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08-09-2018, 02:50 PM
RaisingTheBar

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Originally Posted by AusPel

It wouldn't have been good?

I mean I get that many would have been upset if we traded a 1st for jahlil a couple of years ago, but it didn't happen. He's on the team now with a great contract, that's all that matters.
08-09-2018, 03:18 PM
Silver Nail

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar

I mean I get that many would have been upset if we traded a 1st for jahlil a couple of years ago, but it didn't happen. He's on the team now with a great contract, that's all that matters.

THIS!!!! But equally important, Dell didn't fold and max him when he rejected, and offered less do to other moves. Regardless, end result we are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better off.
08-09-2018, 07:50 PM
MistaWhoDat

I’ve wanted okafor since he came out in the draft I think he’s a product of being on bad teams I’m hopeful he’s gonna turn it around he has talent to work with

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08-09-2018, 09:57 PM
PelsFan2313

Okafor appearing in quite a few summer workout videos, including this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azuHcJLkl8A
08-09-2018, 10:21 PM
AusPel

Oak was straight beastin in that vid but it's Dipo's world
08-09-2018, 10:34 PM
R Pelly

Guest appearance by out of shape John Wall
08-09-2018, 11:23 PM
Pelicanidae

Yeah I mean, they were obviously only.playing at something like 60% speed and nobody was really investing in defense, but it's still encouraging footage. He had a block, another almost-block, and some decent defense staying in front of a guard at about 10 feet out for a second. His corner three looks like it's a nice shot, no idea how it will translate to a real game being legitimately defended though. His midrange looked real though.
08-10-2018, 08:35 AM
Eman5805

Okafor's story hasn't been written yet. That much is clear. I don't know if he'll ever be a decent defender. But with the right team around him, he can be an asset.
08-11-2018, 05:57 AM
Pelicans78

He’s a low-risk signing, but I have him behind AD, Randle, Mirotic, and Diallo as far as big men depth.

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08-11-2018, 09:24 AM
AusPel

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Originally Posted by Pelicans78

He’s a low-risk signing, but I have him behind AD, Randle, Mirotic, and Diallo as far as big men depth.

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He's there with Diallo with strengths but also big weaknesses.

As MM said at TD, Oak was brought in to light a fire under Diallo's ******. He's been getting way too ahead of himself
08-11-2018, 11:30 AM
Pelicanidae

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Originally Posted by AusPel

He's there with Diallo with strengths but also big weaknesses.

As MM said at TD, Oak was brought in to light a fire under Diallo's ******. He's been getting way too ahead of himself

Okafor has a much more polished and confident offensive game, but his defensive woes are just as bad, if not worse. Will be interesting to see how they go.
08-11-2018, 11:48 AM
AusPel

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Okafor has a much more polished and confident offensive game, but his defensive woes are just as bad, if not worse. Will be interesting to see how they go.

Diallo's game is mostly predicated on speed whereas Oak's game was/is predicated on calculated moves

Either way, I'm excited/ready for disappointment to see how each has evolved this season
08-11-2018, 12:14 PM
Pelicanidae

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Originally Posted by AusPel

Diallo's game is mostly predicated on speed whereas Oak's game was/is predicated on calculated moves

Either way, I'm excited/ready for disappointment to see how each has evolved this season

I know it's been said a ton, but I do really feel bad for Okafor. If he had been drafted in 1998, he'd have been killing it.
08-11-2018, 02:56 PM
Mythrol

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

I know it's been said a ton, but I do really feel bad for Okafor. If he had been drafted in 1998, he'd have been killing it.

