I know most of you noticed how guard heavy the summer league team is. I wonder if this will be a preview of the regular season. The Pelicans signed 3 guards among the 4 undrafted, have Carr and Blueitt from last year, drafted two and have a number of guards on the regular roster. Could you see a three guard offense with two bigs (Williamson and Favors)?
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07-02-2019, 01:18 PMLee2000
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07-02-2019, 01:27 PMPelicanidaeAssuming no more trades, I would be extremely surprised if we didn't see relatively regular 3-guard lineups. Carr and Bluiett will not be involved with that, they won't have real roster spots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee2000
The guards we have going into the season right now are: Jrue, Lonzo, Redick, Moore, NAW, and Jackson.
I haven't done any serious analysis on this yet, but just on instinct I feel like rolling out Lonzo with Redick and Moore could help open up the offense with a little more spacing. Similarly, you could put out a lineup with Jrue, Lonzo, and Redick if you wanted to maximise defensive versatility while keeping some shooting on the floor: I imagine there would be some additional shooting from the bigs there, possibily with Melli involved. If Melli translates well to the NBA, I could see fairly severe Lonzo/Redick/Jrue/Melli/Zion minutes.
At the same time, if you wanted to maximise Ingram's abilities, you'd want to make sure he was on the floor with shooters. Possibly adding him to the Lonzo/Redick/Moore trio would give him a little more space to operate. 5th man in that lineup could change depending on how certain lineups work together. If Melli really does well, you could go with a mostly large lineup of something like Lonzo/Redick/Ingram/Melli/Zion, and then switch out Lonzo for Jrue as the rotation goes.
Plenty of time to work it out, but there's a lot of potential for very complex rotations. -
07-02-2019, 01:40 PMNMThreeMVPI hope Gentry and crew are up for all the scrutiny these rotations are going to get...Quote:
Originally Posted by Pelicanidae
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07-02-2019, 01:42 PMPelicanidae:hihi: like I said, I have barely even thought of them. I'm not saying they're good rotations. My criteria was literallyQuote:
Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP
1 ball handler + shooting + probably Zion
Which is not a great way to build a rotation in reality.
In fairness, it's not like Gentry's own rotations don't get scrutiny as it is. Rotation management has long been one of his weak points. -
07-02-2019, 01:53 PMPolishFanHave we traded Hart?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pelicanidae
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07-02-2019, 01:55 PMPelicanidaeNope, but I forgot he existed. Knew I was forgetting someone, but couldn't remember who.Quote:
Originally Posted by PolishFan
Like I said, no serious thought or analysis yet :hihi: this is what I get for typing stuff out on my phone while distracted. Gotta take my L -
07-02-2019, 02:26 PMPolishFanI recently realised that I often forget about him when I think about the team. We just have so many guardsQuote:
Originally Posted by Pelicanidae
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07-02-2019, 02:28 PMHornetGuru
What about a lineup of
Lonzo
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07-02-2019, 02:30 PMDroopyDawgNice small ball lineup. Gulden St does that when they put Draymond at the 5.Quote:
Originally Posted by HornetGuru
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07-02-2019, 02:31 PMPolishFanwe will probably see that line up during games but it won't be the starting oneQuote:
Originally Posted by HornetGuru
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07-02-2019, 02:36 PMHornetGuruAgreed I know that just curious of what people thought about it, I wonder if the advantage we gain offensively from having ingram at the 4 is larger than the defensive deficit of him guarding 4sQuote:
Originally Posted by PolishFan
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07-02-2019, 02:44 PMAs I See It
Unlike the role he played in Utah, I think Favors will be a bigger offensive factor with the Pelicans than most people imagine. In Utah, he wasn't required to score; nor did he play in an up tempo offense with a playmaker (so I am told) like Ball. Already a lifetime double digit scorer with a shooting percentage of 52% in an average of about 25 minutes a game, I suspect his numbers will blossom at Smoothie King.
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07-02-2019, 02:45 PM6warddudeQuote:
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if we have the lead with that lineup then teams will have to go small to adjust to us to try and cut into our lead... -
07-02-2019, 02:57 PMNola3
To go along with the theme of us having a bunch of guards: Gentry can get really weird experimenting if he wants. I know Hart has defended 4's on occasion so there's a possibility of a Jrue/JJ/Moore/Hart/Zion lineup just to get Zion to play in oceans of space. Or switch out Moore for Lonzo and Jrue for Frank and just tell them to literally never stop running. Not really suggesting either of these, but there's so many different lineups to try and I, for one, cannot ****ing wait to see them in action.
