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10-13-2018, 11:25 AM
Silver Nail

Davis may move on and we will get a fair return of players and picks. Just can't see it happening for at least this year, next and following as well. This coming summer AD will be given a 20 million dollar per year raise effective the year after signing. I think that pretty much keeps him here till the summer of 21 when he will still have 3 years on his extension but is eligible to trade making 46 mil per. Unless my understanding of how this works is incorrect, no way he leaves till then if ever.
10-13-2018, 11:29 AM
Toad504

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Originally Posted by Silver Nail

Davis may move on and we will get a fair return of players and picks. Just can't see it happening for at least this year, next and following as well. This coming summer AD will be given a 20 million dollar per year raise effective the year after signing. I think that pretty much keeps him here till the summer of 21 when he will still have 3 years on his extension but is eligible to trade making 46 mil per. Unless my understanding of how this works is incorrect, no way he leaves till then if ever.

The Lakers don't care how much it will cost .
10-13-2018, 12:06 PM
Silver Nail

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Originally Posted by Toad504

The Lakers don't care how much it will cost .

The lakers can't give him 46 mil only 30 something YEAR AFTER NEXT
10-13-2018, 12:07 PM
Mythrol

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Originally Posted by Toad504

The Lakers don't care how much it will cost .

It doesn't matter if they don't care how much it costs. They literally are unable to offer him the type of money we can.
10-13-2018, 12:40 PM
DaPelFromHell

I’d take Lonzo in a heartbeat. His dad is a complete jackA, but he isn’t going to make this team play bad IMO. He has to figure out sooner or later that all he is doing is hurting his son. You haven’t heard much from him, if anything this preseason. I’ll take a 6’6” pure point guard that reminds me of Jason Kidd all day. Ball, Ingram, & Kuzma would be a nice haul IMO. We finally get a good small forward with talent. Ball & Ingram have a shot at becoming stars in this league. We could possibly have a big 4 with Jrue, Randle, Ingram, & Ball. I really hope we can pull off that deal.

C: Randle 16.1 ppg, 8 rpg, 2.6 apg
PF: Kuzma 16.1 ppg, 6.3 rpg
SF: Ingram 16.1 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 3.9 apg
SG: Jrue 19.0 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 6.0 apg
PG: Ball 10.1 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 7.2 apg

That could be a dangerous team in a couple seasons when these young guys start to hit their prime. That possible starting five can sure score the basketball. Randle already has experience playing with those guys as well.
10-13-2018, 01:37 PM
AusPel

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Originally Posted by MistaWhoDat

Davis will sign the super max deal at 12:01 bank it !!

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https://media1.tenor.com/images/4059...itemid=4502551

He's not signing with us for the supermax directly. He's gonna make at least 700 mil through his career otherwise and that's without endorsements
10-13-2018, 01:39 PM
Mythrol

One is Elfrid Payton as a rookie, one is Lonzo. They the same guy. One is just still on that rookie hype train while the other is currently what Lonzo will be in a few years. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...5cf4d67ef8.jpg
10-13-2018, 01:41 PM
Toad504

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

It doesn't matter if they don't care how much it costs. They literally are unable to offer him the type of money we can.

If he does not sign Supermax he is gone.
10-13-2018, 01:42 PM
AusPel

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

One is Elfrid Payton as a rookie, one is Lonzo. They the same guy. One is just still on that rookie hype train while the other is currently what Lonzo will be in a few years. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...5cf4d67ef8.jpg

What's your point? The knock on Lonzo is his shooting and he's improved his form and started off shooting the three well this pre season
10-13-2018, 01:43 PM
AusPel

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Originally Posted by Toad504

If he does not sign Supermax he is gone.

If we don't prove finals contenders he's gone
10-13-2018, 01:47 PM
da ThRONe

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

How'd those 1st round picks Dell gave up end up turning out? This whole narrative that if Dell had built around the draft it would have been better is false. Dell has proven it time and time again. Unless you are drafting extremely high, like top 3 (and even then it's a crap shoot often) then building through the draft has very low odds of success.

Dell if anything has shown unless it's a sure thing, trading draft picks for proven players almost always works out better. Heck, look who we got this off season. Payton and Randle, both high lottery picks that other teams gave up on.

The thing that has messed up the Pelicans isn't the draft at all. It's injuries and GSW.

