March 28th - New Orleans Pelicans vs Sacramento Kings - 31-45

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Originally Posted by GuardianAngel25

We are doing everything an actual professional organization does. Not some message board hype over the 6th best odds instead of the 7th. Or we act like a class organization and let him finish out the season instead of hoping it ends up in an extra loss or 2. All I’m saying is anybody that has ever been in a competitive sport knows this just isn’t a thing or an option. Just ridiculous. Go ask a real winner and competitor like Kobe or MJ to see what they think about this.. If you want us to lose absolutely go ahead. I have no problem with losing either at this point. But to drag it any further blaming Gentry, Ferry, Benson, or any players is laughable!

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a couple of good, realistic posts back to back... to me the thought process is something like this: with the guys we have available right now, we probably shouldn't be winning many games, but these guys are paid professionals and they are playing their asses off because their futures depend upon it. To me, if there really is anything such as "tanking", its just not being able to win even though you give it your all.... intentionally losing shouldn't even be a consideration.

i truly don't understand how anyone can be happy with a win in these circumstances. boggles the mind.

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Originally Posted by neworleanshoo

i truly don't understand how anyone can be happy with a win in these circumstances. boggles the mind.

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Chances were slim to get top 3 anyway. So what does it really matter anyway? Very good talent available still at #9 plus the Davis trade.

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Originally Posted by GuardianAngel25

As usual these seem to age really well..

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Thank you. You have again totally missed the point of what I said. Congrats.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Wait. Where was it reported that Gentry wanted to take the Lakers offer?

That sounds absolutely crazy. He should have been fired with Dell if that was the case.

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Shamit Dua reported it on the In The NO podcast

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Originally Posted by 13 - 3

Chances were slim to get top 3 anyway. So what does it really matter anyway? Very good talent available still at #9 plus the Davis trade.

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Sure chances are slim, just like they were not great when we got #1 to get AD. However, better chances at a top 3 are worth more than a meaningless win. Having said that, we cannot intentionally lose games and these bench players played well enough to win against a Kings team that had to overcome some poor coaching in that game.

What does it matter? It’s mattered many times. Remember when we were one pick away from PG????!!!

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Originally Posted by donato

What does it matter? It’s mattered many times. Remember when we were one pick away from PG????!!!

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One pick away from PG.
One pick away from Andre Drummond: instead we got Austin Rivers.

One or two spots can mean a lot.

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Originally Posted by donato

What does it matter? It’s mattered many times. Remember when we were one pick away from PG????!!!

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You think you are getting nothing in return when we trade Davis?

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Originally Posted by GuardianAngel25

I love how anybody here expects professional athletes and professional coaches to just not give a crap about a win. When we have players that don’t care I simply don’t want them here. Yes I will say this again anybody that has ever played a sport actually competitively here would know this would be a huge problem for any athelete or competetitor in general.

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Serious question here: every time we win in a dumb way, myself and others get annoyed by it.

Every time we do that, you show up immediately to say that we can't ''expect professional athletes'' to lose on purpose.

Every time, we explain that we do not expect the PLAYERS to lose on purpose, but we expect an organised and focused front office to make clear the goal of tanking: and you can't argue that front offices and coaches will never do that, because they blatantly do, all the time, most prominently in Philadelphia.

And then EVERY TIME you ignore it, come into the next thread, and spread the same nonsense about expecting professional athletes to lose, which absolutely nobody is saying they expect.

Why do you keep doing this? You're arguing against someone who doesn't exist. Nobody is disagreeing with you about the perspective of the athletes. Absolutely nobody.

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Originally Posted by 13 - 3

You think you are getting nothing in return when we trade Davis?

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How does that relate to the Pelicans' draft position? They are independent of each other.

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Originally Posted by 13 - 3

Chances were slim to get top 3 anyway. So what does it really matter anyway? Very good talent available still at #9 plus the Davis trade.

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#9 means we can drop to 13 ! 6 means we can only drop to 10.
#9 means we have less than 20% in top #4. #6 means we have almost a 40% chance of top 4 pick
#6 means a much better piece in a trade offer also.
But, other than that, yeah, no difference. :help:

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Originally Posted by Tinman

#9 means we can drop to 13 ! 6 means we can only drop to 10.
#9 means we have less than 20% in top #4. #6 means we have almost a 40% chance of top 4 pick
#6 means a much better piece in a trade offer also.
But, other than that, yeah, no difference. :help:

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It’s a talented draft wherever we land. Have faith in the process.

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Originally Posted by Tinman

#9 means we can drop to 13 ! 6 means we can only drop to 10.
#9 means we have less than 20% in top #4. #6 means we have almost a 40% chance of top 4 pick
#6 means a much better piece in a trade offer also.
But, other than that, yeah, no difference. :help:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX1kMlG8c7Y

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Originally Posted by 13 - 3

It’s a talented draft wherever we land. Have faith in the process.

