January 27th - New Orleans Pelicans VS Washington Wizards - 5-10

I hate the body language from some of these Pelicans players. Too much moping after a mistake or a miss.

beal is the only player that can beat us tonight and we do nothing to get the ball out of his hands....

finally BI coming through in the clutch.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

At this point trading for Beal should just be seen as a form of playing defense. We can't guard the guy so why not just have him on the roster.

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unfortunately, this logic holds true for about 28 other teams too.... he would sure fit well here though...

Up 13 with 4 minutes left.

Come on guys.

Beautiful BI

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Originally Posted by ramsters60

unfortunately, this logic holds true for about 28 other teams too....

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You're right.

We can't guard anyone so we should just trade for all their best players so there's no one left to score on us. It's novel, but ambitious.

Defense is a lost art in today’s NBA and it’s sad to see.

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Originally Posted by ramsters60

unfortunately, this logic holds true for about 28 other teams too....

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Half the league can't even trade draft capital for him though, we'd have to be in the upper echelon of suitors just by default.

EDIT: Misread that

In 28 minutes thus far, Zion has 2 Rebounds; one offensive and one defensive.

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Originally Posted by Funcrusher

Half the league can't even trade draft capital for him though, we'd have to be in the upper echelon of suitors just by default.

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Yeah I think I'd be pretty comfortable trading as many as 4 first for him as long as they weren't all our firsts.

Like if we gave them 2 of the Milwaukee picks, a Lakers, pick, and one of our own or something.

fatigoo..

Pels announcers lmao. They must read this board with how complimentary they are of BB. Love it tho

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

You're right.

We can't guard anyone so we should just trade for all their best players so there's no one left to score on us. It's novel, but ambitious.

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you are such a good poster...and I am sincere about that too...

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Originally Posted by Funcrusher

Pels announcers lmao. They must read this board with how complimentary they are of BB. Love it tho

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Joel accidentally said Beal made a layup when it was Bledsoe. Hope it’s future timeline cross contamination.

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Originally Posted by Funcrusher

Pels announcers lmao. They must read this board with how complimentary they are of BB. Love it tho

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He's great though. I've been super reluctant to commit to the ''trade for Beal'' train because of his last two seasons of being legitimate garbage-fire on defense but I think at a certain point you just have to credit him with the ridiculous scoring, the off-ball skills that tell you he'll retain offensive value alongside other stars, and the fact that he's been such a team player on such a terrible team.

The reluctance has to fade at some point and I think we're all at that point where everyone acknowledges Beal needs a trade, and everyone also knows the Pels need a switchup at guard, so it all makes sense.

Did Ball get injured or benched?

Pels finishing strong

Zion and BI have combined for 64 points on 35 shots.

That's good, by the way.

They're 24/35 from the floor for 68.7%

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Originally Posted by Taker597

Did Ball get injured or benched?

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Tweaked his ankle and sat out the rest of the game.

Ball injured still no Kira

Free this man pic.twitter.com/uvXYYwI7cr

— Mason Ginsberg (@MasonGinsberg) January 28, 2021

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Yeah I think I'd be pretty comfortable trading as many as 4 first for him as long as they weren't all our firsts.

Like if we gave them 2 of the Milwaukee picks, a Lakers, pick, and one of our own or something.

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If we can manage to scoop him up and keep NAW/Kira, mannnnnn, we'd be set for the future so good.

Not even sure our defense would take a huge hit if we swapped Lonzo/Bled for him. They get lit up by every semi-talented guard in the league.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Tweaked his ankle and sat out the rest of the game.

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Chicken legs strike again...

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Originally Posted by Taker597

Did Ball get injured or benched?

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Turned his ankle. Then a trainer locked him in a closet so he couldn’t come back out.

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Originally Posted by Funcrusher

If we can manage to scoop him up and keep NAW/Kira, mannnnnn, we'd be set for the future so good.

Not even sure our defense would take a huge hit if we swapped Lonzo/Bled for him. They get lit up by every semi-talented guard in the league.

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Yeah that's where I'm at. Like, yeah I don't think Beal is going to help our defensive issues at all but at the same time we are already getting murdered by everyone so it's not really like he can make it much worse. The offensive addition would be huge.

