Yep. It leaves so little margin for error. If we are turning it over, it’s game over
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I think Zion's conditioning is overblown. When he came back from injury... He had only 2 games of 18-20 minutes. Then he got bumped up to 27 -29 minute avg for 5 games. Then the rest of the season... He avg around 30-32 minutes a night for a 10 games straight.
But I 100% agree we play way too fast on most nights. It leads to constant turnovers.
Yeah let’s fire the Executive of the year candidate . This coming from Yahoo too.
https://sports.yahoo.com/m/077e05b8-...ve-of-the.html
That would put us in the right path. Lol
I like Griffin. Gentry can go
Move this thread to tiger droppings. This is garbage
Anyone who seriously thinks Griff should be fired is either a complete idiot or a troll. Both of which should be ignored. There are a lot of smart people on this board and if we cultivated our own respectful conversations and disagreements instead of entertaining ridiculous notions like this, PR would be a much better place.
I mean that really doesn’t say a lot About Griffin right now. Zion was an easy pick and the Lakers trade hasn’t really amounted to much yet. Maybe it’ll look great one day but it’s still TBD at this point. Maybe if they make the Playoffs I can see it but OKC has just as good of an offseason as well and they are a bonafide Playoff team. Then you have off seasons from the Clippers as well as Miami and probably Dallas. They have as much claim if not more for the moves they’ve made. Griffin’s claim to fame is through Lebron so I wouldn’t use that against Pelinka right now. He made some masterful moves to fill that team with a bunch of players who knows how to win.
What team have you been watching? Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t griffin responsible for the acquisitions of players and coaches on this team ? Isn’t he responsible for hiring one of the worst defensive coordinators in the nba who came from a defense ranked next to last? Isn’t he responsible for keeping Alvin Gentry past the all star break when we damn near lost 20 games straight. I won’t even go into players playing who wouldn’t even see playing time on good teams.
Certified troll
Where were you when we lost almost 20 games straight or when we just got our butts handed to us vs the clippers the other day ? Let’s just ignore the losses I guess huh. Everyone wants to settle for mediocrity and turn their heads during the losses. If we were rebuilding and actually putting the right pieces in place. I would understand, but putting the wrong pieces in the process will hurt the team as well. Nobody wants to talk about griff hiring the worst defensive coordinator in the nba or keeping gentry past the all star break. We have some players on our team who wouldn’t get playing time anywhere else on contenders and we are guard heavy. We have no defensive small forwards to guard the Paul George and lebrons of the nba. We put short guards on those players. I’ve been a fan of the pelicans since we received them as the hornets. I’m as big as fan as anyone else, but I won’t look past the issues that this team has. We have to do better and get a coach who actually runs plays and not just play park ball. When things get tight in the 4th quarter. We just play iso ball and that won’t work. Even Jordan wasn’t happy when Phil jackson brought in the triangle offense, but it brought them championships.
I'm not like a die hard Gentry supporter or anything, but he also has no control over Zion missing the first half of the season. He's obviously not the coach of the future, and I think even he knows that; but he had the guys playing pretty well before the break.
Where I have issue with this post is the "fire Griffin" nonsense. This team is literally in the best position to have future success of any team in the NBA, yet you want to fire the VPBO after ONE LOSS in the regular season. That's child's play and shouldn't be entertained. No one is settling for mediocrity lol, we just don't tear the team down whenever there's a misstep. Most of this team is comprised of 19-22 year olds. They're not going to be consistent yet, but we have a pretty damn good foundation to build on.
Your expectations for this season were clearly far far too high
You can't reason with someone who didn't use reason to get themselves where they are.
If someone seriously thinks we should fire a VP of Basketball Ops after one bloody season, then leave them alone to macerate in their delusion. Like people who say the world is flat. That COVID is a hoax. Or vaccines cause autism.
The personnel decisions today are enough to get Gentry fired.
End of story.
* cough cough *
You ignoring the losses are what we call delusional. I don’t care how long a VP has been here for if he isn’t trying to take steps to make us a good team. He should’ve had gentry canned by all star and he hired the d coordinator and kept some of these players on this guard heavy team.
Jason Kidd.
https://www.sportscasting.com/1-reas...icans-rebuild/ some times it's best to say nothing.
But Griffin was part of that system, too. My biggest fear is that when you take away Lebron and you start see how fraudulent some of these people are... I really hope Griffin isn't another name on the list. His hands where dirty in drafting Anthony Bennett.
Griffin response to that: "You ******** up sometimes."
After this offseason, I'm really shakey on Griffin talent evaluation and roster building skill. Hopefully, a new coach will guide him to more sensible roster.
Can I really blame Griff for keeping Gentry when that was almost a requirement to land the job? Would Griff have chosen to keep Gentry otherwise? Gayle needs to take her hands completely off the wheel and let the GM do his thing for me to judge him properly. For all of Demps’s failures, his nuts were in a vice due to Tom’s demands. Gayle needs to not make the same mistake here and let Griff release Gentry
Give me the guy with the proven best win percentage of all active college coaches against major competition with one of the smaller enrollmentS from which to draw. MARK FEW.
It actually depends on what measure you use for defense, and when you take the number.
For example, in one of the seasons Bzdelik was Rockets defensive head honcho, they were the 6th ranked defense.
In other season where they were worse, he still had them ranked very highly in defensive rebounding, 5th in deflections per game, 6th in defending isolation plays, 2nd in defending DHOs, etc etc.
This just hit me. It's obvious once you think of it, but for some reason it hadn't crossed my mind.
Alvin Gentry has coached 17 seasons, including this one. He has made the playoffs 3 times (assuming we don't make it this year, which seems probable).
This means that he has made the playoffs 3/17 times trying: or 17.6% of his seasons.
Pop from the Spurs has been a head coach for 24 years, including this one. He has 5 rings as head coach.
That means he has won a championship 5/24 times trying: or 20.8% of his seasons.
In any given season, Pop is more likely to win a ring than a Gentry team is to make the playoffs.
Christ.
Absolutely can’t blame any D coach for the Pels under Alvin. His offense is so sporadic that it becomes impossible to judge defense when the players are scrambling just to get back. Also, Alvin hasn’t played a normal lineup after the first 6 minutes of each game. Pels have played 4 guards and Melli against teams with an average 6’8 lineup. How does anyone expect defense to be played with his ridiculously small lineups that are constantly undersized. The roster has bigs but Al would rather play Hart and Moore at PF and Melli at Center. Just a disaster to be in Bzdelik or Erman’s shoes.
Pels interested in ty Lue and Jason Kidd if they fire Gentry - Woj
Seriously, I'll be on the fire David Griffin train if this happens... Hiring Ty Lue, Jason Kidd, or Gentry staying... None of those options are acceptable.
https://hoopshype.com/rumor/tyronn-l...-for-pelicans/
Why would anyone want Lou, Kidd, or Gentry? This isn’t Trump vs Biden, we shouldn’t have to choose between worse and worser. I’m not a fan of having to choose between retreads when we have 2 of the league’s premier young players.
Give me fresh blood over failed experiments.
I would like them to at least look at Atkinson, Ham and Lee for starters.
I don’t see Lue as a bad hire. We just could do better. Jason Kidd though would be unacceptable.