This is so asinine for the I don't know how many time. We went veteran heavy which effected where we were drafting. If we would have taken our time and built via the draft we would have been bad enough to pick at the top of the draft. It's sad that people that are smart enough to know better make post like yours. Philly are were they are now because they took the approach we should have taken.

I can give you a list of names from 2013 til now that weren't top picks that would make our roster far more attractive had we just drafted them instead. This isn't including the top picks that are studs.
10-13-2018, 01:53 PM
AusPel

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

This is so asinine for the I don't know how many time. We went veteran heavy which effected where we were drafting. If we would have taken our time and built via the draft we would have been bad enough to pick at the top of the draft. It's sad that people that are smart enough to know better make post like yours. Philly are were they are now because they took the approach we should have taken.

I can give you a list of names from 2013 til now that weren't top picks that would make our roster far more attractive had we just drafted them instead. This isn't including the top picks that are studs.

We also got smashed hard with injury. Gordon, Reke, Holiday, Quincey, AD. All missed significant time.

We haven't had a dedicated Bball human movement team until recently. We used the Saints team for ages. The strength and conditioning NFL team was then used for the NBA team. Think about that.

I have no doubt that caused half the injuries we had.

The blame goes higher than Dell. It goes to Loomis and half asleep Benson

If the current management team was in place 6 years ago we would have been flying
10-13-2018, 02:09 PM
Silver Nail

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Originally Posted by Toad504

If he does not sign Supermax he is gone.

That's true but we pick were we send him, highest bidder, even if that's Sac or any other lottery team. AD is smart, he will sign wait till '21 then decide.

By the way, that would most likely be Boston, good players, plenty of picks.
10-13-2018, 02:27 PM
da ThRONe

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Originally Posted by AusPel

We also got smashed hard with injury. Gordon, Reke, Holiday, Quincey, AD. All missed significant time.

We haven't had a dedicated Bball human movement team until recently. We used the Saints team for ages. The strength and conditioning NFL team was then used for the NBA team. Think about that.

I have no doubt that caused half the injuries we had.

The blame goes higher than Dell. It goes to Loomis and half asleep Benson

If the current management team was in place 6 years ago we would have been flying

This is a fair point. Injuries certainly had a impact on the team but still nobody is the quality of player we need to compete other than the Jrue Holiday that showed up last year(we can accredit that to injury). The problem is as a GM you put yourself into a box when you trade away assets for ready now players. Those same injuries hurt the team significantly less(maybe even benefits the team a la GS) if we draft players. When you trade for players on their 2nd contracts' that puts the pressure on for everything to go right and unfortunately injuries aren't excluded from the list of things that can go wrong.
10-13-2018, 02:28 PM
Mythrol

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Originally Posted by AusPel

What's your point? The knock on Lonzo is his shooting and he's improved his form and started off shooting the three well this pre season

Yeah the same people said the same thing about Payton too.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

This is so asinine for the I don't know how many time. We went veteran heavy which effected where we were drafting. If we would have taken our time and built via the draft we would have been bad enough to pick at the top of the draft. It's sad that people that are smart enough to know better make post like yours. Philly are were they are now because they took the approach we should have taken.

I can give you a list of names from 2013 til now that weren't top picks that would make our roster far more attractive had we just drafted them instead. This isn't including the top picks that are studs.

Philly won how many #1 overall picks? And exactly how is Philly better than we are? They are about to have to drop a ton of cash on those rookies and be maxed out. The only thing Philly has over us is being in the East and we can't control that. If we were an Eastern Conference team we'd have made the Eastern Conference finals last year and this year too. There'd be no question about AD leaving.

A retrospective list of players that weren't viewed as top picks when they came out and have instead over achieved is meaningless. We were never going to draft them. Teams miss on players all the time. The argument you are making is if we had been Philly we would be better off but how many lottery picks have teams missed on over the years? That's exactly why building through the draft is nowhere near the best and/or only way to build a winning team. Dell has already shown that draft picks have a far smaller return far more often.
10-13-2018, 02:33 PM
da ThRONe

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Yeah the same people said the same thing about Payton too.

Philly won how many #1 overall picks? And exactly how is Philly better than we are? They are about to have to drop a ton of cash on those rookies and be maxed out. The only thing Philly has over us is being in the East and we can't control that. If we were an Eastern Conference team we'd have made the Eastern Conference finals last year and this year too. There'd be no question about AD leaving.

