy

Trade for Bledsoe. Sign Young and Lawson. Call it an off-season.

C'mon Dell.

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That would be an awesome off-season. Especially if we could bring back Cunningham as well.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Maybe he meant counting our exceptions. The Wolves only have the Room level Exception and BAE now unless I missed when they used one of those already.

We have the MLE and BAE. That'd be more money.

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Did you get a chance to read the article? It's on thebirdwrites.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Maybe he meant counting our exceptions. The Wolves only have the Room level Exception and BAE now unless I missed when they used one of those already.

We have the MLE and BAE. That'd be more money.

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Apparently MINN is under the cap, but only by ~7m. We can offer more with the MLE at 8.4m. Though I doubt Young gets much more than the taxpayer MLE (~5.2m), which GS can offer and MINN can match with "practical cap space."

https://www.thebirdwrites.com/2017/7...s-timberwolves

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Potentially, the Pelicans can offer Nick Young a 4-year deal and around $36 million with the mid level exception, which would mean a salary of $8.4 million next season. The Timberwolves, who are operating under the salary cap line, have less than $7 million of practical cap space available, and they would have to renounce the cap holds of Shabazz Muhammad and Brandon Rush, just to name a few.

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Anyone think this is possible?

Pels get: Bledsoe, Crowder

Boston gets: Ajinca, Toupane (non-guaranteed), 2019 1st round swap rights, and 2020 1st round pick (top-3 protected)

Phoenix gets: Asik, Marcus Smart, 2018 Pels 1st round (top-3 protected)

Boston clears cap room to sign Hayward, and they clear space on the wing (very crowded roster) for Hayward's minutes, and they get future picks, which Ainge is obsessed with. This deal has a Brooklyn sort of feel to in on their end. Phoenix has said they'll take on salary for young assets and picks. They get Smart to be their PG of the future, and they get our 1st round pick this year.

We mortgage our future for the present and hope to re-sign Boogie.

PG - Bledsoe, Crawford, Cook

SG - Jrue, Moore, Jackson

SF - Hill, Crowder (BAE shooter)

PF - Davis, Cunningham, Diallo

C - Boogie, MLE (Olynyk)

That's a hell of a roster!

Reading Boston fans speculation, they seem pretty unanimous that Crowder probably isnt going anywhere.

He has an incredible contract, the Celtics are not desperate to clear his cap space, and he has been used as a stretch 4 and could continue to do so in Boston next season. Letting Tatum red-shirt and Brown continue to come along slowly.

Have to say it makes sense.

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

Anyone think this is possible?

Pels get: Bledsoe, Crowder

Boston gets: Ajinca, Toupane (non-guaranteed), 2019 1st round swap rights, and 2020 1st round pick (top-3 protected)

Phoenix gets: Asik, Marcus Smart, 2018 Pels 1st round (top-3 protected)

Boston clears cap room to sign Hayward, and they clear space on the wing (very crowded roster) for Hayward's minutes, and they get future picks, which Ainge is obsessed with. This deal has a Brooklyn sort of feel to in on their end. Phoenix has said they'll take on salary for young assets and picks. They get Smart to be their PG of the future, and they get our 1st round pick this year.

We mortgage our future for the present and hope to re-sign Boogie.

PG - Bledsoe, Crawford, Cook

SG - Jrue, Moore, Jackson

SF - Hill, Crowder (BAE shooter)

PF - Davis, Cunningham, Diallo

C - Boogie, MLE (Olynyk)

That's a hell of a roster!

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Don't play with my emotions, man...:crytear:

Even if it means that we won't get Crowder, I'll still do this trade and hope we can sign Swaggy P.

Asik, Ajinca, Q-Pon, and even Moore's contracts are killing us.

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Originally Posted by Tinman

Did you get a chance to read the article? It's on thebirdwrites.

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I didn't know there was an article.

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Originally Posted by PelsFan2313

Apparently MINN is under the cap, but only by ~7m. We can offer more with the MLE at 8.4m. Though I doubt Young gets much more than the taxpayer MLE (~5.2m), which GS can offer and MINN can match with "practical cap space."

https://www.thebirdwrites.com/2017/7...s-timberwolves

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Ah that makes sense, thanks.

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Originally Posted by N.O.Bronco

Reading Boston fans speculation, they seem pretty unanimous that Crowder probably isnt going anywhere.