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07-02-2019, 02:59 PM13 - 3
76’ers offering a max deal to a guy that can’t shoot.
Philadelphia has offered a five-year, $168M maximum contract extension to Ben Simmons and the Sixers and agent Rich Paul are expected to work through the details toward an eventual agreement, league sources tell ESPN.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 2, 2019 -
07-02-2019, 03:05 PMLee2000
I believe Blueitt has a chance to make roster if he can hit the outside shot and spread the court. Just my view. I am careful not to say something is already set too early. Lots of competition is not a bad thing.
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07-02-2019, 03:13 PMAs I See ItMy longshot is Tony Carr. I think our need is greater as backup point guard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee2000
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07-02-2019, 03:55 PMkinglio21093
Dear God. Please let Kawhi curve the Lakers.
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07-02-2019, 05:40 PMPels4LifeI know....this is my new dream.Quote:
Originally Posted by kinglio21093
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07-02-2019, 06:42 PMJunkHead
Free agent Jared Dudley has agreed to a one-year, $2.6M deal with the Los Angeles Lakers, agent Mark Bartelstein of @PrioritySports tells ESPN.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 2, 2019
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07-02-2019, 06:51 PMluckyman
Thats not a "dammit" signing. Doesnt even make my eyebrow twitch.
Danny Green needs to get his act together and stop playin though. Go back to Toronto you fool. -
07-02-2019, 07:01 PM6warddudei think he is waiting on kawhi to make his move....green should get about 10mil a year......if kawhi goes to the lakers then maybe green go to dallas for the money....i dont see him going to the lakers with kawhi for less money but you never know....Quote:
Originally Posted by luckyman
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07-02-2019, 07:12 PMPelicanidae
Yeah, Jared Dudley is not a needle mover. He was talked about a lot of as possible Pels target, but that's only because he had value for us beyond his play, as a good locker-room vet. LA does not need that: they need high quality NBA players, and Dudley isn't really that anymore.
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07-02-2019, 08:10 PMJJackisangry
Something tells me Kawhi has placed a sizable bet in Vegas
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07-02-2019, 08:14 PMluckymanHe also did an interview on the Breakfast Club and said he might follow Kawhi to the Lakers if he goes there, or go bak to Toronto if he goes there. He's like a little puppy.Quote:
Originally Posted by 6warddude
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07-02-2019, 08:17 PMMount ZionThrough an intermediary of course.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by JJackisangry
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07-02-2019, 08:24 PMkinglio21093Would've been nice to bring him on board and back up Ingram. Guy always gave me fits whenever the Pels played him. Now I have to hate him even more for signing with the Fakers.Quote:
Originally Posted by JunkHead
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07-02-2019, 09:12 PMJunkHead
Heading to practice... let’s get better.. pic.twitter.com/GxPo4dtCpp
— Greivis Vasquez (@greivisvasquez) July 3, 2019
General Greivis coming back to NOLA?
Former NOLA (Hornets) guard Greivis Vasquez is serving as an assistant coach with the @PelicansNBA during @NBA summer league. https://t.co/xqxqAayqY5
— Fletcher Mackel (@FletcherWDSU) July 3, 2019
Assistant Coach! :D
Edit: Summer League it seems, but still cool! -
07-02-2019, 09:16 PMkinglio21093Gimme some Greivis with mashed potatoes!Quote:
Originally Posted by JunkHead
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07-02-2019, 09:20 PM6warddudewell damn,,he might know where kawhi is going.....they both may sign with their team on july 5....Quote:
Originally Posted by luckyman
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07-02-2019, 11:40 PMCreative– via Twitter MikeAScottoQuote:
Michael Scotto: The Brooklyn Nets and free agent forward Wilson Chandler have agreed to a one-year, $2.6 million deal, a league source told @The Athletic. First reported by Yahoo.
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Adrian Wojnarowski: Free agent guard Emmanuel Mudiay has agreed to a one-year deal with the Utah Jazz, league sources tell ESPN.
– via Twitter wojespnQuote:
Adrian Wojnarowski: Free agent Jeff Green has agreed to a one-year, $2.5M deal with Utah, league sources tell ESPN.
