Norris Cole to Pels

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Originally Posted by pelicanchamp

What's happening????? Very confused.

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In terms of any difference it'll make for the team? Nothing.

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Originally Posted by saintsinNO

In terms of any difference it'll make for the team? Nothing.

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You mean other than having a backup point guard now?

Poor Jummer. Dude is in a fight for survival, meanwhile the Pels are getting all kind of crazy.

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Originally Posted by saintsinNO

In terms of any difference it'll make for the team? Nothing.

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What a ray of sunshine.

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Originally Posted by WhoDatPelican

You mean other than having a backup point guard now?

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He's better, but it's not hard to get better than Jimmer and Toney Douglas.

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar

What a ray of sunshine.

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Just saying. Teams with much more talent than us brought in much more talent than us. Again. You can give me all this 'plan' crap, but we've been planning. Norris Cole is better than what we have, true, but that isn't saying much. I'm not saying it could've been different and I'm fine with standing pat for now I suppose, but if you are asking what any of this means the answer is nothing.

Norris Cole can play Defense... What about the other players? Williams and Smith???

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Originally Posted by pelicanchamp

Norris Cole can play Defense... What about the other players? Williams and Smith???

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Williams is being bought out. Doubt Smith even plays.

Jimmer has to be gone unless we are buying someone out?

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Originally Posted by Asteptooslow

Jimmer has to be gone unless we are buying someone out?

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Buying out Williams

I'd rather keep Williams over anyone else tbh.

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Originally Posted by saintsinNO

Just saying. Teams with much more talent than us brought in much more talent than us. Again. You can give me all this 'plan' crap, but we've been planning. Norris Cole is better than what we have, true, but that isn't saying much. I'm not saying it could've been different and I'm fine with standing pat for now I suppose, but if you are asking what any of this means the answer is nothing.

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What exactly do you expect us to have done? We did better than staying put which is what we have been rumored to have done. Cole is going to get minutes here think it was a good get for pretty much nothing.

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Originally Posted by AD23forMVP

I'd rather keep Williams over anyone else tbh.

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As per hoopshype: Shawne Williams

Very good size for the small forward spot... Decent all-around skills... Ballhandling skills need improvement... Has become quite a three-point threat... Has a lot of baggage.

Salmons for Williams and buyought for Williams?

And Cole to PHX?

What a piece of *** of trade deadline

who's on first?

Now hoopshype reporting we are getting Justin Hamilton.

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Originally Posted by IVICP3

Salmons for Williams and buyought for Williams?

And Cole to PHX?

What a piece of *** of trade deadline

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Where are you getting Cole to Phoenix?

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar

What exactly do you expect us to have done? We did better than staying put which is what we have been rumored to have done. Cole is going to get minutes here think it was a good get for pretty much nothing.

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Cole is ok, that's it. I'm not saying that we coulda shoulda woulda done more. I'm just saying these moves don't really mean anything for the team, which is what was asked. Other teams that were also already better than us got even better. Not sure what the problem with these comments are...?

If you think Norris Cole means anything significant for this team, I disagree. Williams is being bought out. Smith likely won't play. Hamilton likely won't play. Not really any significant change for the team and other teams did get better. That's the facts of life. Not to mention, Cole hasn't been much better than Rivers or Jimmer this year, though I do agree he's an upgrade.

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Originally Posted by IVICP3

Salmons for Williams and buyought for Williams?

And Cole to PHX?

What a piece of *** of trade deadline

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Stop with the cole to phx stuff it's been confirmed he's coming here.

I'm told that Norris Cole and Justin Hamilton are both heading to the Pelicans as part of the large trade with Miami and Phoenix.

— Alex Kennedy (@AlexKennedyNBA) February 19, 2015

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Originally Posted by saintsinNO

Cole is ok, that's it. I'm not saying that we coulda shoulda woulda done more. I'm just saying these moves don't really mean anything for the team, which is what was asked. Other teams that were also already better than us got even better. Not sure what the problem with these comments are...?

If you think Norris Cole means anything significant for this team, I disagree. Williams is being bought out. Smith likely won't play. Hamilton likely won't play. Not really any significant change for the team and other teams did get better. That's the facts of life. Not to mention, Cole hasn't been much better than Rivers or Jimmer this year, though I do agree he's an upgrade.

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It means we are trying to make the playoffs. If we weren't trying wr do nothing. We could have just signed Toney Douglas for a min contract for the rest of the season. It's not an improvement like OKC but we aren't just packing it in.

Report: Heat trade Norris Cole to the Pelicans for John Salmons pic.twitter.com/kGUd1RTWuV

— NBA TV (@NBATV) February 19, 2015

Pretty sure it is Cole and Hamilton coming (not sure about Smith), with only Salmons leaving. From an energy standpoint, I love the trio of Dante, Quincy and Cole. Those three guys can do most of the dirty work in whatever role. I like the move.

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar

It means we are trying to make the playoffs. If we weren't trying wr do nothing. We could have just signed Toney Douglas for a min contract for the rest of the season. It's not an improvement like OKC but we aren't just packing it in.

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You and I have different interpretations of the moves. I am not opposed to them, but I don't think they sway things in any particular direction other than some increased value and more flexibility in the future.

IMO

We now have a better bench than OKC, even after the trades.