FINAL: Pelicans 124, Wizards 106

- BI: 32p, 12/19 FG, 7/12 3P, 8a, 6r
- Zion: 32p, 12/16 FG, 2r, 2a, 2s, 1b
- Bled: 18p, 7r, 4a
- Adams: 6p, 18r (season high)

- Pelicans starting forwards: 64p
- Wizards starting forwards: 9p

— Andrew Lopez (@_Andrew_Lopez) January 28, 2021

Beal is so good!! Please trade for him

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Originally Posted by PelicanNation

Ball injured still no Kira

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Don't understand why old school coaches do this. Gentry was the same. It's like they're allergic to playing younger guys for some reason. We're not even a playoff team at the moment. Let Kira develop.

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Originally Posted by Taker597

Chicken legs strike again...

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He did seem to have Beal on lockdown (defensively) until he left the game. So I guess that's something.

Sick of it

— Kamiah Adams-Beal (@KamiahAdams) January 28, 2021

*ahem*

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Originally Posted by Funcrusher

If we can manage to scoop him up and keep NAW/Kira, mannnnnn, we'd be set for the future so good.

Not even sure our defense would take a huge hit if we swapped Lonzo/Bled for him. They get lit up by every semi-talented guard in the league.

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Yes indeed. Sign me up. His defense i?m sure will improve at least a little with our emphasis on it.


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Originally Posted by Funcrusher

Don't understand why old school coaches do this. Gentry was the same. It's like they're allergic to playing younger guys for some reason. We're not even a playoff team at the moment. Let Kira develop.

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"Culture". Got to earn minutes to them. Feel like that giving out minutes builds coddle stars. Got to put them in a grinder on the bench and really make them want it.


Or some nonsense like that.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Free this man pic.twitter.com/uvXYYwI7cr

? Mason Ginsberg (@MasonGinsberg) January 28, 2021

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Bring him home, Griff

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Sick of it

— Kamiah Adams-Beal (@KamiahAdams) January 28, 2021

*ahem*

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They had him out there for 2 quarters without rest and almost no help. I can't blame her.

pic.twitter.com/KsJlHg812g

— Tyler (@TyNOLA5) January 28, 2021

Bring this man to New Orleans.

I hate to be that guy but Beal turns 28 this year. He doesn?t fit the timeline. He is awesome though.

I?m keeping my picks, hope I luck out in the lottery and land a stud like Cade or Green and dominate for the next decade.

If Kira doesn’t get at least 15 minutes next game I swear...

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Originally Posted by Chris

He did seem to have Beal on lockdown (defensively) until he left the game. So I guess that's something.

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You are absolutely right, Chris. Beal came alive in the second half. In fact, Washington won the second half, 61 to 60 and this was a back to back for them.

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Originally Posted by Chris

He did seem to have Beal on lockdown (defensively) until he left the game. So I guess that's something.

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He did, people can say what they want about Lonzo but he is a stellar defender.

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Originally Posted by Taker597

"Culture". Got to earn minutes to them. Feel like that giving out minutes builds coddle stars. Got to put them in a grinder on the bench and really make them want it.


Or some nonsense like that.

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Yeah, I feel like it has to do with some weird boomerism concept of "earning your stripes" or some such nonsense like that. Also feel like these older coaches are programmed to coach like every game is their job, and they just don't trust rookies to not make mistakes, which is illogical, because how are these guys supposed to learn if they're getting yanked every time they do something wrong? It's weird, for sure.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

I hate to be that guy but Beal turns 28 this year. He doesn?t fit the timeline. He is awesome though.

I?m keeping my picks, hope I luck out in the lottery and land a stud like Cade or Green and dominate for the next decade.

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Technically neither does Adams. Can't wait 5 years to be good and can't all be under 25. You need good vets for a growing team.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

I hate to be that guy but Beal turns 28 this year. He doesn?t fit the timeline. He is awesome though.

I?m keeping my picks, hope I luck out in the lottery and land a stud like Cade or Green and dominate for the next decade.

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This is absurd.