A retrospective list of players that weren't viewed as top picks when they came out and have instead over achieved is meaningless. We were never going to draft them. Teams miss on players all the time. The argument you are making is if we had been Philly we would be better off but how many lottery picks have teams missed on over the years? That's exactly why building through the draft is nowhere near the best and/or only way to build a winning team. Dell has already shown that draft picks have a far smaller return far more often.

If you don't think Philly as a franchise is better than we are than there's no need to continue this conversation. You are either lying to make an argument or in delusional fan mode either way I'm done with this topic.
10-13-2018, 02:55 PM
AusPel

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Yeah the same people said the same thing about Payton too.

Philly won how many #1 overall picks? And exactly how is Philly better than we are? They are about to have to drop a ton of cash on those rookies and be maxed out. The only thing Philly has over us is being in the East and we can't control that. If we were an Eastern Conference team we'd have made the Eastern Conference finals last year and this year too. There'd be no question about AD leaving.

A retrospective list of players that weren't viewed as top picks when they came out and have instead over achieved is meaningless. We were never going to draft them. Teams miss on players all the time. The argument you are making is if we had been Philly we would be better off but how many lottery picks have teams missed on over the years? That's exactly why building through the draft is nowhere near the best and/or only way to build a winning team. Dell has already shown that draft picks have a far smaller return far more often.

I'm not talking about people, I'm using my own eyes. His form looks good (well acceptable and much better than last year)

I hope Payton shoots well but he has a little hitch

Anyway my post had nothing to do with EP
10-13-2018, 02:56 PM
Silver Nail

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

If you don't think Philly as a franchise is better than we are than there's no need to continue this conversation. You are either lying to make an argument or in delusional fan mode either way I'm done with this topic.

Well we won last 2 meeting straight up, we have a top 5 player, 2 top 5 defensive players. We win.

ps ALSO MARDI GRAS
10-13-2018, 03:00 PM
AusPel

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Originally Posted by Silver Nail

Well we won last 2 meeting straight up, we have a top 5 player, 2 top 5 defensive players. We win.

ps ALSO MARDI GRAS

The fact that we have 2 top 5 defensive guys and can give up 140 is terrifying beyond words
10-13-2018, 03:10 PM
Silver Nail

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Originally Posted by AusPel

The fact that we have 2 top 5 defensive guys and can give up 140 is terrifying beyond words

TRUE DAT!!!!!
10-13-2018, 03:18 PM
AusPel

Cheick with one of the best motors and physical attributes in the whole league can't do anything besides pick the ball out of the net

I honestly think he has big mental issues way beyond the scope of the game of basketball

Also this coaching rotation is starting to ******** me

Toronto and Spurs just won games with their absolute 3rd stringers playing
10-13-2018, 04:28 PM
Mythrol

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

If you don't think Philly as a franchise is better than we are than there's no need to continue this conversation. You are either lying to make an argument or in delusional fan mode either way I'm done with this topic.

Philly isn't. They have no one near AD's level, heck they don't have anyone that is on Jrue's level. Look at their "build through the draft model" we currently scooped up their 3rd overall pick a few years ago. They are about to be cash strapped.

How are they better today than we are? No way.
10-13-2018, 05:04 PM
6warddude

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Originally Posted by DaPelFromHell

I’d take Lonzo in a heartbeat. His dad is a complete jackA, but he isn’t going to make this team play bad IMO. He has to figure out sooner or later that all he is doing is hurting his son. You haven’t heard much from him, if anything this preseason. I’ll take a 6’6” pure point guard that reminds me of Jason Kidd all day. Ball, Ingram, & Kuzma would be a nice haul IMO. We finally get a good small forward with talent. Ball & Ingram have a shot at becoming stars in this league. We could possibly have a big 4 with Jrue, Randle, Ingram, & Ball. I really hope we can pull off that deal.

