I don't think we have been throwing any resources at the sf problem. We haven't been putting a bandage on that shot gun wound, we have just been letting it go undressed and hoping that the opponents sf has an off night.
Finding very good shooters isn't hard...it used to be (for us at least), but not any longer. Thats why I was all for bringing in Swaggy P. I wonder what it would take to get Jeremy Evans over here, or Jeff Adrian. Neither are all world, but both have solid games.
Wow Jimmert is the turth!
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10-15-2014, 10:43 AMUNO Gracias
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10-15-2014, 10:45 AMJimmerTimeKick rocks. :hihi:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurgan
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10-15-2014, 10:46 AMUNO Gracias
The suffering of the man who paid $1000 for tickets and the man who paid $1 for tickets are the same. Its all proportionate to what you can afford to pay for your suffering.
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10-15-2014, 10:46 AMNpliamThere is no way that Jimmer can maintain this level of production for an entire season. 58% from three isn't going to happen and neither is 60% from 2. It will be interesting to see the reaction on the board when he struggles a couple a game in a row.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pelicanned
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10-15-2014, 10:47 AMNpliamProbably not that much for Jeremy Evans. Not sure he is you answer at the 3 though.Quote:
Originally Posted by UNO Gracias
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10-15-2014, 10:48 AMNOLA NBAYea right, that ridiculous. If all you can afford is $1 then your right about suffering but its not in proportion to the outcome of the team, its in life. And i pay way more than $1000 and for that money i don't want to see Dan Dickau type athletes.Quote:
Originally Posted by UNO Gracias
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10-15-2014, 10:49 AMJimmerTime
NOLA NBA, stop sending me personal messages about Jimmer. You creeper! :hihi:
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10-15-2014, 10:52 AMUNO GraciasWe have Evans who we will play at sf, and while he isn't a true sf, we will play him as such. I am just looking for a guy to come in here and be a glue person. I think that both Adrian and Evans fill that role.Quote:
Originally Posted by Npliam
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10-15-2014, 10:53 AMUNO GraciasYou want to see Kobe, Melo, Lebron, Howard, Nash, and whoever elses jersey you own, I get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by NOLA NBA
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10-15-2014, 10:59 AMNOLA NBAHa, never owned a jersey in my life. No i don't want to see guys whose talent level is equal to mine. I want to see great athletes. Dan Dickau/Jimmer Fredette are not professional athletes in my humble noble opinion. They are good for what they were good at, college basketball. Leave it there Dan/Jimmer, the NBA isnt for you!Quote:
Originally Posted by UNO Gracias
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10-15-2014, 11:05 AMUNO Gracias
Apparently heart, grit, and determination aren't for you, which begs the question...how do you think guys like Lebron, Kobe, CP3, etc. got to where they were? Just loafing around?
I don't know who is saying that Jimmer or Dickau will lead a team to the finals, or win an MVP, but NBA teams are filled with guys just like them. Our team just happens to have Jimmer and Rivers while a team like the Clippers have an Ekpe Udoh, and Hedo Turkalough. Teams have bench guys. Aint no shame in having bench guys. -
10-15-2014, 11:08 AMNOLA NBA
Lebron, Kobe, CP3 have heart, grit, determination and GREAT ATHLETIC ABILITY. Dan/Jimmer HAVE LITTLE TO NO ATHLETIC ABILITY. Grit, hustle and heart with no athletic ability will get you through college, but not the NBA. Dude, Jimmer can't hold Turkoglu's jock. Turkoglu smokes three packs a cigarettes a day and still balls.
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10-15-2014, 11:21 AMNpliamYour opinion is neither humble or noble.Quote:
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10-15-2014, 11:24 AMUNO Gracias
Dan Dickau, Mateen Cleaves, Ryan Bowman, Sean Marks. These are the names of men who made long NBA career out of little NBA talent and plenty of G/H/H/D. The NBA is full of these types of guys, so why are you on Jimmer's jock about it? Is somebody here claiming that he is the Pelicans savior or something? I don't think anyone here (that is on the level) think he will be much more than a solid role player in the A. Morrow mold. Is there something wrong with that? Must an NBA team field All Star players like the 03-04 Lakers to command your respect, because if so move on, that will never happen here.