Beal is 27 right now. He probably has at least 5 good strong years left in him: that takes you basically through to the end of Zion's second contract.

He absolutely fits the timeline. We know we aren't a championship contender this year, or next year, but we should absolutely be a consistent playoff team within the next few seasons, and Beal completely fits that. Acting like we're only allowed to look at players 25 or under is ridiculous.

And yeah, you keep your picks, but you can't actually use all of them. No use having 13 first round picks in the next six years, it's not like you're going to turnover your entire roster annually to account for them all. Make sure you have at least one FRP for every draft but feel free to move swaps and duplicates to acquire sure fire talent.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

I hate to be that guy but Beal turns 28 this year. He doesn?t fit the timeline. He is awesome though.

I?m keeping my picks, hope I luck out in the lottery and land a stud like Cade or Green and dominate for the next decade.

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The "timeline" is overrated. And 28 is pretty damn young, he should realistically have like 4-5 more prime years in him.

EDIT: Dae beat me to it.

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Originally Posted by Taker597

Technically neither does Adams. Can't wait 5 years to be good and can't all be under 25. You need good vets for a growing team.

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We didn’t give up 4 picks for Adam’s...

That’s what people are suggesting for Beal. He’s isn’t a good vet, he’s a superstar lol. Please tell me you understand the difference in value veteeen Adam’s and Beal

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

This is absurd.

Beal is 27 right now. He probably has at least 5 good strong years left in him: that takes you basically through to the end of Zion's second contract.

He absolutely fits the timeline. We know we aren't a championship contender this year, or next year, but we should absolutely be a consistent playoff team within the next few seasons, and Beal completely fits that. Acting like we're only allowed to look at players 25 or under is ridiculous.

And yeah, you keep your picks, but you can't actually use all of them. No use having 13 first round picks in the next six years, it's not like you're going to turnover your entire roster annually to account for them all. Make sure you have at least one FRP for every draft but feel free to move swaps and duplicates to acquire sure fire talent.

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The only tough move is that they'll want our 2021 pick or a bunch of later year picks from the Bucks or Lakers. Ehhhh... Probably the Bucks picks.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

We didn’t give up 4 picks for Adam’s...

That’s what people are suggesting for Beal. He’s isn’t a good vet, he’s a superstar lol. Please tell me you understand the difference in value veteeen Adam’s and Beal

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Well, we got 4 picks to give up and still be +3.

You just got to know which Picks to burn.

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Originally Posted by Taker597

The only tough move is that they'll want our 2021 pick or a bunch of later year picks from the Bucks or Lakers. Ehhhh... Probably the Bucks picks.

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I'd basically say that our 2021 pick is off limits, but they can have something like
2022 + Bucks 2024 + Bucks 2026 + Lakers pick of their choice.

Add in Lonzo and Redick, potentially Melli if we need it to match contracts. Obviously Melli sucks but he's not going there for player value he's going there for salary filler and expiring value.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

This is absurd.

Beal is 27 right now. He probably has at least 5 good strong years left in him: that takes you basically through to the end of Zion's second contract.

He absolutely fits the timeline. We know we aren't a championship contender this year, or next year, but we should absolutely be a consistent playoff team within the next few seasons, and Beal completely fits that. Acting like we're only allowed to look at players 25 or under is ridiculous.

And yeah, you keep your picks, but you can't actually use all of them. No use having 13 first round picks in the next six years, it's not like you're going to turnover your entire roster annually to account for them all. Make sure you have at least one FRP for every draft but feel free to move swaps and duplicates to acquire sure fire talent.

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Ingram is about 3-4 years from his prime and Zion is about 6-7. Yeah sure we would be a good team but Beal would be exiting his prime right around when Ingram starts his and before Zion even sniffs his. You’d give up this years first which has a good shot of possibly getting the #1 pick and getting Cade and getting to watch those 3 for the next 10 years?

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Originally Posted by Taker597

Well, we got 4 picks to give up and still be +3.

You just got to know which Picks to burn.

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Lol you think they’re giving up Beal for late firsts? No, they’d want this years pick which will be top 5 and a bunch of protected firsts.