2022-23 Offseason Thread

I'm really not afraid of MyKnee Hurting, Day-To-Davis, and LeGroin after an 82 game season

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Originally Posted by Taker597

I'm really not afraid of MyKnee Hurting, Day-To-Davis, and LeGroin after an 82 game season

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Did you know that Lebron is 3rd all time in career minutes played?

The next active player on that list is Carmelo Anthony, who has played nearly 9000 fewer minutes despite being drafted the same year. Next after that is Chris Paul, who has played about 13,000 fewer minutes despite being the same age as Lebron.

That dude has more wear on the tires than anyone. No *way* he can play more than 60 games a year at even 90% effort anymore. Once he gets into the playoffs and he's allowed to hone in more on opponents, never really has to do back-to-backs, may even get time off between rounds, and only has to play about 25 games, then I'm still not happy doubting him; he's still Lebron. But I have no faith in him to just power teams to the post-season anymore. Too old, too much wear on the gears.

https://twitter.com/CookedByKD/statu...1_c10&ref_url=


Lol

Interviews with the 2 rookies.

Dyson Daniels: ''I don't worry about stats, I'm a winner. I go out there to win every game.''

Says that his first impression of New Orleans is that someone paid for his Chipotle the first day he was in town, and that's stuck with him as an overall impression. Mentions faking sick days at school as a kid to stay home and watch the NBA. Names Lebron as his favourite player. Can't wait to play against Giddey as an Australian thing, they played together growing up. Wants to play against Lebron, Steph, and Giannis most.

Mentions the Australian style of basketball is a bit different because it's more team oriented rather than ballhandler and screen based, but wants to show he can read the game at a high level either way and the Academy let him get used to that.

Says the G League style is more like the NBA style and says the G League team usually runs similar stuff to their NBA affiliate but getting used to that style has made him feel prepared for the NBA, though obviously the NBA has better athletes. Mentions he thinks he's both a team player and a leader, does the gritty stuff and leads both by example and with his voice. Wants to get teammates trust so he can express the way he sees the game and help lead the team.

Mentions he's spoken to Devonte', Herb, Trey, CJ, Hayes, but also adds it's only been a few days so he hasn't had the full run-down yet.

Says his priority for Summer League is to win games, to show what he can do. ''Getting in the NBA is one thing but earning your minutes is another.''

Adds that he wants to meet everyone, even at Chipotle; everyone who has approached him has been nice to him and he can ''sense that the people around here are willing to help'', is happy to chat to fans in the street and sign stuff and take photos


EJ Liddell: Says getting drafted was bittersweet because not all of his family could be there with him but overall it was both exciting and surreal. Mentions his mother and little brother were the most excited people on draft night for him.

Asked about the transition from leading in college to being a rookie in the NBA, he says his priority is to learn. Says he wants to grow into a leadership role but will spend his first year doing ''a lot of listening''. Says there's a lot of people he can learn from because the team has been built ''like some dogs, with a lot of guys who play with chips on their soldiers and I can see myself fitting in with everyone with the effort and mentality that I bring''. Mentions he doesn't play quite like anyone else on the team but envisions himself fitting in well with a lot of roles - can play the 3, 4, or 5 depending on lineups.

Only just got the New Orleans - his Uncle lives in NOLA and his cousin goes to LSU, though, so he's been there in the past before. Is excited to try the seafood - particularly oysters, on his uncle's recommendation.

Playing in the Big 10 prepares him for the NBA because he put in the work every single day and the talent level is high. ''This is a job now, so me stacking days is going to help me at the NBA level''. Wants to use Summer League as a learning experience, to adjust to new roles; adds his Usage Rate was through the roof in college but wants to adjust to the new situation. Hopes to use SL as an opportunity to learn his teammate's games and build some chemistry.

CJ texted him the night of the draft to welcome him to the team.

His idol growing up was Kobe but his favourite big was Shaq. Loved Kobe for the fadeaway, for the most part - said he's ''always been a Lakers fan, but now I'm a Pelicans guy'' and can't wait to play against the Lakers.

People were asking him for pictures as soon as he landed in the airport and it feels strange, but is looking forward to adjusting.

His strong suit is his effort and defense, in his own view, and wants to improve his defensive versatility because he sees that as being appropriate for the team. Wants to defend CJ and BI in practice to expand that skillset. Thinks his versatility on both ends is what is going to help him lock into the team so well - guys his height aren't strong enough, he's got enough handle to take bigs off the dribble, too big for guards.

