You don't know that. If he drafts a top notch SG like a Shabazz, McElmore, etc., then there's a good chance he would trade an injury prone overpaid Gordon for something similar to that.Quote:
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03-04-2013, 10:16 PMPelicans78
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03-04-2013, 10:19 PMkclaboy504Well now your get way off base with projecting diff situations and who we might draft n all that. I think u guys totally dismiss how good eg really is cause of these past 2 years. He has played out the rest of the year staying healthy n looking better. He is no where near where he can be. Give him an off season with the team to sync and get his strength n conditioning back. I think we will see the super star we traded for and hoped for. Dude is a beast.Quote:
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03-04-2013, 10:21 PMkclaboy504And I wouldn't call shabazz a TOP NOTCH sg either...nothing about him screams top notch...mclemore on the other hand!!!! Oh my goodness u got me excited now lol..we get mclemore I couldn't care less what happens to Gordon lol...I honestly think mclemore is a super star in the makingQuote:
Originally Posted by Pelicans78
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03-04-2013, 10:23 PMUNO Gracias
Parsons & Asik> Gordon
You get 2 guys that aren't injured. one of the best defensive centers in the league, the other is one of the better sf's in the league.
You give up a guy that has all star potential, but is always hurt.
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03-04-2013, 10:25 PMPelicans78How is it way off base? Just because you're a Gordon homer doesn't mean the team think he's a viable long-term option especially with his contract. He's never proven to stay healthy for a full-season, his contract is too high since he's never produced as a max (14 million per year) player in any 82 game stretch. Sure he's really talented and is still young, but don't pretend that he's untouchable.Quote:
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03-04-2013, 10:27 PMkclaboy504Absolutely not...they both get paid bottom half money in their positions for a reason...js.Quote:
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03-04-2013, 10:29 PMkclaboy504jQuote:
Originally Posted by Pelicans78
Dude I'm far from a Gordon homer trust me I just said draft mclemore and I couldn't care less what happens to Gordon. What I was saying is the original discussion was this proposed trade. Im discussing the trade based upon the now. I'm saying ur getting off base now cause ur projecting IF we draft this guy n that guy...I can come up with a bunch of scenarios to trade him too...see what I'm saying now?? Dam dude chill out -
03-04-2013, 10:31 PMkclaboy504And I think when dell gave him his max contract that was the team saying hey Gordon you are a viable long term optionQuote:
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03-04-2013, 10:32 PMUNO Gracias
Because one is on a rookie contract, and the other is strictly def?
Because that foolish gm you were referring to knows how to get good contracts that don't kill the team?
There are plenty of guys on contracts making more than those guys, and doing less. is the $ figure on your contract tell you how good a player you are? Explain Baron Davis and Reshard Lewis. -
03-04-2013, 10:32 PMPelicans78Not at all. Demps didn't want to give him away without getting any value in return.Quote:
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03-04-2013, 10:34 PMkclaboy504If that's the case what happ with Jeremy Lin contract?? WAAAAAAYYYY OVER PAID!!!!!! Nice try thoQuote:
Originally Posted by UNO Gracias
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03-04-2013, 10:35 PMkclaboy504When u give a guy the max that is injury prone ur hoping he becomes a viable long term option not hoping to trade u for a couple cheap role players...your logic is flawedQuote:
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03-04-2013, 10:35 PMMr. MojoI'm glad someone gets it. I don't care how small a minority im in, we should be glad to have a player like gordon and we definitely don't need to "escape" from his contract on such terrible terms as those suggested. We have the guy locked up for another 2 or 3 years. Be patient people.Quote:
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03-04-2013, 10:38 PMPelicans78I didn't say cheap role players. I just said he didn't want to lose Gordon for anything. Big difference.Quote:
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03-04-2013, 10:39 PMkclaboy504Guys r silly man I tell ya. They think dell matched Gordon's offer JUST not to lose him with no value in return. Not hoping he becomes a viable long term option. LolQuote:
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03-04-2013, 10:40 PMkclaboy504Are u saying parsons and asik aren't cheap role players??Quote:
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03-04-2013, 10:40 PMUNO Gracias
I believe the Rockets are happy with Lin. 12/6/3/1 from your 3rd option on offense (Harden, and Parsons being the first 2). Not bad money for what you get in return.
Asik is also doing very well for his contract. 10/11/1 solid defender. Not bad contracts at all.
Now explain to me how the $ figure on your contract can tell how good a player you are. Baron Davis and Reshard Lewis have clown contracts, and they aren't even the best 2nd to last person on a bench. -
03-04-2013, 10:41 PMPelicans78Everyone hopes Gordon is a long-term viable option when he gets healthy. That's not the point. The point is he doesn't have much value right now. And if he was an unrestricted FA, Demps wouldn't have given him that contract. He matched because he hopes Gordon is a viable long-term option AND he didn't want to lose him without getting any value in return.Quote:
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03-04-2013, 10:42 PMkclaboy504You stated that I don't know the team thinks of Gordon as a viable long term piece. When in fact the contract says different.Quote:
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03-04-2013, 10:42 PMUNO GraciasThere was value for Gordon (much more than there is now), Del realized letting him go for nothing would be foolish, when all you have to do is match a contract (with cash you have ample of), and trade him off later to a team desperate enough. Who else was he going to spend the money on?Quote:
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03-04-2013, 10:42 PMkclaboy504Ok there u go much better said. That's what I already said lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Pelicans78
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03-04-2013, 10:45 PMkclaboy504No sorry you don't just dish out max money for the sake of it. Hoping to trade off later to a desperate team. When u give a guy max money your 1st hope is he becomes a long term piece for many years to come. PeriodQuote:
Originally Posted by UNO Gracias
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03-04-2013, 10:46 PMUNO Gracias
Who said he is making max money?
And how does the $ on your contract determine how good a player you are? You never answered that. Davis is making a pittance of what Gordon is, yet Davis is the better player. -
03-04-2013, 10:47 PMPelicans78They're not that cheap and both are still pretty young. Parsons is 24 and puts up 15/5/5 a game. Osik averages 10/11 (he stinks offensively). They're more than role players. Complimentary player is a better term.Quote:
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03-04-2013, 11:10 PMRUFshreve
Anyone else not want to trade Gordon, Vasquez, or Lopez and just draft Otto Porter?