They have a bench?

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Originally Posted by Caffeinedisastr

IMO

We now have a better bench than OKC, even after the trades.

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Idk... they have some solid role players on that team now.

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Originally Posted by saintsinNO

You and I have different interpretations of the moves. I am not opposed to them, but I don't think they sway things in any particular direction other than some increased value and more flexibility in the future.

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I'm don't think they sway anything but we are a better team than doing nothing. Especially since we gave up nothing.

I still think OKC > NO based off of them having Durant and Westbrook while we only have AD and a bunch of jokers.

Cole, Gordon, Cunningham, AD, and Asik as your starters with Evans, Ryno, and Q-Pon off the bench is a pretty good team. Not to mention when Holiday comes back we will actually have another ball handler and point guard to run the second team! It's going to be awesome to see the second team not look like chickens with their heads cut off!

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Originally Posted by Topdawg26

Cole, Gordon, Cunningham, AD, and Asik as your starters with Evans, Ryno, and Q-Pon off the bench is a pretty good team. Not to mention when Holiday comes back we will actually have another ball handler and point guard to run the second team! It's going to be awesome to see the second team not look like chickens with their heads cut off!

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Gonna go on a limb and say Reke starts until Jrue's return. Could be wrong but don't see Monty starting Cole.

If we buy out Hamilton so what, if we keep him though, Withey has competition.

I like it. No harm, no foul.

I don't know I kind of liked the idea of having Williams, but whatever. Cole is gonna help this team short term and long term. We get a good backup point guard for Jrue next season.

Don't see us making the playoffs, so I'm already looking to next season.

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Originally Posted by Topdawg26

Cole, Gordon, Cunningham, AD, and Asik as your starters with Evans, Ryno, and Q-Pon off the bench is a pretty good team. Not to mention when Holiday comes back we will actually have another ball handler and point guard to run the second team! It's going to be awesome to see the second team not look like chickens with their heads cut off!

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I would love to see Reke off the bench w/ Q-pon, Anderson & Babbitt standing on the lines ! Along w/ Ajinca> Hell, we wont be able to stop anybody, but we sure as hell can score quick !

http://bigeasybeliever.com/2015/02/1...ris-cole-heat/ my attempt at covering the meat of this insane deadline for the Pels..

Cole, Hamilton & Williams for Salmons.....and Ish Smith for minor pieces??

http://theadvocate.com/sports/pelica...e-john-salmons

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Originally Posted by Yanks2740

Idk... they have some solid role players on that team now.

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Collison
Waiters
Morrow
Kanter

or

Ryno
Tyreke
Q-Pon
Cole?

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

I still think OKC > NO based off of them having Durant and Westbrook while we only have AD and a bunch of jokers.

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And yet we've won the season series.

I still think OKC more likely to get the playoff spot, only cause they don't have play us again.

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Originally Posted by Andynola

Cole, Hamilton & Williams for Salmons.....and Ish Smith for minor pieces??

http://theadvocate.com/sports/pelica...e-john-salmons

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What is a minor piece.

We're not getting in the playoffs without holiday. Jrue is so much better than our other guards on defense and FT percentage. We'll need Jrue if we want the playoffs. I hope he can come back. I have a feeling they'll hold him back even more than 3 weeks. Whatever it takes let him get healthy. He's the 2nd best on this team.

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Originally Posted by pelicanchamp

We're not getting in the playoffs without holiday. Jrue is so much better than our other guards on defense and FT percentage. We'll need Jrue if we want the playoffs. I hope he can come back. I have a feeling they'll hold him back even more than 3 weeks. Whatever it takes let him get healthy. He's the 2nd best on this team.

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What if I told you:

that we got to the playoffs then had a well rested Jrue ready to play?

Well look at this. I step away for a few hours and come back to Cole being on the team.

I'm sorry but ANY trade that gives us a backup of for Salmons is a huge win.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Well look at this. I step away for a few hours and come back to Cole being on the team.

I'm sorry but ANY trade that gives us a backup of for Salmons is a huge win.

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That's my take on this as well. This feels like a zero-risk trade.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Well look at this. I step away for a few hours and come back to Cole being on the team.

I'm sorry but ANY trade that gives us a backup of for Salmons is a huge win.

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This is how I feel.

A good show me period for Cole. If he looks good, we can give him the QO and keep him for another year. If not, no harm, no foul

Getting Cole creates more stability at PG. he's a good defender. If Jrue comes back I will be happy to have Cole in the backup role. He'll probably perform better having AD, Ryno, Gordon to work with. I'm happy with the move.

Cole
Qpon
Cunningham
Ryno
AD

Would be interesting...
Also you never know, we could see:

Cole
Gordon
Tyreke
AD
Asik

The saddest part of the trade is now I have no one to call Salmonella when he plays a few minutes every couple weeks.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

The saddest part of the trade is now I have no one to call Salmonella when he plays a few minutes every couple weeks.

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We don't have Salmonella anymore. :( actually salmons sucks and we got a young PG who is capable of helping this team.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Well look at this. I step away for a few hours and come back to Cole being on the team.

I'm sorry but ANY trade that gives us a backup of for Salmons is a huge win.

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Amen to that man. Now if only we'd been able to package jimmer and send him to idk, haiti, then eternal bliss. But i'm still ok with the trade as it is