– via Twitter ChrisBHaynesQuote:
Chris Haynes: Free agent center Willie Cauley-Stein has reached an agreement with the Golden State Warriors, league sources tell Yahoo Sports. @Marcus Thompson first.
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07-03-2019, 12:47 AMkinglio21093
WCS on the Warriors could be a problem.
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07-03-2019, 02:23 AMPelicanidaeNot really. WCS is barely a starting calibre player. He's 12/7 on pretty good efficiency. Not a great rim protector, not super switchable like they prefer their bigs, He's okay, and that's good: they need more okay. They have nothing right now aside from their superstars, so okay works, but it's not like anyone should be more worried today than they were yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by kinglio21093
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07-03-2019, 08:06 AMDroopyDawgThink he's signing with the Mavs.Quote:
Originally Posted by luckyman
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07-03-2019, 08:17 AMMythrol
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/st...008362496?s=19
All Pels fans favorite "one that got away" Quinn Cook is now an unrestricted free agent.
Not that I necessarily think we are in play with him, we only have the minimum to offer (without making some move) and we'd have to dump a player for a roster spot but.... I mean some people were absolutely roasting Dell for letting him go. -
07-03-2019, 08:22 AMkinglio21093I see what you’re saying, but they were able to make JaVale McGee work well. WCS at least has more range than JaVale.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pelicanidae
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07-03-2019, 08:27 AMDroopyDawgCook would be our best option as a backup PG.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mythrol
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07-03-2019, 08:27 AMPelicanidaeThose people were being beyond silly though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mythrol
We have a glut of guards, most of them better than Quinn Cook. As a team that is currently built around running, defense, length, switchability, and positional versatility, a guy like Cook is a non-factor in my eyes. Not worth the roster spot. -
07-03-2019, 08:47 AMUNO Gracias
Green won’t sign until Kawhi signs, heck they are probably a package deal.
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07-03-2019, 09:01 AMAusPelA few days ago Green said it was time to maximise his earnings. I don't understand why he's waiting for KawhiQuote:
Originally Posted by UNO Gracias
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07-03-2019, 09:35 AM60minutes
Free agent Darius Miller has agreed to a two-year, $14.25M deal to stay with New Orleans, league source tells ESPN. The second-year is non-guaranteed.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 3, 2019
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07-03-2019, 09:38 AMDroopyDawgGood for Darius, and good for us. Year 2 isn't guaranteed so it CAN be a 1 year deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by 60minutes
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07-03-2019, 09:39 AMSleeper2019 Official NBA Free Agent thread
What in the hail? That’s a little expensive right?
Not like i am paying it but am i missing something?
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07-03-2019, 09:44 AMTaker597We are basically maxed on FA. Might as well pay Miller. Let the man have his bread. Plus, it's good for player relations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleeper
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07-03-2019, 09:46 AMAs I See It
Jabari Parker is still on the market. Since there is a glut at guard, perhaps we should move E'Twaun Moore and try to fill the team's need at forward. A life time double digit scorer who shoots better than 49%, there is speculation that Parker may return to the Wizards at a discounted rate.
Caution: to date he has been a health risk...enter Aaron Nelson.
Since there is only one year left on BI's contract, and because he may well be in demand next offseason in what sets up to be a weak free agency class, perhaps Parker could be an ideal insurance policy in the event Ingram is 'one and done'. Better yet, if by this year's trade deadline, BI refuses to commit to the team going forward, he could be moved so the Pelicans will not lose him without any recompense (ala: Nikola Mirotic). My hope would then be that Jabari could be inserted into the lineup.
Again, I would hate to see Moore go, but the upside and fit of Parker on this team is intriguing. -
07-03-2019, 09:49 AMCreativeBut we don't have any money left, right? Does this mean that Moore will be GONE?Quote:
Originally Posted by 60minutes
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07-03-2019, 09:50 AMWildlifeAirGrpDarius made a good decision. He knows it's going to fun playing in MSY.Quote:
Originally Posted by 60minutes
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07-03-2019, 09:51 AMPelicanidaeWe have Miller's rights, and can therefore go over the cap to resign him. This does not impact anything else we do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Creative
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07-03-2019, 09:51 AM13 - 3
Trajan Langdon sensed a disturbance in the force, as another Duke Blue Devil became available on the free agent market. https://t.co/kMStl09a4e
— The Bird Writes (@thebirdwrites) July 3, 2019 -
07-03-2019, 09:54 AMCreativeThanks for explaining my friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pelicanidae