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10-15-2014, 11:43 AMNOLA NBAI will never stop expressing my opinion as is my right to do do as a long term season ticket holder that spends alot of money on tickets that I do not want Jimmer's on the team I pay to see. Don't want them. I want better. Nothing wrong with expresssing that.Quote:
Originally Posted by UNO Gracias
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10-15-2014, 11:46 AMEman5805
You want a better 3 point shooting player on our bench? Um. Well. I mean, okay. Sure, whatever. But it's coming off more like you don't want JimErsay Freedent on the team himself. Like you have something against him.
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10-15-2014, 11:51 AMUNO Gracias
Express it all you want. Cry it from Benson Towers. Take out a full page ad in the Times Picayune and the Gambit. I am sure Del will take it under consideration, just like he took it under consideration to sign Jomer Fredet.
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10-15-2014, 11:53 AMNOLA NBAWell i'm sure he would listen to people who actually spend money on the team and at games as opposed to 99% of this board who never buy tickets or support the team in any way shape or form.Quote:
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10-15-2014, 12:04 PMUNO Gracias
You are right, money talks. Go knock on his door and demand that he cut/ trade Jimmer (and don't forget to tell him that you are a season ticket holder). Your opinion will probably move ahead of Monty's.
2 questions for you.
1) Whats your beef with Jimmer?
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10-15-2014, 12:10 PMIamQuailman
I love when people pull out the per48 stat! Can't wait for the per72!
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10-15-2014, 12:13 PMUNO GraciasOr the Per3936Quote:
Originally Posted by IamQuailman
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10-15-2014, 12:13 PMIamQuailmanI bet Jimmer is elite in that areaQuote:
Originally Posted by UNO Gracias
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10-15-2014, 01:04 PMRaisingTheBarWho is ever going to play 48 minutes per game????Quote:
Originally Posted by IamQuailman
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10-15-2014, 01:09 PMUNO Gracias
Didn't Jimmy Butler play some crazy amount of minuets last year, to the point where outsiders were screaming for Thibs to sit him? I believe it was a 2 or 3 game span though (not an entire season).
Looking at those numbers now, it appears that Butler played 41.9 and 42.4 mpg in March and April.
Melo, Butler, Durant, DeRozen, and Harden all played over 38 min a game last season. -
10-15-2014, 02:11 PMMistaWhoDat
For all those hating on the Jimmer fanatics for there love affair with the guy I don't understand all the negativity for him from you . He's on this team can we just support him and let's see what he can bring to this team .
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10-15-2014, 02:17 PMKibnerYeah, let's give him the same respect and treatment we give the head coach and highest paid player of our team.Quote:
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10-15-2014, 02:22 PMMistaWhoDatYou must have quoted the wrong post I don't see that anywhere in what I wrote but I will however reserve my judgement until the regular season and give him that much respect .Quote:
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10-15-2014, 02:35 PMKibnerSupporting someone is believing in them and being there for them when they struggle. It is often part of treating a person with respect.Quote:
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Didn't think I would need to explain that joke. C'est la vie. -
10-15-2014, 02:47 PMMMEmbreno
Jimmer highlights from last night..
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc1NGD9140U -
10-15-2014, 02:56 PMMythrol
I hope Jimmer blows up this year and is an All-Star. I also hope Rivers does, And our entire team. I'd love for our team to all take such a huge step forward that we field an entire team of All-Stars.
I will pull for everyone on the team and still criticize mistakes and issues I see. No need for Jimmer fans to feel the world is against them here. We all want him to blow up. At the same time we will critique him just like every other player. No need to be heavy handed with your love of him here. -
10-15-2014, 03:08 PMNOLA NBA
Yes, let's support journeyman below average players and defend them. Let' also run off one of the best players on the roster and not support him even though he has been injured for most of his time here. Seems like a winning recipe.