He has an incredible contract, the Celtics are not desperate to clear cap space, and he has been used as a stretch 4 and could continue to do so in Boston next season. Letting Tatum red-shirt and Brown continue to come along slowly.

Have to say it makes sense.

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I just don't see how Bradley, Smart, Crowder, Hayward, Brown, and Tatum are all going to get minutes on the wing. Seems like at least 2 have to go, and to me, Crowder is more of a 2/3 than a 3/4.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

I didn't know there was an article.

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Yeah, I think you can go to Oleh's Twitter to get it . @Redhopeful

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

Anyone think this is possible?

Pels get: Bledsoe, Crowder

Boston gets: Ajinca, Toupane (non-guaranteed), 2019 1st round swap rights, and 2020 1st round pick (top-3 protected)

Phoenix gets: Asik, Marcus Smart, 2018 Pels 1st round (top-3 protected)

Boston clears cap room to sign Hayward, and they clear space on the wing (very crowded roster) for Hayward's minutes, and they get future picks, which Ainge is obsessed with. This deal has a Brooklyn sort of feel to in on their end. Phoenix has said they'll take on salary for young assets and picks. They get Smart to be their PG of the future, and they get our 1st round pick this year.

We mortgage our future for the present and hope to re-sign Boogie.

PG - Bledsoe, Crawford, Cook

SG - Jrue, Moore, Jackson

SF - Hill, Crowder (BAE shooter)

PF - Davis, Cunningham, Diallo

C - Boogie, MLE (Olynyk)

That's a hell of a roster!

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Do we have the $$. Ajinca -Asik 16 1/2 mill. I believe Bledsoe/Crowder a bit more . 23 millionish.

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

I just don't see how Bradley, Smart, Crowder, Hayward, Brown, and Tatum are all going to get minutes on the wing. Seems like at least 2 have to go, and to me, Crowder is more of a 2/3 than a 3/4.

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Bradley is likely gone by the trade deadline. He's a UFA next summer and will draw a lot of attention for obvious reasons. I can see him getting something close to 20m annually, which will be too high for Boston, considering IT's impending raise, along with Hayward's and Horford's contracts. Brown and Tatum are on rookie contracts, so they aren't going anywhere (low value in the short term, full control in the long term) absent a trade for a superstar. Crowder might as well be on a rookie contract given his current contract and fits in well with their concurrent objectives to win now, while building for the future.

If our priority is to win now, then I wouldn't blink twice in giving away our next three years' 1st round picks (until AD's last year) in various trades to land us some solid players while getting rid of Asik + Ajinca's contracts.

Because if AD leaves, then we can always rebuild with that first round pick the following year. Is Lebron James Jr. eligible at that time? LOL.

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Originally Posted by WhyHornetsWhy

If our priority is to win now, then I wouldn't blink twice in giving away our next three years' 1st round picks (until AD's last year) in various trades to land us some solid players while getting rid of Asik + Ajinca's contracts.

Because if AD leaves, then we can always rebuild with that first round pick.

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Only giving away 2 1st rounders. Swapping 2019. Can't give away 2 in a row. Who knows- We might have a better record than Boston At seasons end.

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Originally Posted by WhyHornetsWhy

If our priority is to win now, then I wouldn't blink twice in giving away our next three years' 1st round picks (until AD's last year) in various trades to land us some solid players while getting rid of Asik + Ajinca's contracts.

Because if AD leaves, then we can always rebuild with that first round pick the following year. Is Lebron James Jr. eligible at that time? LOL.

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You can't trade first round picks from consecutive years. That's why the 2018 first round pick wasn't available for us to use until after the NBA draft, where the Kings used our 2017 first round pick.

Got it, thanks guys. Swap it then.

Still, my points stands. If we're trying to win now as in within the span from now until 2020, we need to start doing something drastic this off-season. Go get Bledsoe.

It's like the Sixers. Pelicans can't expect to add all the pieces in 1 season to make a championship run. We need to start trading these 1st round picks for solid players while getting rid of Asik + Ajinca's contracts to make a title within the next 3 years.

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Originally Posted by WhyHornetsWhy

Got it, thanks guys. Swap it then.

Still, my points stands. If we're trying to win now OR even try to win 2 seasons from now, we gotta start to do something drastic this off-season. Go get Bledsoe.

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Seriously. My day and life needs to go on lol

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

Anyone think this is possible?