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Nobody is saying that if we end up dropping to #13, it's the end of the world. At that pick, Bol Bol might still be on the board, and there have been great players drafted at #13 or so in the past: Kobe Bryant and Karl Malone jump to mind instantly.

But think about it this way. Most people have their top 4 picks looking SOMETHING like Zion, Ja, Jarrett Culver, and RJ Barrett. That's currently Tankathon's predicted top 4, and for the sake of argument let's use those. If you're #6, you get a 40% chance at one of those guys. If you're 13th, there is no chance at any of them. Currently predicted to go around that spot are names like Romeo Langford and Coby White.

No offense to Langford or White, but they do not have the same kind of promise that the other four guys do, to my eyes.

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Originally Posted by 13 - 3

It’s a talented draft wherever we land. Have faith in the process.

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It drops significantly after 3 or 4. I would not say this is that deep of a draft talent-wise.

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Originally Posted by 13 - 3

It’s a talented draft wherever we land. Have faith in the process.

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Put Zion in your Left Hand & a big pile of heaping faith in the right hand & see which GM still has his job !

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Originally Posted by Tinman

Put Zion in your Left Hand & a big pile of heaping faith in the right hand & see which GM still has his job !

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So you don’t like Morant, Barrett, Culver, Reddish rest of draft.

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Originally Posted by 13 - 3

So you don’t like Morant, Barrett, Culver, Reddish rest of draft.

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Wouldn't draft Barrett in the top 10. He belongs with the rest of the Milquetoast . I wouldn't draft Reddish at all. The only Top Shelf booze in this draft is Zion, Morant & Culver . Other than that, every other player is position centric. There is NO best player available. They are all what & what . If you need a guard, you take Garland, if you need a C , you take Bol Bol, if you need a long wing, you take Little. Everyone in this Draft is a yada yada except for Zion, Ja & Culver.

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Originally Posted by Tinman

Wouldn't draft Barrett in the top 10. He belongs with the rest of the Milquetoast . I wouldn't draft Reddish at all. The only Top Shelf booze in this draft is Zion, Morant & Culver . Other than that, every other player is position centric. There is NO best player available. They are all what & what . If you need a guard, you take Garland, if you need a C , you take Bol Bol, if you need a long wing, you take Little. Everyone in this Draft is a yada yada except for Zion, Ja & Culver.

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I love the band Helmet...

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Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN

I love the band Helmet...

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Lol ! Showin your age a bit. I was/is more Alice in Chains. "yeahhhhh, here comes the Rooster, yeaaaahhhhh !

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Originally Posted by Tinman

Lol ! Showin your age a bit. I was/is more Alice in Chains. "yeahhhhh, here comes the Rooster, yeaaaahhhhh !

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39.

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Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN

39.

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You had to be in high school for Milquetoast . I think that was in the mid 90's ish.?

(Goes on deep dive of 90s music in search of Milquetoast)

My brothers were into AIC and Helmet, I was more into Soundgarden, though I can’t tell you the last time that I listened to a Soundgarden song (though I listen to Man in the Box or Unsung nearly every other day when I go running).

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Originally Posted by Tinman

You had to be in high school for Milquetoast . I think that was in the mid 90's ish.?

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Strap it on 1990
Meantime 1992
Betty 1994 (Milquetoast album)*
Aftertaste 1997
The other albums (WGAS).

Page Hamilton is the GOAT.
*Which was actually the song from the movie the Crow with Brandon Lee.

Been a Hornets/Pels fan since 1992.
So yeah I'm getting on in the world.

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Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN

Strap it on 1990
Meantime 1992 (Milquetoast album)*
Betty 1994
Aftertaste 1997
The other albums (WGAS).

Page Hamilton is the GOAT.
*Which was actually the song from the movie the Crow with Brandon Lee.

Been a Hornets/Pels fan since 1992.
So yeah I'm getting on in the world.

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The Crow ost spelled it "Milktoast" though.:P I was into Helmet a lot back then too. I even saw them live in... Biloxi I think? They, along with Rasputina, opened up for Marilyn Manson. This was... 96 or 97 I believe.

I'm also 39.:P

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Originally Posted by JunkHead

The Crow ost spelled it "Milktoast" though.:P I was into Helmet a lot back then too. I even saw them live in... Biloxi I think? They, along with Rasputina, opened up for Marilyn Manson. This was... 96 or 97 I believe.

I'm also 39.:P

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Yes different intros.
Preferred the album version on Betty.
Typo. Said it was from Meantime.
Seen them like 5 times.
Met Page. Really good guy.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

(Goes on deep dive of 90s music in search of Milquetoast)

My brothers were into AIC and Helmet, I was more into Soundgarden, though I can’t tell you the last time that I listened to a Soundgarden song (though I listen to Man in the Box or Unsung nearly every other day when I go running).

