Pelicans finalizing trade for Asik

Obviously, we were supposed to get a player with Asik's skill set to spiral into existence out of the ether, while only giving away 3 pounds of lint and the shattered remains of my respect for Microsoft...

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Originally Posted by MistaWhoDat

One thing I don't like is all the negativity about this trade . We get a top center with elite defensive skill set that will help AD out as a player and keep him from taking a beating defending the basket because we have no one else to do it . Asik guarantees this and draft pick in the first round doesn't guarantee anything . See Oden , Bennett and countless others . We got an elite defensive center in his prime I think everybody should be happy and stop thinking were missing out on the next Lebron next year .

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People seem to always be enamored with the unknown over a certainty.

If I have to pick someone to get rid of, it's for sure rivers.

Also look at what afflalo went for. He's a much better player and I still think he could have fit with us as a 3

Is the Austin Rivers national speculation based off MM's tweets about rivers and Gordon needing to be moved? Or has there been newer info released?

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Originally Posted by IamQuailman

Is the Austin Rivers national speculation based off MM's tweets about rivers and Gordon needing to be moved? Or has there been newer info released?

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I haven't seen anything Rivers related that wasn't just speculation. But it's the obvious move to make if you can find a taker. No one is going to take Gordon which means you have to choose between trading Ryan Anderson or Austin Rivers, Ely, Miller, and Babbit. You choose keeping Anderson every time unless a team wants to over pay you for him.

The only thing other than Mm's speculation was a tweet or two last night from some media guys saying the Pels were trying to move Rivers for cap.

I met him just a awesome guy he is starting caliber center He worked hard to get those starter minutes so he deserves this.Omer's an elite rebounder and a great defender in the post and on the PnR. Very smart and rugged. And is much better than advertised on offense.he is a true warrior plays with all his heart and soul.the best move for this year.you guys should celebrate this news


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs_leHWiZsY

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

The only thing other than Mm's speculation was a tweet or two last night from some media guys saying the Pels were trying to move Rivers for cap.

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Windhorst's tweet this morning.

And the fact that one of the six contracts must be moved. That is not speculation. It is pure math

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Originally Posted by IamQuailman

Is the Austin Rivers national speculation based off MM's tweets about rivers and Gordon needing to be moved? Or has there been newer info released?

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More dominos will fall in Asik-to-Pelicans deal. N.O. may move Austin Rivers to create cap space. One option: dad Doc owns trade exception

— Brian Windhorst (@WindhorstESPN) June 26, 2014

I would love for Doc and Austin to work together. At least then people couldn't say the coach wasn't giving him opportunities.

I don't want Rivers to go :(

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Originally Posted by NOLA_Dave

More dominos will fall in Asik-to-Pelicans deal. N.O. may move Austin Rivers to create cap space. One option: dad Doc owns trade exception

— Brian Windhorst (@WindhorstESPN) June 26, 2014

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Yea, but this is just speculation as well. He may get moved. That COULD be an option. Not saying Pels WILL move him

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Originally Posted by IamQuailman

Yea, but this is just speculation as well. He may get moved. That COULD be an option. Not saying Pels WILL move him

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Right. Because that would be called a trade.

If the question is: Has an official trade been made, of course the answer is no.

But the undeniable fact is that one of the 6 contracts will need to be moved to bring in Asik. That is not speculation.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Right. Because that would be called a trade.

If the question is: Has an official trade been made, of course the answer is no.

But the undeniable fact is that one of the 6 contracts will need to be moved to bring in Asik. That is not speculation.

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All I'm saying is that these guys are speculating that he could be moved and clippers could be an option. I haven't heard anything official saying that they are actively shopping him is all I'm getting at. I mean we could me tyreke, Jrue, Ryno, Gordon, or any of the other guys too to clear up cap. Again, me saying that we could move them to free space isn't wrong. Highly unlikely? Yes. All I was asking was if any reports said definitely that he's actively being shopped and pushed to be moved.

No need to be a jerk and condescending about it. Jeez. Glad I'm getting the negative press because people here think I'm that quail man ****** on tiger droppings. Sorry folks, different guy.

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Originally Posted by IamQuailman

All I'm saying is that these guys are speculating that he could be moved and clippers could be an option. I haven't heard anything official saying that they are actively shopping him is all I'm getting at. I mean we could me tyreke, Jrue, Ryno, Gordon, or any of the other guys too to clear up cap. Again, me saying that we could move them to free space isn't wrong. Highly unlikely? Yes. All I was asking was if any reports said definitely that he's actively being shopped and pushed to be moved.

No need to be a jerk and condescending about it. Jeez. Glad I'm getting the negative press because people here think I'm that quail man ****** on tiger droppings. Sorry folks, different guy.

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Just saying, if there was an official trade I am sure this forum would have a post for that.

