Pels Off season thread

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Originally Posted by 13 - 3

Cavs shopping Sexton too?

https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/st...685874689?s=20

Collin Sexton is reportedly 'very available,' per @ByJasonLloyd

"I thought the Cavs were going to write the check to pay Sexton a max contract this summer, but based on what I’ve been told the last few months from sources around the league, I no longer believe that’s true." pic.twitter.com/a637mcehQB

— NBA Central (@TheNBACentral) July 11, 2021

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for what its worth.... it has been reported that there has been some preliminary talk between the Pels and the Cavs about Sexton....

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Originally Posted by 13 - 3

Cavs shopping Sexton too?

https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/st...685874689?s=20

Collin Sexton is reportedly 'very available,' per @ByJasonLloyd

"I thought the Cavs were going to write the check to pay Sexton a max contract this summer, but based on what I’ve been told the last few months from sources around the league, I no longer believe that’s true." pic.twitter.com/a637mcehQB

— NBA Central (@TheNBACentral) July 11, 2021

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I don't dislike Colin. However he can score no doubt, but sub par at just about everything else. Pass.

Report: People around the NBA expect the Pelicans to trade their No. 10 pick for veteran help https://t.co/ZWpD0a8W51

— NBA Central (@TheNBACentral) July 10, 2021

Sexton

Give em our 10 and Ingram?

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Originally Posted by 13 - 3

Report: People around the NBA expect the Pelicans to trade their No. 10 pick for veteran help https://t.co/ZWpD0a8W51

? NBA Central (@TheNBACentral) July 10, 2021

Sexton

Give em our 10 and Ingram?

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Are you high? Our 10 and Ingram for a PG that has played in a dysfunctional system?


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Why would we give up more than we're getting? Are you confusing Sexton for Lillard or Fox?

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Originally Posted by 13 - 3

Report: People around the NBA expect the Pelicans to trade their No. 10 pick for veteran help https://t.co/ZWpD0a8W51

? NBA Central (@TheNBACentral) July 10, 2021

Sexton

Give em our 10 and Ingram?

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Lmao you?re such a troll. I don?t even know if he?s worth 10 with that pay day coming up.

I really like this draft... Why do we throw away picks in good draft...

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Originally Posted by 13 - 3

Sexton

Give em our 10 and Ingram?

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Ridiculous idea.

Either of those pieces alone would arguably be giving up too much for Sexton.

All this talk about Sexton. We could just trade Adams to the Hornets and get a S&T for Devonte Graham who imo is a much better fit.

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Originally Posted by Sleeper

Are you high? Our 10 and Ingram for a PG that has played in a dysfunctional system?


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I was not the one that traded for Adams and Bledsoe instead of Paul

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Originally Posted by hornetzplaya

All this talk about Sexton. We could just trade Adams to the Hornets and get a S&T for Devonte Graham who imo is a much better fit.

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Good luck on that idea

Y’all just think getting rid of Adams and Bledsoe will be easy. Lol. If Lee becomes coach you are stuck with Bledsoe for a very long time.

Trade #10 and their maybe hope. Even McNamara said it.

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Originally Posted by Sleeper

Are you high? Our 10 and Ingram for a PG that has played in a dysfunctional system?


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Does such a comment surprise you any more? Many are done just to see if it can get a rise out of other posters.

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Does such a comment surprise you any more? Many are done just to see if it can get a rise out of other posters.

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Lol okay.

We have also been mentioned in a trade for Simmons.

What Philly is asking for reeks of Ingram and #10

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Originally Posted by 13 - 3

We have also been mentioned in a trade for Simmons.

What Philly is asking for reeks of Ingram and #10

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Hard pass.

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Originally Posted by 13 - 3

We have also been mentioned in a trade for Simmons.

What Philly is asking for reeks of Ingram and #10

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Just what this team needs. More passive, Beta, coddled, and unprofessional players. Would make perfect sense!

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Originally Posted by 13 - 3

We have also been mentioned in a trade for Simmons.

What Philly is asking for reeks of Ingram and #10

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Feels like you're trying really, really hard to get rid of Ingram. No. Just no. Not unless it's for Lillard, or maybe Fox.

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Originally Posted by DarkHornet

Feels like you're trying really, really hard to get rid of Ingram. No. Just no. Not unless it's for Lillard, or maybe Fox.

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By tradition someone will call me a troll. I found a real good trade

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yfsflevw

How about this one

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yhuqs3um

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Originally Posted by 13 - 3

By tradition someone will call me a troll. I found a real good trade

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yfsflevw

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Either you are a troll or you are the dumbest person alive. I am trying to give you the benefit of the doubt :)

If the seemingly baseless reports are true that we are interested in Sexton I worked up a deal that may interest all parties. Thunder want to move up, Cavs want to move down, Pels still get a first and send out Bledsoe.