C: Randle 16.1 ppg, 8 rpg, 2.6 apg
PF: Kuzma 16.1 ppg, 6.3 rpg
SF: Ingram 16.1 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 3.9 apg
SG: Jrue 19.0 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 6.0 apg
PG: Ball 10.1 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 7.2 apg

That could be a dangerous team in a couple seasons when these young guys start to hit their prime. That possible starting five can sure score the basketball. Randle already has experience playing with those guys as well.

thats the way i see it also...that whole 5 can run just like gentry want to do...i want a pure PG next to jrue so jrue can be selfish on offense and just score....as for lavar ball,, if he starts saying that lonzo will lead the pelicans to a title then so be it lol...it would be somebody making noise about us because with AD gone the media will not be talking about us at all....lonzo game will be good......ill even take luke as the coach to coach the team....
10-13-2018, 09:08 PM
Toad504

I don't think Ball would work here. Is it possible and maybe I'm dreaming we can get Leonard down here? His contract is expiring in Toronto?
10-13-2018, 10:27 PM
Darkhorse985

This year is a go for broke year with AD. We need to do anything it takes to win, otherwise trading AD next year to the Lakers is a given. It may already be a given, but we have to at least fight for him this year.
10-13-2018, 10:43 PM
SmontySwilliams

Thread should be titled: Please read if you no longer want to be a pels fan. Sky falling. This fanbase sucks. AD is here now. Season hasn't started yet. Hush.
10-13-2018, 11:12 PM
Toad504

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Originally Posted by SmontySwilliams

Thread should be titled: Please read if you no longer want to be a pels fan. Sky falling. This fanbase sucks. AD is here now. Season hasn't started yet. Hush.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/c35d...temid=10866772
10-14-2018, 12:29 AM
Taker597

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Originally Posted by JJackisangry

For he record, I think AD loves New Orleans and would love nothing more than to win a title here. Having said that, he is smart to put pressure on the organization. I believe the stuff was leaked for several reasons.

1. As said above, he wants to put pressure on the organization. If the team isn’t up to scratch, it better be soon or he is out of here. No more dawdling around (tbf we did a lot in the offseason plus the Niko trade really worked in our favor).

2.Lebron came to the West. If AD wants an easy road to the finals, he can go to the East.

3. He can team up with Lebron. If you can’t beat the super teams, join them. It’s a shame that we have to coexist with two of the best teams in the last decade (in the same division no less) and LEBRON. The West is a nightmare.

4. We are entering supermax negotiation with no real contending team sourrounding him. Once he signs that deal. THERE IS NO FIXING THE ROSTER. I been **********ing about this for 3 years now when the Supermax became to fruition. Davis knows the supermax will cripple to team's ability to compete. So, AD is pressuring for 2 things... Want to win and get paid.

Pelicans needs to get a squad together. We need to sneak in one more superstar before the supermax and pay the tax if we want Davis to be here,
10-14-2018, 12:38 AM
Toad504

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Originally Posted by Taker597

4. We are entering supermax negotiation with no real contending team sourrounding him. Once he signs that deal. THERE IS NO FIXING THE ROSTER. I been **********ing about this for 3 years now when the Supermax became to fruition. Davis knows the supermax will cripple to team's ability to compete. So, AD is pressuring for 2 things... Want to win and get paid.

Pelicans needs to get a squad together. We need to sneak in one more superstar before the supermax and pay the tax if we want Davis to be here,

Another idea since we have a mixed bag on Butler,

Hold our fire till end of season then go after Kemba Walker or Klay Thompson? Thompson could be a possibility being there is a connection with Gentry. Trade for Thompson? Why wait? Supposively GS was shopping Thompson last year.
10-14-2018, 01:08 AM
Taker597

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Originally Posted by Toad504

Another idea since we have a mixed bag on Butler,

Hold our fire till end of season then go after Kemba Walker or Klay Thompson? Thompson could be a possibility being there is a connection with Gentry. Trade for Thompson? Why wait? Supposively GS was shopping Thompson last year.

I take Thomspon or Gorden-Hay before Butler. I think Butler is too ISO for our system.
10-14-2018, 07:25 AM
redrum

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

This is so asinine for the I don't know how many time. We went veteran heavy which effected where we were drafting. If we would have taken our time and built via the draft we would have been bad enough to pick at the top of the draft. It's sad that people that are smart enough to know better make post like yours. Philly are were they are now because they took the approach we should have taken.

I can give you a list of names from 2013 til now that weren't top picks that would make our roster far more attractive had we just drafted them instead. This isn't including the top picks that are studs.