Even if he was drafted in 98 his defense would be garbage.
08-11-2018, 04:45 PM
wnelson

I think Jah is there to light a fire under diallo. Only one will be here next season regardless of this one. I hope both Okafors kill it nest season.
08-11-2018, 06:18 PM
DaPelFromHell

I love this signing. We needed another center to battle and hopefully beat out Emeka Okafor & Alexis Ajinca. He looked like one of the best players in college his one year winning a title for Duke. He’s got skills offensively no doubt. His weakness has been his play on defense. I think it had a lot to do with him being slow. Now that he’s lost some weight and is much quicker he ought to be better on defense. He had a good stat line his rookie year with 17.5 ppg, 7 rpg, & 1.2 bpg. He played on two of the worst teams in NBA history pretty much. I think we will see a much better player this year now that he’s lost some weight and playing on a competent team. He’s already put in the work to lose some weight and get faster, so hopefully he will put in the work with Erman to get better defensively. Now that he’s fighting to stay in the league, I would think he will do whatever it takes to stay. We lucky he didn’t go play in China where he would of likely made way more money. I think this will be one of those great under the radar signings that Dell seems to pull off frequently.
08-11-2018, 10:49 PM
N.O.Bronco

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

I know it's been said a ton, but I do really feel bad for Okafor. If he had been drafted in 1998, he'd have been killing it.

You could honestly say that about a number of big men these days.

Boban Marjanović would probably become an all time great if he was born a generation or two ago.
08-11-2018, 10:50 PM
N.O.Bronco

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Originally Posted by wnelson

I think Jah is there to light a fire under diallo. Only one will be here next season regardless of this one. I hope both Okafors kill it nest season.

I didn't think of that until it was mentioned but I could definitely see that as part of the rationale.
08-11-2018, 11:06 PM
Pelicanidae

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Originally Posted by N.O.Bronco

You could honestly say that about a number of big men these days.

Boban Marjanović would probably become an all time great if he was born a generation or two ago.

Nah, Boban has feet so heavy he'd seem slow in the late 70s. He's big though so yeah, he'd probably average 26rpg in the 80s.
08-12-2018, 12:41 PM
pelicanchamp

The good thing is Okafor can play a role on this team. He’s never played with talent like AD or Jrue.

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08-12-2018, 11:03 PM
DaPelFromHell

With the addition of Jahlil our camp roster looks pretty strong.

C: 23 Anthony Davis, 4 Jahlil Okafor, 50 Emeka Okafor, 42 Alexis Ajinca
PF: 30 Julius Randle, 3 Nikola Mirotic, 13 Cheick Diallo
SF: 44 Solomon Hill, 21 Darius Miller, 0 Troy Williams, 33 Garlon Green
SG: 11 Jrue Holiday, 55 Etwaun Moore, 34 DeAndre Liggins, 12 Trevon Blueitt
PG: 2 Elfrid Payton, 2 Ian Clark, 15 Frank Jackson

I see both Payton & Clark with #2, so not sure which one will have a different number out of those two.

Man I’m really excited about this roster. I think the combo of Julius Randle, Elfrid Payton, & Jahlil Okafor will be as effective as the combo of Demarcus Cousins & Rajon Rondo. Randle gives us scoring, rebounding, & defense in the paint. Payton gives us a playmaker that can also do some damage driving to the hoop. Hopefully his jump shot improves. I think Okafor will give us a stretch 5 that can hit those open 3s like Cousins did and space the floor for AD, Jrue, & Payton. Okafor will do some damage offensively without a doubt IMO. Niko will be a beast of a 6th man. He was a great addition last year and showed to be quite effective in the playoffs. Just imagine that coming off the bench. Not sure if we can bring Moore off the bench like I hope, but we will need another 3 point shooter in that starting lineup. I’m hoping Hill can be decent there or maybe Miller moves into the starting lineup. Hopefully against most teams Moore starts and against teams with tough 3s Hill gets the nod. Not sure what to make of Troy Williams. I’m hoping he comes in and is effective if Hill doesn’t improve any. If he’s still available I would try to bring in Shabazz Muhammad to camp. We ought to bring in as much talent as we can at the 3 and let them duke it out for the roster spots. That second team would be the best 3 point shooting 2nd team in the league. If Moore plays in a starting 3 guard lineup like he did last year than Miller may move to the backup 2. I’m hoping Frank Jackson takes the backup point spot from Ian Clark cause I think he has more talent to offer. Having a combo 4th big of Jahlil & Diallo will be huge IMO. If we need scoring we got Jahlil and if we need defense & athleticism we got Diallo. I’m hoping with the weight loss & Erman’s coaching Jahlil gets better defensively. He’s a decent rebounder and one helluva scorer. Hopefully he will allow us to use Diallo as a piece to get us a legit small forward during the season. I hope every team sleeps on Jahlil like this message board cause with him motivated to make it in this league he may just win the most improved player award!!!
08-13-2018, 10:39 AM
PELICANSFAN