Pels get: Bledsoe, Crowder

Boston gets: Ajinca, Toupane (non-guaranteed), 2019 1st round swap rights, and 2020 1st round pick (top-3 protected)

Phoenix gets: Asik, Marcus Smart, 2018 Pels 1st round (top-3 protected)

Boston clears cap room to sign Hayward, and they clear space on the wing (very crowded roster) for Hayward's minutes, and they get future picks, which Ainge is obsessed with. This deal has a Brooklyn sort of feel to in on their end. Phoenix has said they'll take on salary for young assets and picks. They get Smart to be their PG of the future, and they get our 1st round pick this year.

We mortgage our future for the present and hope to re-sign Boogie.

PG - Bledsoe, Crawford, Cook

SG - Jrue, Moore, Jackson

SF - Hill, Crowder (BAE shooter)

PF - Davis, Cunningham, Diallo

C - Boogie, MLE (Olynyk)

That's a hell of a roster!

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Originally Posted by N.O.Bronco

Reading Boston fans speculation, they seem pretty unanimous that Crowder probably isnt going anywhere.

He has an incredible contract, the Celtics are not desperate to clear his cap space, and he has been used as a stretch 4 and could continue to do so in Boston next season. Letting Tatum red-shirt and Brown continue to come along slowly.

Have to say it makes sense.

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Originally Posted by Tinman

I didn't say Cap. Oleh wrote an article 2hrs ago, explaining we have 8.4 million to offer Young. & well, Minnesota does not.

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I just hope that Dell isn't expecting us to win a title next year, but are making the right moves towards winning a title, say 2-3 years from now. That will be the start to our window.

To do that, he needs to get rid of Asik or Ajinca's contracts by trading one of our 1sts and go get Bledsoe, even if it means a 3-team trade. The addition of Lawson and Young will be nice.

After you get Bledsoe and make the playoffs, then the dominoes will start to fall in a good way because Boogie will re-sign. Once he signs his extension, we'll have enough to trade Jrue and assets that same off-season for Wall. So, hopefully Jrue plays like an all-star this year. In hindsight, it was good to sign Jrue. I don't see him as our future, but a valuable asset in a trade for the future.

And yes, I do realize we'd be trading for a 1 year rental in Wall. But, I'd pull the trigger for Wall because you can't honestly tell me he wouldn't re-sign with Boogie, AD, and Bledsoe on our team. Less teams will trade for Wall because of knowing it's an one year-rental. If another team trades for Wall, then we should go after coach Cal. Coach Cal, Boogie, AD, and Bledsoe? Wall will surely come after that 1 year with the team who traded for him.

This is all if assuming Wall doesn't sign his extension with Washington and we make the trade for Bledsoe.

The way the league is going it could be more difficult to win in 2 years no one knows
If Dell doesn't win know he will be gone next year Win Now!

Casspi to the Warriors

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Originally Posted by KevinDavis1022

Casspi to the Warriors

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Good now young come on down

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Originally Posted by KevinDavis1022

Casspi to the Warriors

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Still sad that we lost his bird rights due to a knee jerk reaction trying to make the playoffs and we were so far out of it already.

I'd like to steal Stanley Johnson from Detroit. He had a down year but may still have good upside and has good athleticism. Could fit him into a trade exception if they are trying to clear room for KCP.

Things can turn in a moment in FA, in a day or two the Pels could make a perfect move and make it all ok, but as you see potentially useful names go off the board one after another you have to worry if Dell is going to pull a Dell offseason, and finish off his career leaving a crippled franchise as his legacy. Bought himself some time with Boogie, but if he's still the same level of incompetent as always, it will just be a brief reprieve. This is his one summer to prove he's not a bottom rung GM. He just has to start to win some recruitment battles (Young? Lawson? Rondo?).

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Originally Posted by tthier2

Good now young come on down

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Casspi likely does not affect decision on Young for GS. I would bet Casspi took minimum.

Is there any way to get EBledsoe without trading 2 firsts?

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Originally Posted by KevinDavis1022

Casspi to the Warriors

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A cheaper replacemente for swaggy P we should be first on his list
He was probably promised a starting spot I like him of the bench better

Even with this move, I'm told Warriors still interested in Nick Young https://t.co/bU24zdrLmP

— Mark Medina (@MarkG_Medina) July 4, 2017

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Originally Posted by tthier2

Good now young come on down

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I'm pretty sure Casspi didn't take a major deal so he wouldn't affect the signing of Young.