In the classroom you are correct, have your team stink for 5 years, get every high draft pick, then dominate the league. Makes nice logical sense.

However, I believe as a GM you owe it to the fans to at least try, let your fans be able to convince themselves that if everything goes right maybe there is a chance.

If an organization is going to demand the prices they do for tickets, suites etc, I do not want to pay to go to those games for 5 years, watching loss after loss, dreaming if this kid only gets it, oh NO he blew his acl, lets suck for another year to get the next big thing cycle.

THEN when/if the team becomes one of promise after 7 years the organization raises ticket prices and a bunch of businessmen not even watching the game move in and take my seats.

Sports, especially basketball, is the only business that has the ability to tell its customers, hey we are a terrible company now, we know our product is sub standard, but if you put up with us being this atrocious at our jobs for only 5 to 7 more years we might be better, remember no guarantees, you just have to have faith.
10-14-2018, 11:08 AM
Eman5805

Quote:

Originally Posted by da ThRONe

This is so asinine for the I don't know how many time. We went veteran heavy which effected where we were drafting. If we would have taken our time and built via the draft we would have been bad enough to pick at the top of the draft. It's sad that people that are smart enough to know better make post like yours. Philly are were they are now because they took the approach we should have taken.

I can give you a list of names from 2013 til now that weren't top picks that would make our roster far more attractive had we just drafted them instead. This isn't including the top picks that are studs.

That would be rougher 5 years than Philly went through. Every damn season, we'd endure constant "Move the Pelicans to Seattle" talk. I too wish we had taken a more measured approach...but we had an owner who wanted to see the team win immediately before he died...

And now he's died. We can't get Anthony Davis to remain here...then I'll probably go as emotionally dead as a loveless marriage. I'll be present, but have zero spark. Because if we get our sniper elite player in the first bad draft...we'll suddenly just hear how he should play in a bigger market, because we don't ********ing deserve anything good.
10-14-2018, 11:57 AM
redrum

look, lets be honest, small market teams are designed to be the Washington Generals, you know, the team that shows up to play the Harlem Glodetrotters.

Here is a small sample of the Wiki page describing them,

"The Generals exist primarily as a part of the Harlem Globetrotters' act, effectively being stooges for the Globetrotters. While the Globetrotters play tricks and spectacular displays of skill for the crowd, the Generals appear to attempt to play a "normal" game of basketball. The Generals' games involve playing genuine basketball at times, but also not interfering in the Globetrotters' tricks. Almost always this results in resounding wins for the Globetrotters. Despite their losses, the Generals' roster consists of relatively competent players."

Thanks NBA and ESPN for turning the league into this. I have not watched the Globetrotters in 20 years and the NBA is pushing me in the same direction.
10-14-2018, 01:07 PM
da ThRONe

Quote:

Originally Posted by redrum

In the classroom you are correct, have your team stink for 5 years, get every high draft pick, then dominate the league. Makes nice logical sense.

However, I believe as a GM you owe it to the fans to at least try, let your fans be able to convince themselves that if everything goes right maybe there is a chance.

If an organization is going to demand the prices they do for tickets, suites etc, I do not want to pay to go to those games for 5 years, watching loss after loss, dreaming if this kid only gets it, oh NO he blew his acl, lets suck for another year to get the next big thing cycle.

THEN when/if the team becomes one of promise after 7 years the organization raises ticket prices and a bunch of businessmen not even watching the game move in and take my seats.

Sports, especially basketball, is the only business that has the ability to tell its customers, hey we are a terrible company now, we know our product is sub standard, but if you put up with us being this atrocious at our jobs for only 5 to 7 more years we might be better, remember no guarantees, you just have to have faith.

To me 2013 was the prefect time to play the long game. We just rebranded and had drafted Davis the year before. The level of excitement was really high. The city would have supported a rebuild. The end result ended up being similar as we've only had two playoff appearances since that time.
10-14-2018, 01:15 PM
UNO Gracias

We are where we are. We need to go all in and move heaven and hell to get AD a third star. Butler is the best of those available. Make it happen Demps.
10-14-2018, 02:40 PM
redrum

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

To me 2013 was the prefect time to play the long game. We just rebranded and had drafted Davis the year before. The level of excitement was really high. The city would have supported a rebuild. The end result ended up being similar as we've only had two playoff appearances since that time.