Pels get Prince Sexton 18
Thunder get Bledsoe pick 3
Cavs get pick 6 pick 10 and pick 16

I don’t know if sexton is a good fit. Another ball dominant scorer who doesn’t defend? I guess if we out score everyone technically we win

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

I don?t know if sexton is a good fit. Another ball dominant scorer who doesn?t defend? I guess if we out score everyone technically we win

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I don?t disagree about the fit. But he?s more willing a passer than given credit for.

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Originally Posted by iNolaNightmare

If the seemingly baseless reports are true that we are interested in Sexton I worked up a deal that may interest all parties. Thunder want to move up, Cavs want to move down, Pels still get a first and send out Bledsoe.

Pels get Prince Sexton 18
Thunder get Bledsoe pick 3
Cavs get pick 6 pick 10 and pick 16

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Doubt we could get Sexton, Prince and 18 for Bledsoe and 10. That would be a steal. That is a lot for the Thunder to give up to move 3 spots (6, 16, 18 and take on Bledsoe).

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Either you are a troll or you are the dumbest person alive. I am trying to give you the benefit of the doubt :)

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I knew you would love it

Wait till people find out Knocks changed mind on Lonzo.

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Doubt we could get Sexton, Prince and 18 for Bledsoe and 10. That would be a steal. That is a lot for the Thunder to give up to move 3 spots (6, 16, 18 and take on Bledsoe).

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Maybe not Prince. But I wonder how high Sexton?s value truly is with his upcoming payday. Also keep in mind this draft falls off after the top 3 maybe 4. If the Thunder love Mobley it could be justified. The Thunder have been trying to move up and the Cavs have shown a willingness to move down. The Hawks traded 8 and 17 and took on Solomon Hill to move up to four. So not really that crazy. 16+18 may be too much though you?re right.

https://twitter.com/BenStandig/statu...584730628?s=20


Well, Becky Hammon just saying truth about us and DC.

Phoenix Suns assistant Willie Green has emerged as the serious frontrunner to be the New Orleans Pelicans’ next head coach, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) July 12, 2021

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Originally Posted by Taker597

https://twitter.com/BenStandig/statu...584730628?s=20


Well, Becky Hammon just saying truth about us and DC.

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If you read the article, those are not her comments, but the writer (Jabari Young).

Lowry?

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/nb...s-big-spenders

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Lowry will be the toughest get. Philadelphia, Miami and New Orleans are among the expected suitors for Lowry. The Pelicans would have to find a taker for Eric Bledsoe to make such a deal happen.

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I'm not against Lowry. But he's not the full scale move we need to really become better.

Be great if it was part of a larger offseason.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

I'm not against Lowry. But he's not the full scale move we need to really become better.

Be great if it was part of a larger offseason.

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If you can have Lowry and NAW as your backcourt, I'm in for that

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

I'm not against Lowry. But he's not the full scale move we need to really become better.

Be great if it was part of a larger offseason.

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Lowry is alright. I would prefer Powell. I see a lot people saying they think NAW might be better as a point long term, but Idk about that...

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Originally Posted by Taker597

Lowry is alright. I would prefer Powell. I see a lot people saying they think NAW might be better as a point long term, but Idk about that...

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NAW and Lowry would compliment each other perfectly

I'd be super happy with that starting backcourt

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Originally Posted by AusPel

NAW and Lowry would compliment each other perfectly

I'd be super happy with that starting backcourt

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Agreed. Honestly not sure where the Lowry scepticism is coming from.

I get if, due to age, you think he's not the best long term solution but in terms of ''would he make us a better team next season'' the answer is pretty inarguably yes imo. He's one of maybe the 6 best PGs in the NBA right now? By comparison, we are a team which just played a year basically without a PG. The step up would be obvious and significant.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Agreed. Honestly not sure where the Lowry scepticism is coming from.

I get if, due to age, you think he's not the best long term solution but in terms of ''would he make us a better team next season'' the answer is pretty inarguably yes imo. He's one of maybe the 6 best PGs in the NBA right now? By comparison, we are a team which just played a year basically without a PG. The step up would be obvious and significant.

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Lowry would be perfect for this team imo. Bridge the gap until Kira is ready. Give that veteran leadership and accountability that this team is absolutely desperate for.

So much of Lowry's game is what the Pels lacked last year. I think that he and Kira are comparable skillsets, but Kira is obviously not ready for that role yet.

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Originally Posted by pelafanatic

Lowry would be perfect for this team imo. Bridge the gap until Kira is ready. Give that veteran leadership and accountability that this team is absolutely desperate for.

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Isn't that what Adams and Bledsoe were supposed to be for last year? Do we take the route of going all in on an expensive 35 year old veteran in hopes we can replicate what the Suns did or do we go for someone like Sexton and attempt to build for future?

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Isn't that what Adams and Bledsoe were supposed to be for last year? Do we take the route of going all in on an expensive 35 year old veteran in hopes we can replicate what the Suns did or do we go for someone like Sexton and attempt to build for future?