Payton held up a #4 jersey at his press conference. Okafor will not wear #4. I would guess he wears #8 like he had at Philly (since his college # 15 is taken as well).
08-18-2018, 06:58 PM
PelicanNation

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Originally Posted by Pelicans78

He’s a low-risk signing, but I have him behind AD, Randle, Mirotic, and Diallo as far as big men depth.

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No we cant let Diallo go he is our best bench warmer I never seen someone with so much energy riding the pine. No way Okafor is a better cheerleader.
08-21-2018, 06:14 AM
da ThRONe

https://www.instagram.com/p/BmlysmTh...ource=ig_embed

Saw this somewhere and thought it was interesting.
08-21-2018, 07:36 AM
AusPel

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

https://www.instagram.com/p/BmlysmTh...ource=ig_embed

Saw this somewhere and thought it was interesting.

All the media I've seen of Okafor Jnr this offseason has been pretty encouraging. Enough to stay optimistic anyway
08-21-2018, 08:48 AM
da ThRONe

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Originally Posted by AusPel

All the media I've seen of Okafor Jnr this offseason has been pretty encouraging. Enough to stay optimistic anyway

It reminds me of Julius Randle's off season transformation before his breakout season last year.
08-21-2018, 09:11 AM
AusPel

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

It reminds me of Julius Randle's off season transformation before his breakout season last year.

And Dipo as well.

I'm not getting my hopes up that he will make as good a jump as those two tho

But he was pick 3 so the talent is latent there somewhere
08-21-2018, 12:27 PM
Eman5805

That's like the fifth athlete that's gotten huge results from that place.

Whatever they're doing, other players need to start copying it.
08-21-2018, 02:03 PM
PolishFan

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Originally Posted by AusPel

And Dipo as well.

I'm not getting my hopes up that he will make as good a jump as those two tho

But he was pick 3 so the talent is latent there somewhere

Let’s get Anthony Bennett :)
08-21-2018, 10:06 PM
HornetGuru

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

https://www.instagram.com/p/BmlysmTh...ource=ig_embed

Saw this somewhere and thought it was interesting.

mental health is no joker, much more than physical. Maybe this was the reason for his unsuccess and he has found a way to deal with it and could blossom.
08-22-2018, 12:15 AM
Pelicanidae

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

mental health is no joker, much more than physical. Maybe this was the reason for his unsuccess and he has found a way to deal with it and could blossom.

I think you could be right. As someone who has multiple family members with fairly severe mental illness (it runs in the family), and another family member who works in caring for people who suffer from them, I've seen first-hand, several times, how anxiety, depression, personality disorders, etc, can completely cripple perfectly capable and skilled individuals. If Okafor has been legitimately struggling with that, then his ever lessening minutes, and the constant media negativity could easily have worsened his play several times over, regardless of how skilled he is. If he's getting the help he needs, and he can be supported while he turns that corner, then he could be a completely different player this season than we've ever seen before.

Obviously I'm not saying he will be, only time will tell that, but there's a lot of reason for hope.
08-22-2018, 12:37 AM
msusousaphone

I'm a mental health therapist. Definitely something that could have caused the decline. And our team with AD and Jrue also strikes me as a great recovery environment. Seems like really good people to be around. Gentry, too. Recovery environment is huge.
08-22-2018, 12:48 AM
Pelicanidae

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Originally Posted by msusousaphone

I'm a mental health therapist. Definitely something that could have caused the decline. And our team with AD and Jrue also strikes me as a great recovery environment. Seems like really good people to be around. Gentry, too. Recovery environment is huge.

