You honestly think the most the Hawks get for him is a bad contract, an expiring draft disappointment and 2 2nd round picks? If so, he would have been gone yesterday.
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Maybe. He's been in trade rumors for years. He doesn't have much value is all I'm saying. He's still on the Hawks because they can't get jack for him. If they could get value, he would have been gone yesterday.
Do I want him on the Pelicans? Not really. We could do better with a $26 million slot on our team.
The trade market seems a bit crazy right now due to the ridiculous Gobert trade. I think many teams think they can get a bunch for their players. I wonder if it is going to be a slow trade deadline as a result.
OG Anunoby
Jordan Clarkson
Are two guys that I want.
Poeltl is fools gold.
There is no solution for 5. Finding another bandaid that doesn't fit is just poor asset management. Wish they double dip last draft and got Jalen Duren to develop.
I think the potential for a slow trade deadline (who knows how it will eventually end up) is a result of the play-in. Teams have hope. Incentive not to tank. This is good for the league and the games. Bad for fans who get excited more about transactions (no judgments). How many teams are legitimately "out of it"? Orlando, Charlotte, Detroit, San Antonio and Houston. That's it. The rest are within a few games of the 10 seed. So if those are the only "sellers", that's not good cause all those teams suck and lack quality players to target. Everyone says Toronto is a seller but they're .5 games out of the 10 seed.
The Pelicans have discussed Jaxson
Hayes, Naji Marshall and Devonte
Graham in preliminary conversations
around the league, sources said. Hayes
will become a restricted free agent this
offseason. Graham still has two years at
over $12 million for each season
remaining on his contract. - Jake Fischer
And water is wet...
Yeah but OG wants out and Toronto want to avoid the tax they would be smart to trade him while he has years on his contract. Plus they can't keep OG and Fred. It's not just about making the playoffs or play in for some teams, it's always about the future years ahead.
The appeal for Collins is that he's young, under contract for years, better defensively than a lot of people think (though not elite, ofc), and the hope that part of his recent offensive struggles come from his well known dislike of playing with Trae.
For example, it's easy to say that he's shooting badly this year - and it's true, he is - but I think it's also fair to assume that in a different team context he might bounce back to his past standard: he shot 37.9% from 3 on about 700 attempts over the 4 years prior to this one, so it's not unreasonable to assume that this is a negative outlier stemming from general struggles with the team rather than a lack of shooting ability.
I feel like we will stand where we are this year. Pretty boring, but could be worse.
Eh, that's not entirely true - he's been surprisingly good even this year at the 5 as long as Trae hasn't been in the lineup. In the N.O. did a pod a while back breaking down potential C trade targets, including JC, and in minutes where he's playing the 5 the team actually performs well as long as Trae isn't there. Of course there's some arguments that this could be due to other people he tends to share the floor is but then that's where we start to get into discussions of lineup versatility instead of individual capacity.
Id take either Naz Reid or John Collins and try and move JV for someone else at G/F that is a shooter. But I don’t expect the Pels to blow up their bench and their locker room. Moving the salary to get JC, and then moving JV, feels like too many people going out for a midseason trade. That’s the one of the reasons I lean toward Naz. It’s easier to match his salary and maintain some continuity.
He has not been really good (on defensive end) at the 5 almost his entire career. He is undersized for the 5 as well. That is why Atlanta went after Capela. He supposedly was more comfortable at the 4. I would not want to invest the draft capital and cap room on him.
Agree. I do not see Griff completely changing the team and locker room. Naz would be fine as a project since he is so young. However, he is really bad on the defensive end and commits a lot of fouls. He is getting much better on offensive end. He is a decent shot blocker.
Something like Juancho and Willy to Wolves, JV and Kira to Raptors, and Trent and Naz to Pels with whatever 2nds or protected picks needing to go to wherever. Also creates a roster spot and some cap space for another move if a good deal is available. The created space plus Graham+Temple could get you a pretty solid player if you’re willing to throw in multiple picks.
I'm not arguing with whether he's best suited at the 5 or 4, I agree with you that he's best suited at the 4. But the numbers are pretty suggestive of the fact that he can be fine as the 5 in certain lineups, even without Capela also on the floor and it's just not really useful to pretend otherwise.
Trade 1
Miami gets: Hernangomez and Graham
New Orleans gets: Duncan Robinson
then.....
Trade 2
New York gets: JAX
Chicago gets: Cam Reddish, and Lottery protected pick this year
New Orleans gets: Alex Caruso
NO PARTICULAR ORDER
PG: Jose', DD, Kira
SG: CJ, Caruso, Herb
SF: BI, Robinson, Temple
PF: # 1, 3M3, Naji
C: JV, Nance
Collins can shoot and dunk he what jaxson and is supposed to be
This team need shooters in the worst way. At a minimum we need Bamba and Beasley. Collins or any or decent names player would be icing.
If we were to move on from JV, what?s the minimum you?d take for him and who would we replace him with?
It's worth noting that when I support a JC trade, that's not instead of JV for the most part, it's an 'as well as' trade. JC would be playing C only in the sort of lineups Nance currently plays C in - and the fun thing is that you could play Nance at the 4 still alongside JC in those lineups because he provides a very different defensive look.
Still need a defensive c especially if you move JV and Jax. Bamba would be nice. What would golden state give up for JV? I’ve liked Kuminga.
Nick Richard would be an excellent get too.
Pels
HARTENSTEIN
BOGDANOVIC
Pistons
2025 NOLA pick (top 3 protected)
Graham
Temple
Knicks
Hayes
Willy
Two Pels future 2nds
Instead of taking on Collins salary, I'd rather make a trade for a guard then go after Taylor Hendricks in the draft. He's pretty similiar to Collins except he's better on defense. I think he's the type of big man Willie would love.
UCF's Taylor Hendricks looked like a lotto pick vs. the nation's top team. Popped more than Jarace Walker in this one, beat him few times. Only NCAA player with 30 3s, 30 blocks, 25 dunks. Easy fit 3-D frontcourt player with tools, finishing, rim protection to play small-ball 5. pic.twitter.com/nUNXQ0qQxQ
— Jonathan Wasserman (@NBADraftWass) January 27, 2023
Hendrix looks good. I like GG Jackson and Leonard Miller too.
Just got an alert from Bleacher that we're in on OG.
Quote:
Suns, Pels, Pacers in on OG
Phoenix, New Orleans and Indiana join Knicks in race to trade for Anunoby (Shams)
Billy's 'chopped meat'?
Look. I don't want to get rid of JV at all, but it's apparent that the team doesn't believe in him. If they did, they wouldn't be playing a guy giving up 40 pounds and 4 inches** to the 'apparent MVP' this year while the team is giving up offensive rebounds so much that the folks seated on the otherside of the court wanted their money back.
**Just like we gave up 35 #'s and 4 inches in the Murrray / Alvarado match up.
Need to get Achuewa if we got OG.
I can't help but see his name as OG Anybody
Can a pick swap be traded? Because it would be really valuable to a good team. Thinking like pick swap with lakers for Joe Harris from the Nets
For those curious like I am his real (first) name is Ogugua.. and I appreciate him for going by OG.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/O.G._Anunoby