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Originally Posted by Taker597

https://twitter.com/CookedByKD/statu...1_c10&ref_url=


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Bruh :hihi::hihi:

Colin Cowman (lol) said today the Nets were not getting takers on KD and the Gobert trade did 't help their case. Don't ask me why but folks are not talking to the Nets about KD.

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Originally Posted by Lee2000

Colin Cowman (lol) said today the Nets were not getting takers on KD and the Gobert trade did 't help their case. Don't ask me why but folks are not talking to the Nets about KD.

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Did you see/hear what Sean Marks (allegedly) proposed for a KD trade with Minnesota?

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Before acquiring All-NBA center Rudy Gobert in a blockbuster deal, the Timberwolves — according to Vince Goodwill on the “Posting Up” podcast — approached the Nets regarding the possibility of trading for Durant, the disgruntled 12-time All-Star. Brooklyn responded with a hefty asking price: Karl-Anthony Towns, Anthony Edwards, and four first-round picks.

https://nypost.com/2022/07/08/nets-k...lves-revealed/

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If that's the kind of haul the Nets want KD will rot on their roster.

Honestly absurd

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Originally Posted by DroopyDawg

Did you see/hear what Sean Marks (allegedly) proposed for a KD trade with Minnesota?



If that's the kind of haul the Nets want KD will rot on their roster.

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I mean, 13 - 3 does more realistic trade proposals than that

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Originally Posted by AusPel

I mean, 13 - 3 does more realistic trade proposals than that

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I think the Nets just don't want to be the worst trade in NBA history anymore. Lol

Zion Williamson has arrived at the foot of the Eiffel Tower for Quai 54 in Paris. pic.twitter.com/W1RZyLk3NS

— Bally Sports New Orleans (@BallySportsNO) July 9, 2022

Zion Williamson avec toujours autant de JUS !! ������

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— First Team (@FirstTeam101) July 9, 2022

future faces of the league �� @luka7doncic @Zionwilliamson pic.twitter.com/3TYyGsqB2T

— jan (@ZionWilliamstan) July 9, 2022

Looking good. Face got skinny

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Originally Posted by Taker597

Looking good. Face got skinny

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Dude looks better than he did his rookie season. The league is screwed.

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Originally Posted by RUFshreve

Dude looks better than he did his rookie season. The league is screwed.

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Zion healthy and in shape. Ingram coming off a playoff run. Straitjacket Jones on the wing. Trigga Trey from 3. League's f**ked.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Zion healthy and in shape. Ingram coming off a playoff run. Straitjacket Jones on the wing. Trigga Trey from 3. League's f**ked.

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No...No...No!!!

Stand your ground about how overrated BI is. That was your claim for a year and a half after we acquired him.

Remember, Kuzma > BI, huh?

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Originally Posted by As I See It

No...No...No!!!

Stand your ground about how overrated BI is. That was your claim for a year and a half after we acquired him.

Remember, Kuzma > BI, huh?

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You're a better villain than what ever Marvel Phase 4 is attempting to cook up

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Originally Posted by AusPel

You're a better villain than what ever Marvel Phase 4 is attempting to cook up

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Just trying to keep in real.

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Originally Posted by As I See It

Just trying to keep in real.

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I'd call it trolling to be honest

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Originally Posted by AusPel

I'd call it trolling to be honest

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One soft man's troll is another honest man's truth.

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Originally Posted by AusPel

I'd call it trolling to be honest

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I mean, it's blatant trolling. Just ignore him - that's what I do. Absolutely not worth anyone's time.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

I mean, it's blatant trolling. Just ignore him - that's what I do. Absolutely not worth anyone's time.

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Can you deny anything I have written, dae? Am I telling lies about you? If I am, I assure you I am heartfully sorry.

If not, you can call me names all you want (I have NEVER called you a name); I will remind you (and everybody else) of what you really said about the young man.

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Originally Posted by As I See It

Can you deny anything I have written, dae? Am I telling lies about you? If I am, I assure you I am heartfully sorry.

If not, you can call me names all you want (I have NEVER called you a name); I will remind you (and everybody else) of what you really said about the young man.