Totally agree. If there's another team better, I don't know it. Like you say, AD and Jrue are both the perfect personalities to be around during recovery, but the whole team really. As much as Rondo was great at times, I think he's the kind of difficult personality that wouldn't be very productive for someone on the path of mental health recovery. Obviously no Boogie for the same reason. Randle, Payton, Moore, Clark, and Mirotic all seem like positive, pleasant guys.
08-22-2018, 08:11 AM
bahmamamba

Can training camp get here already damn I'm excited lol

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08-22-2018, 04:18 PM
pelicanchamp

Ready to crush the warriors.

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08-23-2018, 08:38 PM
Impose

What if Okafor turns out to be a beast and takes the starting C job and AD goes back to PF? Can a man dream?
08-23-2018, 08:44 PM
Pelicanidae

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What if Okafor turns out to be a beast and takes the starting C job and AD goes back to PF? Can a man dream?

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08-23-2018, 09:40 PM
wnelson

I am rooting for him to ball out. I keep hearing on podcasts that emeka is gone.
08-24-2018, 01:45 AM
AUSSIE_PELICAN

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Originally Posted by wnelson

I am rooting for him to ball out. I keep hearing on podcasts that emeka is gone.

Yeah him and Liggins at this point are only valuable in trade dump.
08-26-2018, 11:39 PM
AusPel

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Originally Posted by wnelson

I am rooting for him to ball out. I keep hearing on podcasts that emeka is gone.

That's a bit sad, I loved the effort he brought on defence. Wish we could get rid of Ajinca instead

What podcasts do you listen to?
08-27-2018, 07:30 AM
tyler

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Originally Posted by Impose

What if Okafor turns out to be a beast and takes the starting C job and AD goes back to PF? Can a man dream?

So you are saying Okafor is going to be better than Niko and Randle?
08-27-2018, 08:56 AM
Silver Nail

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Originally Posted by tyler

So you are saying Okafor is going to be better than Niko and Randle?

Now that's a bit of a stretch. But probably considerably better then Diallo
08-27-2018, 01:17 PM
Pelicanidae

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Originally Posted by tyler

So you are saying Okafor is going to be better than Niko and Randle?

I don't think so, no. But then, stranger things have happened.

Like Ginobili retiring.
08-27-2018, 02:45 PM
wnelson

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Originally Posted by AusPel

That's a bit sad, I loved the effort he brought on defence. Wish we could get rid of Ajinca instead

What podcasts do you listen to?

Bird writes, locked on, black and blue, ESPN Nola and ESPN baton rouge.
08-27-2018, 07:43 PM
tyler

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Originally Posted by Silver Nail

Now that's a bit of a stretch. But probably considerably better then Diallo

Lol I was saying the same thing as far as potential but he said something along the lines of taking the starting position :idoh:
08-30-2018, 01:28 AM
Pelicanidae

Okafor was on CJ McCollum's podcast and he said a lot of encouraging stuff. Said that he was excited to be around the Pels winning environment, because he's never been around that since joining the NBA. Also said that he's been talking to the Pels coaches and trainers and he's aware that rebounding and defense are his biggest areas to work on. Seemed quite self aware and lucid. Promising stuff.
08-30-2018, 02:00 AM
Impose

Man oh man, imagine a breakout year for Okafor, Jackson and Payton, along with Randle playing like he did last year. This team will be straight FIRE!!!
08-30-2018, 03:19 PM
wnelson

My dream scenario

Payton remains the starting PG and Hill is the starting SF with Frank winning the backup PG role and having Jah beat out Diallo for the 4th big spot.

Payton/Jackson
jrue/Clark
Hill/moore
Ad/nico
Randle/Jah

Miller/Diallo/bluiett for depth. Ajinca, t Williams and Lawson rounding out the bench. When we win big these guys will own garbage time and we will sign a second 2way project
08-30-2018, 07:06 PM
billfromfinance

Let's not be too greedy, if you could only pick one to guarantee a great year who would your choice be?

Solomon Hill
Frank Jackson
Elfrid Payton
Julius Randle
Jahlil Okafor
08-30-2018, 09:28 PM
LouisianaJoseph

That's a hard one but I'm inclined to go with Hill or Payton.

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