I always watch the Pels and Sixers. Both teams started rebuilding about the same time. They went in very different directions. Both teams seem to be in the same place right now with on court results. The long game takes perfection, the Sixers missed on Okafor, and Fultz we will see. DO the Sixers have more flexability, sure, but free agents were not lining up to join them this offseason. Maybe they will in the future but, by that time Simmons and Embid will need to be paid. Can they make trades to fill holes? Sure both teams can if superstars demand it and other teams will accept trash in return.

I am not sure which way was right, but the Pels were at least decent enough most of this time to buy a ticket. Would you have paid top dollar to see some of those Sixer teams?

I think I agree with UNO, the only way for the Pels to really compete for a championship is to go all in now, Jimmy Butler may not be the perfect player, but that player doesn't exist. Boogie wasn't the perfect player but allowed us to put fear in other teams and a confidence in our players that they could win. A team of Davis, Butler, Jrue, Randle, hopefully Niko and a bunch of role players would give the Pels a chance to complete and believe, whether they are or not ,that they are a super team.
10-14-2018, 06:19 PM
6warddude

do anyone know who were the players in the miami trade for butler? and if so,,who can we send to them that will beat their offer if they bring up talks again?...and it has to be a deal that the t-wolves would consider and not something that pelicans fans like to trade because it save us lol...
10-14-2018, 06:40 PM
MichaelMcNamara

Dell has already inquired and the Wolves price is insane and even mores to teams in the Western Conference.

Dell would take him if it cost him little but there is no point in trading things of value for a rental and Dell has no interest in giving Butler 5 yr/160+ mil

Long story short, it aint happening. Look elsewhere.
10-14-2018, 07:06 PM
6warddude

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Dell has already inquired and the Wolves price is insane and even mores to teams in the Western Conference.

Dell would take him if it cost him little but there is no point in trading things of value for a rental and Dell has no interest in giving Butler 5 yr/160+ mil

Long story short, it aint happening. Look elsewhere.

thank you....what about harrison barnes?..
10-14-2018, 07:10 PM
luigi modelo

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Dell has already inquired and the Wolves price is insane and even mores to teams in the Western Conference.

Dell would take him if it cost him little but there is no point in trading things of value for a rental and Dell has no interest in giving Butler 5 yr/160+ mil

Long story short, it aint happening. Look elsewhere.

Thanks for the update. I like Dell's approach on this one
10-14-2018, 07:16 PM
MichaelMcNamara

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Originally Posted by 6warddude

thank you....what about harrison barnes?..

Inquired months ago. Mavs have no interest right now.

You guys need to wait until teams start having terrible starts and/or big injuries that derail their season. Right now, 28-29 of the teams in the NBA thing they can make the playoffs. You wouldn't believe how disillusioned some of them are.

Dell could make a work the edges trade right now, but a real needle moving trade aint coming for months. Be patient and enjoy watching the actual games as opposed to thinking about the moves. For now.
10-14-2018, 07:49 PM
redrum

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Inquired months ago. Mavs have no interest right now.

You guys need to wait until teams start having terrible starts and/or big injuries that derail their season. Right now, 28-29 of the teams in the NBA thing they can make the playoffs. You wouldn't believe how disillusioned some of them are.

Dell could make a work the edges trade right now, but a real needle moving trade aint coming for months. Be patient and enjoy watching the actual games as opposed to thinking about the moves. For now.

The problem is, I can wait for the trading deadline or next year. I kinda like the current team warts and all, I am just not sure AD wants to! Only time will tell, let the games begin.
10-14-2018, 08:10 PM
6warddude

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Inquired months ago. Mavs have no interest right now.

You guys need to wait until teams start having terrible starts and/or big injuries that derail their season. Right now, 28-29 of the teams in the NBA thing they can make the playoffs. You wouldn't believe how disillusioned some of them are.