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I think the dangerous precedent you are setting here is that

A) nobody should have a strong negative opinion of a player

B) you can’t change your mind with new information

I don’t see the value in calling people out time and time again on old opinions that they may not hold any more. I think it’s fine to ask if they still feel that way and if they do ask why. If they don’t, move on. This need to continually remind people of their past errors is what is at the core of cancel culture and my guess is that you lean right, and I would bet you hate cancel culture

Nobody is going to be right all the time. But for this board to be interesting, people have to be able to share their true thoughts and also be free to change their mind with new info. Do what you want, but I think that tactic is exactly what is at the core of almost all of this country’s problems. Causes insane polarization

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

I think the dangerous precedent you are setting here is that

A) nobody should have a strong negative opinion of a player

B) you can’t change your mind with new information

I don’t see the value in calling people out time and time again on old opinions that they may not hold any more. I think it’s fine to ask if they still feel that way and if they do ask why. If they don’t, move on. This need to continually remind people of their past errors is what is at the core of cancel culture and my guess is that you lean right, and I would bet you hate cancel culture

Nobody is going to be right all the time. But for this board to be interesting, people have to be able to share their true thoughts and also be free to change their mind with new info. Do what you want, but I think that tactic is exactly what is at the core of almost all of this country’s problems. Causes insane polarization

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He knows. I was strongly against Ingram when he was on the Lakers, and I didn't think it likely he improved. He came to the Pelicans, he massively improved in almost every category, and I said I was wrong and that I was happy to have been wrong.

He doesn't care. He's in it for the troll, not for the discussion. He has literally been doing this for years at this point, despite me having changed my mind about Ingram after his first season in New Orleans. It doesn't matter to him that I have happily changed my view on Ingram and think of him as a great player these days - acknowledging that I've changed my mind and shutting up about it would simply be a reason for him to stop trolling, and since that's his number one priority, he has spent literally years at this point ignoring that information at every possible turn.

It doesn't matter if I respond to him or not - he will appear in threads and reply to me trolling about the opinion I had of Brandon Ingram over 3 years ago. If there was any reasonable moderation on this site, he'd have been banned for harassment at this point :hihi:

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

I think the dangerous precedent you are setting here is that

A) nobody should have a strong negative opinion of a player

B) you can’t change your mind with new information

I don’t see the value in calling people out time and time again on old opinions that they may not hold any more. I think it’s fine to ask if they still feel that way and if they do ask why. If they don’t, move on. This need to continually remind people of their past errors is what is at the core of cancel culture and my guess is that you lean right, and I would bet you hate cancel culture

Nobody is going to be right all the time. But for this board to be interesting, people have to be able to share their true thoughts and also be free to change their mind with new info. Do what you want, but I think that tactic is exactly what is at the core of almost all of this country’s problems. Causes insane polarization

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A 22/23 year old was trashed at nauseum for the better part of two years by dae. If anyone tried to defend the young man because of the coaching carrousel he was on, physical injuries he suffered through, or the Laker Takeover by Klutch, an attempt to 'cancel them' was the norm of our resident 'overseas guru'.

Never, and I mean never, has any player drawn so much unearned criticism before he even took the court for the Pelicans. Dan Dickau, Jimmer Fredette, Omer Asik and Luke Babbitt were all given way more consideration upon the advent of their Pelican careers by our 'continental friend'. But the same courtesy was not afforded BI. You speak of 'Cancel Culture'? dae attempted to cancel BI before his plane ever landed at Louis Armstrong.

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Originally Posted by As I See It

A 22/23 year old was trashed at nauseum for the better part of two years by dae. If anyone tried to defend the young man because of the coaching carrousel he was on, physical injuries he suffered through, or the Laker Takeover by Klutch, an attempt to 'cancel them' was the norm of our resident 'overseas guru'.

Never, and I mean never, has any player drawn so much unearned criticism before he even took the court for the Pelicans. Dan Dickau, Jimmer Fredette, Omer Asik and Luke Babbitt were all given way more consideration upon the advent of their Pelican careers by our 'continental friend'. But the same courtesy was not afforded BI. You speak of 'Cancel Culture'? dae attempted to cancel BI before his plane ever landed at Louis Armstrong.

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The End.

There. It's over. Time to move on.

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Originally Posted by As I See It

A 22/23 year old was trashed at nauseum for the better part of two years by dae. If anyone tried to defend the young man because of the coaching carrousel he was on, physical injuries he suffered through, or the Laker Takeover by Klutch, an attempt to 'cancel them' was the norm of our resident 'overseas guru'.