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Oh yeah, Soundgarden rocked. A bit lighter music, though. But, if we're gonna hit that , then I got 3 Letters for ya. S T P !!!!

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Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN

Yes different intros.
Preferred the album version on Betty.
Typo. Said it was from Meantime.
Seen them like 5 times.
Met Page. Really good guy.

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Hey, how bout NIN, Tool, Orgy , ?

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Originally Posted by JunkHead

The Crow ost spelled it "Milktoast" though.:P I was into Helmet a lot back then too. I even saw them live in... Biloxi I think? They, along with Rasputina, opened up for Marilyn Manson. This was... 96 or 97 I believe.

I'm also 39.:P

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That video was - too quote "The Miz". Awwwweeesommeeeeee !

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Originally Posted by Tinman

Oh yeah, Soundgarden rocked. A bit lighter music, though. But, if we're gonna hit that , then I got 3 Letters for ya. S T P !!!!

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A friend of mine just had her birthday on thursday. I usually get her a CD and a few other things. This year I got her a copy of "Superunknown".:)

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Originally Posted by JunkHead

A friend of mine just had her birthday on thursday. I usually get her a CD and a few other things. This year I got her a copy of "Superunknown".:)

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Temple of the Dog !! Hunger Strike . Top 10 Greatest Songs of all time. 2 of the greatest vocalist of all time.

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Originally Posted by JunkHead

A friend of mine just had her birthday on thursday. I usually get her a CD and a few other things. This year I got her a copy of "Superunknown".:)

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Black Hole Sun ! ��������������������������������

I remember the day that Super Unknown came out. My oldest brother picked me and my other up from Audubon Montessori on Broadway, and with them and my other older brother in the car he says “hold on, I need to stop at the Mushroom.” He parks us outside of some frat house with a fire engine in front of it, and runs in. 3 min later he is back with a CD. He says “boys get ready to rock.”

On comes “let me drown” and I just remember for the first time ever really feeling “alive”.

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Originally Posted by Tinman

Hey, how bout NIN, Tool, Orgy , ?

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Nah was never really a fan of NIN or Tool.
Loved Sepultura (Max Cavalera days), System of a Down, and Refused.

Now I just listen to metal and no so much heavy rock.

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Originally Posted by JunkHead

The Crow ost spelled it "Milktoast" though.:P I was into Helmet a lot back then too. I even saw them live in... Biloxi I think? They, along with Rasputina, opened up for Marilyn Manson. This was... 96 or 97 I believe.

I'm also 39.:P

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I saw Helmet exactly this time last year. The new drummer played Staniers bits so exactly you wouldn't even know it was someone else

I'm also 37 :crytear:

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

I remember the day that Super Unknown came out. My oldest brother picked me and my other up from Audubon Montessori on Broadway, and with them and my other older brother in the car he says “hold on, I need to stop at the Mushroom.” He parks us outside of some frat house with a fire engine in front of it, and runs in. 3 min later he is back with a CD. He says “boys get ready to rock.”out

On comes “let me drown” and I just remember for the first time ever really feeling “alive”.

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Mushroom - o Lordy - I remember walking in & out of there just a tad too many times with a bit too much liquor in my system purchased from the esptablishments within very close proximity. Lol

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Originally Posted by AusPel

I saw Helmet exactly this time last year. The new drummer played Staniers bits so exactly you wouldn't even know it was someone else

I'm also 37 :crytear:

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John Stanier is also the GOAT.
Funny to see so many hard rock/metal fans on this forum.
Could of sworn that most would have been into rap.
Body Count was another favourite.

I didn't realise how much older than me all you guys are, wow.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

I didn't realise how much older than me all you guys are, wow.

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We could tell.

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Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN

We could tell.

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I know, I'm the only member of the board who has yet to succumb to the ravages of senility.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

I know, I'm the only member of the board who has yet to succumb to the ravages of senility.

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What ??? Well then, if that's not it, then you have no excuse!

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Originally Posted by Tinman

What ??? Well then, if that's not it, then you have no excuse!

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Who let grandpa out of the home?

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Who let grandpa out of the home?

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I become very fast & sneaky when I take the yellow & green pill at the same time.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

I know, I'm the only member of the board who has yet to succumb to the ravages of senility.

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No.
Nobody with a wife and or kids has the time you do to write up those game day threads.
Plus it would take me an hour to type all that up lol.

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Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN

No.
Nobody with a wife and or kids has the time you do to write up those game day threads.
Plus it would take me an hour to type all that up lol.

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:hihi:

Takes me about 7-10 minutes to write 'em up.

*insert ''the future is now, old man'' meme*