I dont know what makes reports more speculation and more fact in your mind. All I can tell you is that one of those six contracts has to be moved. Process of elimination probably narrows that down to Ryno and Rivers since Gordon is virtually unmoveable.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Right. Because that would be called a trade.

If the question is: Has an official trade been made, of course the answer is no.

But the undeniable fact is that one of the 6 contracts will need to be moved to bring in Asik. That is not speculation.

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Going to write about some trade ideas and such on bss or waiting for draft night to pass?

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Originally Posted by Kurgan

Going to write about some trade ideas and such on bss or waiting for draft night to pass?

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Just waiting. Tired of the What if's

We should have our answer in a few hours.

Dell Demps turned five first round picks

2012 - NOP
2012 - MIN
2013 - NOP
2014 - NOP
2015 - NOP

Into one franchise cornerstone (Davis), two quality starters (Holiday, Asik), and one quality rotation player (Rivers). So he's batting .800 in the first round. How many NBA GM's kill for that?

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Originally Posted by David Fisher

Dell Demps turned five first round picks

2012 - NOP
2012 - MIN
2013 - NOP
2014 - NOP
2015 - NOP

Into one franchise cornerstone (Davis), two quality starters (Holiday, Asik), and one quality rotation player (Rivers). So he's batting .800 in the first round. How many NBA GM's kill for that?

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But the unknown! The unknown!

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I dont know what makes reports more speculation and more fact in your mind.

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"I've heard rumors from team sources" vs. "I've surmised because I looked at the salary cap situation". If the Phoenix rumor hadn't come from a source with a track record but instead you saying you've done the math and this is the optimal trade, it would get weighed differently. That's no slight on your powers of deduction, but there is a difference between a reliable source saying "I see smoke" and a smart source saying "this is where my best calculations say the fire should be." Both should be taken seriously, but if you have a credible report of smoke...

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Originally Posted by David Fisher

Dell Demps turned five first round picks

2012 - NOP
2012 - MIN
2013 - NOP
2014 - NOP
2015 - NOP

Into one franchise cornerstone (Davis), two quality starters (Holiday, Asik), and one quality rotation player (Rivers). So he's batting .800 in the first round. How many NBA GM's kill for that?

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To add on, only one was top 5 and the next highest pick was the 6th pick in the weakest draft in the last decade. Pretty impressive, and it seems to be ignored with all the criticism.

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Originally Posted by BP225

"I've heard rumors from team sources" vs. "I've surmised because I looked at the salary cap situation". If the Phoenix rumor hadn't come from a source with a track record but instead you saying you've done the math and this is the optimal trade, it would get weighed differently. That's no slight on your powers of deduction, but there is a difference between a reliable source saying "I see smoke" and a smart source saying "this is where my best calculations say the fire should be." Both should be taken seriously, but if you have a credible report of smoke...

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This is basically what I was getting at, but world cup beers have me not at my peak typing capacity. Haha

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Originally Posted by JunkHead

I said it earlier, but I'll say it again. Houston is clearing up space for Carmelo or Lebron. I only hope Carmelo chooses Chicago. And Lebron choose... anywhere in the east hopefully. Asik is a damn nice grab, but I really would not want Houston to get Melo or James. That would be poop.

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Are you really concerned about the Rockets ever winning a championship if they would have Harden and Carmelo playing defense, I mean, supposed to be playing defense? I'm not. They'd be known as the Olè Brothers.

There's two sides of the BB court, as they say.

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Originally Posted by David Fisher

Dell Demps turned five first round picks

2012 - NOP
2012 - MIN
2013 - NOP
2014 - NOP
2015 - NOP

Into one franchise cornerstone (Davis), two quality starters (Holiday, Asik), and one quality rotation player (Rivers). So he's batting .800 in the first round. How many NBA GM's kill for that?

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Guys, it's not that easy. Add up the $$$ you're spending and then do the comparisons. It's not a matter of just looking at the players.

With these players we've yet to play in a single playoff game. We have to see something from these guys as a group before we say that Demps has done a great job. This team needs to be at least in the 2nd round of the playoffs in the next few years. If not, this is a screw-up.

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Originally Posted by BP225

"I've heard rumors from team sources" vs. "I've surmised because I looked at the salary cap situation". If the Phoenix rumor hadn't come from a source with a track record but instead you saying you've done the math and this is the optimal trade, it would get weighed differently. That's no slight on your powers of deduction, but there is a difference between a reliable source saying "I see smoke" and a smart source saying "this is where my best calculations say the fire should be." Both should be taken seriously, but if you have a credible report of smoke...

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I guess - but trades rely on two parties. So even if we are trying something, and that is legit, that is more of an unknown than the absolute fact that the salary cap dictates that we can not have the Finishing 5, Rivers, and Asik on the books.

I would think that is more fire, our attempt at a trade more smoke.