Never, and I mean never, has any player drawn so much unearned criticism before he even took the court for the Pelicans. Dan Dickau, Jimmer Fredette, Omer Asik and Luke Babbitt were all given way more consideration upon the advent of their Pelican careers by our 'continental friend'. But the same courtesy was not afforded BI. You speak of 'Cancel Culture'? dae attempted to cancel BI before his plane ever landed at Louis Armstrong.

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I see what you did here. Those four players all have nice hair.

Man.... The beefs on here are prime WWF quality.lol

But I wasn't even on the board when Dan Dickau, Jimmer Fredette, and Luke Babbitt were on the team. How does he know I gave Ingram ''less consideration'' than them?

Simple answer? He doesn't. Just making it up to be dramatic and to use as ammo for trolling. He's dedicated to the troll-act though, which I can appreciate in a strange way.

I’ll be the first to say I didn’t want BI. I was wrong but I had wanted to send most of lakers players to trade for Morant. I wanted to build around Ja and Zion. I’m happy to say I was wrong and don’t want to even trade him for KD.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

But I wasn't even on the board when Dan Dickau, Jimmer Fredette, and Luke Babbitt were on the team. How does he know I gave Ingram ''less consideration'' than them?

Simple answer? He doesn't. Just making it up to be dramatic and to use as ammo for trolling. He's dedicated to the troll-act though, which I can appreciate in a strange way.

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Luke friggin Babbitt wow I forgot he donned a NOLA uni. Great recall I totally forgot about that dude.

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Originally Posted by As I See It

A 22/23 year old was trashed at nauseum for the better part of two years by dae. If anyone tried to defend the young man because of the coaching carrousel he was on, physical injuries he suffered through, or the Laker Takeover by Klutch, an attempt to 'cancel them' was the norm of our resident 'overseas guru'.

Never, and I mean never, has any player drawn so much unearned criticism before he even took the court for the Pelicans. Dan Dickau, Jimmer Fredette, Omer Asik and Luke Babbitt were all given way more consideration upon the advent of their Pelican careers by our 'continental friend'. But the same courtesy was not afforded BI. You speak of 'Cancel Culture'? dae attempted to cancel BI before his plane ever landed at Louis Armstrong.

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Your argument holds up if you believe two wrongs makes a right. I do not believe such philosophy to be true. But if it makes you feel better go for it. If you are telling yourself you are doing it to uphold the honor of Brandon Ingram, I can tell you with great certainty that he couldn’t care less.

Yeah. I'm definitely guilty of the "in yo face" stuff but I think we should put a two year (730 days (efff leap days)) statute of limitations on holding people accountable for bad takes.....unless they bring it up themselves like they are trying to say they had a different take then they really did. There's just too few of us for these things to go on forever.

Meaning I still have about 15 months left to mock you blokes who were trying to sell Graham as the Lonzo upgrade. Y'all lucky Zo got injured or we'd really be rubbing that salt in.

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Originally Posted by msusousaphone

Yeah. I'm definitely guilty of the "in yo face" stuff but I think we should put a two year (730 days (efff leap days)) statute of limitations on holding people accountable for bad takes.....unless they bring it up themselves like they are trying to say they had a different take then they really did. There's just too few of us for these things to go on forever.

Meaning I still have about 15 months left to mock you blokes who were trying to sell Graham as the Lonzo upgrade. Y'all lucky Zo got injured or we'd really be rubbing that salt in.

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We spent more money on black hole gang... Graham, Thomas, and Temple than we would for Zo. That's enough evidence to provide that Lonzo probably would of been better on this team, but you have to bet on his injury status.

Granted...keeping Lonzo was 100% about elevating his stock and moving him for a better player .

A lot of fans made Lonzo to be a scapegoat.He wasn't amazing, but he was the furthest thing from our problems. He was just an above average guy.

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Originally Posted by msusousaphone

Yeah. I'm definitely guilty of the "in yo face" stuff but I think we should put a two year (730 days (efff leap days)) statute of limitations on holding people accountable for bad takes.....unless they bring it up themselves like they are trying to say they had a different take then they really did. There's just too few of us for these things to go on forever.

Meaning I still have about 15 months left to mock you blokes who were trying to sell Graham as the Lonzo upgrade. Y'all lucky Zo got injured or we'd really be rubbing that salt in.