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Bledsoe to Lowry is a pretty silly comparison I think. Half of the people on this board alone were distraught or upset when we kept Bledsoe; people knew coming in that he was not the guy some people presented him as. Massively overrated, given impact by a system that he did not create, and prone to just not bothering to engage - see his time in Phoenix as well for this.

Lowry is the very opposite of that. Lowry was great this year when the Raptors were in the lottery, he was amazing in their title run as well. Either circumstance he put the work in, he led the team, and he was highly impactful. It's fair to speculate whether he's going to fall off this year or not, he is older, and it's fair to say what it would take to get him wouldn't be worth it long term, but the idea that he is like Bledsoe is kind of absurd.

I'm not particularly interested in Sexton either.

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Isn't that what Adams and Bledsoe were supposed to be for last year? Do we take the route of going all in on an expensive 35 year old veteran in hopes we can replicate what the Suns did or do we go for someone like Sexton and attempt to build for future?

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Lowry is coming off of a season in which he averaged 17/7/4 on a 44-40-88 clip. Much different than Bledsoe or Adams. This is a legitimate all star caliber player with the ring to back it up

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Originally Posted by pelafanatic

Lowry is coming off of a season in which he averaged 17/7/4 on a 44-40-88 clip. Much different than Bledsoe or Adams. This is a legitimate all star caliber player with the ring to back it up

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Idk... I'm afraid that he'll decline with us, but at least you know he'll be a leader and a high effort and IQ guy. So, it's not all bad. Soon or later, we got to hit on a vet player.

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Originally Posted by Taker597

Idk... I'm afraid that he'll decline with us, but at least you know he'll be a leader and a high effort and IQ guy. So, it's not all bad. Soon or later, we got to hit on a vet player.

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If he declines to 75% of the player he was last season, he is still giving you skills that this team has desperately lacked from a PG since Tyreke

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Originally Posted by pelafanatic

If he declines to 75% of the player he was last season, he is still giving you skills that this team has desperately lacked from a PG since Tyreke

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Yeah I agree. He would have to absolutely crater to be not worth it. He's really good. One of the 5 best/most important players in the East over the last decade, counting the entire body of work.

And NBA peeps are saying this is a terrible move and that Lowry won't elevate the team like CP3. He'll fall off and just be a Eric Bledsoe that cares.


I'll be honest... This probably happens to us as we pay him 30+ million


It goes like clockwork with this franchise... Get out from under one bad contract into another that seems way too risky from the beginning. Then, everyone be shocked that we did it again.

I would bet on Lowry especially if he wants to be here. Not expecting that last part, especially if he can win another ring with his career winding down.

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Originally Posted by Silverfoxx

I would bet on Lowry especially if he wants to be here. Not expecting that last part, especially if he can win another ring with his career winding down.

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Yeah, I gotta a lot FUD(fear, uncertainty and doubt) with Griffin and this offseason. Nothing really personal against Lowry.

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Originally Posted by Taker597

And NBA peeps are saying this is a terrible move and that Lowry won't elevate the team like CP3. He'll fall off and just be a Eric Bledsoe that cares.


I'll be honest... This probably happens to us as we pay him 30+ million


It goes like clockwork with this franchise... Get out from under one bad contract into another that seems way too risky from the beginning. Then, everyone be shocked that we did it again.

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I haven't seen a single NBA person say this. I have seen a number of NBA guys say they like the fit, however

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Originally Posted by pelafanatic

I haven't seen a single NBA person say this. I have seen a number of NBA guys say they like the fit, however

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I have also not seen this at all. I'd appreciate those takes being shared, or at least names being named, so I can go read their perspectives. So far basically everyone I've seen other than twitter fans with names like @RealHoops4Dayz has talked about how much it works. I've seen a few people say stuff like ''Lowry to Pelicans is one of those things that I would never have thought of on my own, but once someone says it it instantly makes too much sense''.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Bledsoe to Lowry is a pretty silly comparison I think. Half of the people on this board alone were distraught or upset when we kept Bledsoe; people knew coming in that he was not the guy some people presented him as. Massively overrated, given impact by a system that he did not create, and prone to just not bothering to engage - see his time in Phoenix as well for this.

Lowry is the very opposite of that. Lowry was great this year when the Raptors were in the lottery, he was amazing in their title run as well. Either circumstance he put the work in, he led the team, and he was highly impactful. It's fair to speculate whether he's going to fall off this year or not, he is older, and it's fair to say what it would take to get him wouldn't be worth it long term, but the idea that he is like Bledsoe is kind of absurd.

I'm not particularly interested in Sexton either.

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Reread the comment and not make it into something else. The poster said that he would bring leadership and accountability. My comment was that Bledsoe and Adams were brought in for that last year. I did not compare Lowry's skills to Bledsoe or Adams. Griffin sold us on their leadership and that they would bring accountability (along with SVG).