Swing for the fences Dell there is no guarantees after this year!
Gentry also

Omri Casspi signed with the Warriors on a one-year deal for the minimum, per sources. Great fit for GSW who still can use their taxpayer MLE

— Tim Bontemps (@TimBontemps) July 4, 2017

The rich get richer

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Originally Posted by jprdbulldog20

Omri Casspi signed with the Warriors on a one-year deal for the minimum, per sources. Great fit for GSW who still can use their taxpayer MLE

— Tim Bontemps (@TimBontemps) July 4, 2017

The rich get richer

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Casspi ring chasing. I would think some team would have given him more than that, maybe BAE.

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Casspi ring chasing. I would think some team would have given him more than that, maybe BAE.

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This league is hopeless. Warriors with a stacked core and now every year they'll get solid role players for the minimum because they're ring chasing

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Originally Posted by jprdbulldog20

Even with this move, I'm told Warriors still interested in Nick Young https://t.co/bU24zdrLmP

— Mark Medina (@MarkG_Medina) July 4, 2017

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Cool. It buries him even more on their depth chart. Does he want more money and playing time or does he want to ring chase?

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Originally Posted by WhyHornetsWhy

Cool. It buries him even more on their depth chart. Does he want more money and playing time or does he want to ring chase?

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Not just that. They have a 5.2 MLE & don't have 1 playable Center on the roster. They have 12 paid on roster w/ Zero Centers. Looks better & better for Pels.

Gordon Hayward picks Boston. It's done.

— Tim Reynolds (@ByTimReynolds) July 4, 2017

Is Dell waiting on Young's decision before making any trades for Bledsoe? I'm confused does one move affect the other?

Damn it, Dell. Time to start bumping from 20-22 hours to 23-24 hours.

Thank You, Utah. https://t.co/ICfocNeZfW

— Gordon Hayward (@gordonhayward) July 4, 2017

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Originally Posted by jprdbulldog20

This league is hopeless. Warriors with a stacked core and now every year they'll get solid role players for the minimum because they're ring chasing

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I was just talking to someone about this. GS is getting ridiculously stacked. Shooters, shooters, and more shooters. The starters probably won't go past 30 minutes a night at this rate. Smh

Free agent Gordon Hayward has agreed to a four-year, $128M deal with the Boston Celtics, league source tells The Vertical.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) July 4, 2017

Hayward receives a player option in the fourth year of his Boston contract, league sources tell The Vertical. https://t.co/mCP9r5wdXz

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) July 4, 2017

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Originally Posted by WhyHornetsWhy

Is Dell waiting on Young's decision before making any trades for Bledsoe? I'm confused does one move affect the other?

Damn it, Dell. Time to start bumping from 20-22 hours to 23-24 hours.

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Scuttlebutt is that Pels told Swaggy he would start here. If the Pels sign Bledsoe, Swaggy ain't startin !

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Originally Posted by jprdbulldog20

Gordon Hayward picks Boston. It's done.

— Tim Reynolds (@ByTimReynolds) July 4, 2017

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Y'all probably know by now that I'm a huge advocate in acquiring Bledsoe to land John Wall.

I guarantee a factor that played in Hayward's decision is that he would be playing for his old college coach again.

If we got Coach Cal next year and traded for Bledose this year...Boogie re-signs, and y'all don't think Wall will come play for us?

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Originally Posted by Tinman

Scuttlebutt is that Pels told Swaggy he would start here. If the Pels sign Bledsoe, Swaggy ain't startin !

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Or...Did he tell Young that he'd be playing a starter's minutes as the 6th man?

Four years, $128 million for Gordon Hayward in Boston, per source, with a fourth year player option.

— David Aldridge (@daldridgetnt) July 4, 2017

The Utah Jazz have scheduled a meeting with Washington Wizards restricted free agent Otto Porter, league sources told Basketball Insiders.

— Michael Scotto (@MikeAScotto) July 4, 2017

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Originally Posted by WhyHornetsWhy

Or...Did he tell Young that he'd be playing a starter's minutes as the 6th man?

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Um, can't be 100% sure! So, let's go with your thought process ! Gotta tell ya> that would be really sweet w/ Jrue Bledsoe & Swaggy off the bench.