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Lonzo’s injury history was one of the many reasons they weren’t going to give him 20 million. So no, we’re not lucky. We wouldn’t have CJ McCollum right now had we re-signed Lonzo

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Originally Posted by pelafanatic

Lonzo’s injury history was one of the many reasons they weren’t going to give him 20 million. So no, we’re not lucky. We wouldn’t have CJ McCollum right now had we re-signed Lonzo

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I disagree. Don’t you think lonzo could have been used in the trade in place of hart? Lonzo is a great fit next to Dame and their 2-guard Simmons. Lonzo was hurt, but his contract is not an outlier compared to other starting guards still

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Originally Posted by Taker597

We spent more money on black hole gang... Graham, Thomas, and Temple than we would for Zo. That's enough evidence to provide that Lonzo probably would of been better on this team, but you have to bet on his injury status.

Granted...keeping Lonzo was 100% about elevating his stock and moving him for a better player .

A lot of fans made Lonzo to be a scapegoat.He wasn't amazing, but he was the furthest thing from our problems. He was just an above average guy.

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That's glossing over the fact that Lonzo was ready to be out of here. Could we have forced him to come back to a team he was ready to move on from? Sure. But if we do, I doubt we have the culture around this team that we currently do.

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Originally Posted by Savvy_Bird

I disagree. Don’t you think lonzo could have been used in the trade in place of hart? Lonzo is a great fit next to Dame and their 2-guard Simmons. Lonzo was hurt, but his contract is not an outlier compared to other starting guards still

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Let’s just leave it at, if the FO had bent over backwards in order to accommodate Lonzo to get him to stay here, from a human standpoint they wouldn’t turn around and trade him 6 months later.

Griff’s blunder with Lonzo was overestimating the restricted FA market, whether that is because of tampering idk. He should have moved him at the prior trade deadline

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Originally Posted by pelafanatic

Griff’s blunder with Lonzo was overestimating the restricted FA market, whether that is because of tampering idk. He should have moved him at the prior trade deadline

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I don't consider the failure to trade Lonzo at the deadline a "blunder." That's some extreme hyperoble right there. We don't know what Lonzo's market was back then. Maybe they shopped Lonzo back then and the offers sucked. The guy's faults are pretty obvious. You think Pelicans fans are the only ones who know he's afraid to drive the ball? The guy is often injured, can't navigate screens, and never creates off the dribble. Anyone with eyeballs knows that. The Bulls made a terrible decision with Lonzo. But I guess it only takes one team to fall in love...

I can tell you exactly the offer they had on the table - Lonzo for Lauri straight up. Griff said he would do it if they added a first. Hung up and fully expected a call to come in an hour before the deadline. Call never came

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

I can tell you exactly the offer they had on the table - Lonzo for Lauri straight up. Griff said he would do it if they added a first. Hung up and fully expected a call to come in an hour before the deadline. Call never came

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Do you prefer the Universe where they added a 1st, or what we have now?

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Originally Posted by Upper Decker

I don't consider the failure to trade Lonzo at the deadline a "blunder." That's some extreme hyperoble right there. We don't know what Lonzo's market was back then. Maybe they shopped Lonzo back then and the offers sucked. The guy's faults are pretty obvious. You think Pelicans fans are the only ones who know he's afraid to drive the ball? The guy is often injured, can't navigate screens, and never creates off the dribble. Anyone with eyeballs knows that. The Bulls made a terrible decision with Lonzo. But I guess it only takes one team to fall in love...

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I didn’t think blunder was that harsh. Holding was worse than not holding. Simple as that. Didn’t end up being a big deal

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Originally Posted by AusPel

Do you prefer the Universe where they added a 1st, or what we have now?

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The universe where they added the first wasn’t a live option

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

The universe where they added the first wasn’t a live option

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Ok the hypothetical, or what actually transpired

Any word on what year the 1st would have been? The ability to retain Josh Hart ended up being crucial, as were the optics around Josh Hart’s complete 180 on how he felt about the organizational culture

The "what if's" are fun for sure, but I wouldn't really change a thing about where this team is from a roster standpoint. Of course, it would have nice to have gotten Chet and not Dyson. But I like the problem we will have this season with getting guys minutes.

Just look at our starting lineup. I don't want to add another star (guard or forward), cause who would get moved to the bench? I'm not benching Herb!

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

The universe where they added the first wasn’t a live option

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Are. You. Ok. With. Playing. The. Hypothetical. Game.

Or. do. I. need. to. slow. it. down. for. you. a. bit. more.

Guys, we are all on the same team here. Let’s play some team ball instead of batting each other.