Dell could make a work the edges trade right now, but a real needle moving trade aint coming for months. Be patient and enjoy watching the actual games as opposed to thinking about the moves. For now.

thanks again for the info on about inquiring about him and hope we revisit in trading for him...he is young and would fix our SF position....im all for waiting for dallas to fade out and trying to trade for barnes....my jrue,,barnes and AD core for the playoffs has some hope now....come on dallas with the fade lol....
10-14-2018, 11:52 PM
gobulls

I think you guys are way down on your team this year. You're gonna make the playoffs if Davis stays healthy. If he leaves it won't be this season, no matter what ESPN wants you to believe. Only way I see that happening is if Randle, Mirotic, and Holiday all miss extended time.
10-15-2018, 05:51 AM
Eman5805

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Originally Posted by gobulls

I think you guys are way down on your team this year. You're gonna make the playoffs if Davis stays healthy. If he leaves it won't be this season, no matter what ESPN wants you to believe. Only way I see that happening is if Randle, Mirotic, and Holiday all miss extended time.

Media has an impact. It’s impossible to turn the radio or tv on and constantly hear about how we won’t make the playoffs, see people talk as if Davis is already on some other team, complete with graphics and talk of what other players the damn Lakers or Celtics can put around them with how many games they’ll win. Like it’s inevitable, and not have some fans influenced.

Crap gets to me and I know why they’re doing it. Just need the season to start and for the games to start counting. It would be helpful if we don’t start the season slow again. Though we gotta play Houston and Golden State in the first 6 games.
10-15-2018, 07:32 AM
Pelicanidae

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Media has an impact. It’s impossible to turn the radio or tv on and constantly hear about how we won’t make the playoffs, see people talk as if Davis is already on some other team, complete with graphics and talk of what other players the damn Lakers or Celtics can put around them with how many games they’ll win. Like it’s inevitable, and not have some fans influenced.

Crap gets to me and I know why they’re doing it. Just need the season to start and for the games to start counting. It would be helpful if we don’t start the season slow again. Though we gotta play Houston and Golden State in the first 6 games.

We start the season something like 4-6 or 3-7 over the first ten games, these rumours will only intensify.

We start 6-4 or 7-3, they'll start dying down.

How we start is vital. Some losses are acceptable, and even expected, but we can't afford to flush this season away. Need to show real progress
10-15-2018, 09:54 AM
NOLA_Dave

I watched the interview and if I were AD I would be saying the same thing and putting pressure on the organization to win now. I don't think it automatically means he will be gone to a bigger market. I think it's the media constantly harping on AD going to a big market that has most of you guys thinking he's gone. If Dell can find that trade to acquire a difference maker at the deadline and the Pels go deep in the playoffs I think AD signs the super max extension.
10-15-2018, 11:32 AM
gobulls

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Media has an impact. It’s impossible to turn the radio or tv on and constantly hear about how we won’t make the playoffs, see people talk as if Davis is already on some other team, complete with graphics and talk of what other players the damn Lakers or Celtics can put around them with how many games they’ll win. Like it’s inevitable, and not have some fans influenced.

Crap gets to me and I know why they’re doing it. Just need the season to start and for the games to start counting. It would be helpful if we don’t start the season slow again. Though we gotta play Houston and Golden State in the first 6 games.

I get it, I just think you have a much better team than everyone thinks. The casual fan sees no Cousins and assumes a worse team. But AD is probably better playing alongside someone who spaces the floor like Mirotic. Not to mention Randle is a great 16/9 guy. I think a healthy Pelicans team will be a 5-7 seed this year
10-15-2018, 11:48 AM
bahmamamba

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Dell has already inquired and the Wolves price is insane and even mores to teams in the Western Conference.

Dell would take him if it cost him little but there is no point in trading things of value for a rental and Dell has no interest in giving Butler 5 yr/160+ mil

Long story short, it aint happening. Look elsewhere.

Thanks for the info atleast now we shouldnt have people saying things like "Dell is just sitting on his hands and not doing anything" ehh who am I kidding there's still gonna be those ppl lol

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10-15-2018, 11:59 AM
6warddude

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Originally Posted by gobulls

I get it, I just think you have a much better team than everyone thinks. The casual fan sees no Cousins and assumes a worse team. But AD is probably better playing alongside someone who spaces the floor like Mirotic. Not to mention Randle is a great 16/9 guy. I think a healthy Pelicans team will be a 5-7 seed this year

with everything going on about this team,,i still think we will be the houston of last year and be a top 4 team if healthy plus if we get the right SF at the trade deadline,we will be hell to deal with in the playoffs....i have been believing this since we put this team together and has not change my mind yet.....it all starts when we beat the hell outta the rockets wednesday....

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