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10-15-2014, 03:12 PMRaisingTheBarWhat exactly does fan support supposed to win?Quote:
Originally Posted by NOLA NBA
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10-15-2014, 03:15 PMNOLA NBAA place where good NBA players are supported, want to play and will stay. Instead let's support Rivers and Jimmer, equates to a losing franchise.Quote:
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10-15-2014, 03:20 PMRaisingTheBarI fail to see how who a fan chooses to support has anything to do with a franchise winning or losing. That's just absurd. I'm going to start supporting Jimmer and Rivers like crazy now, just to **** you off.Quote:
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10-15-2014, 03:45 PMWhoDatPelican
I believe in Jimmerivers
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10-15-2014, 03:46 PMisitsundayTell that to cleavland when lebron left oh wait how about telling that to miami nowQuote:
Originally Posted by NOLA NBA
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10-15-2014, 03:46 PMUNO Gracias
NOLA NBA, I asked this before, but I never heard your response
1) Whats your beef with Jimmer?
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10-15-2014, 03:54 PMDroopyDawg
In case anybody cares... here are AD's highlights from last night
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10-15-2014, 04:10 PMNOLA NBALook at his career, everyone who had him dumped him. He's not very good, has little upside. Will not add much to this team. Not a beef, a reality. He will add little to nothing to this team. Replacing him may not even be necessary he may only play 5 minutes a game.Quote:
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10-15-2014, 04:14 PMNOLA NBAThere's nothing you could ever do in the entirety of your life to **** me off. haha.Quote:
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10-15-2014, 04:18 PMNOLA NBAI just think it not very intelligent to throw glaring support to players who will never amount to nothing and talk everyday about trading an actual good NBA player who has only not lived up to his contract because he was injured. Doesn't **** me off, just think it's makes no sense.Quote:
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10-15-2014, 04:36 PMNOLa.
This dude is mad.
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10-15-2014, 05:01 PMUNO Gracias
Who is the good player we are talking about trading? Gordon? There was talk of trading Gordon a few months ago, but I think since the draft people have been content with waiting til the trade deadline to make a move on that front.
As for having hope in Jimmer and Rivers... some guys develop later (the list is pretty long), and it appears that far more people think these two guys are worth another year, and some end of the bench minuets than think that neither should be out of the league. I think you are the vocal minority here. -
10-15-2014, 05:14 PMLouisianaPrideHow is putting stock into a guy who's never came close to playing a full season except for his rookie year that much smarter?Quote:
Originally Posted by NOLA NBA
I find it quite hypocritical you think 3rd year players wont amount to anything but hang your hat on a guy that's been in the league 6 years and played 311 out of 492 games. Why does being injured give him an excuse? If he was as good as you apparently think he will be it doesn't matter anyway if he's always hurt. Its not like we are dealing with a small sample size here either. -
10-15-2014, 05:20 PMMythrol
I think he is missing the fact that Jimmer and Rivers combined salary is less than 1/3 of Gordon's.
People wanting Gordon gone has much less to do with his actual production and more to do with his cost.
I don't understand how its so hard to grasp the concept that bench guys who haven't got a ton of minutes and are cheap are looked at in a much different light than our Max contract player who's heart is in Phoenix. -
10-15-2014, 05:23 PMUNO Gracias
I think of Gordon and the injuries he has incurred over his time here and my mind steers me back to the times Baron Davis played for us and was hurt.
Both are/were good players, both got paid nice money, both got hurt a whole lot (how many of those injuries were real or not are a different subject). Davis didn't do any good for us after his last playoff run with us until he was traded for Speedy Claxton and loose change. -
10-15-2014, 05:24 PMLouisianaPride
I just don't understand the mindset of thinking that 3rd years guys wont live up to potential but a guy 6 years in will.
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10-15-2014, 06:41 PMDRDJ1I hear the cleavage in cleavland is very niceQuote:
Originally Posted by isitsunday
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10-15-2014, 06:56 PMfullcourtpresslol you........ I had season tickets that one year on the freaggin floor!!!!! Lawd.... they hustled alright. lolQuote:
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10-15-2014, 07:00 PMN.O.BroncoIt's called opportunity costs.Quote:
Originally Posted by NOLA NBA
On the one hand you have a guy, Jimmer Fredette, on a one year salary for $950,000 being asked to be a shooting specialist off the bench for 10 minutes or so a night. On the other hand you have a guy who is being payed almost $15,000,000 a year, more then guys like Tony Parker, James Harden or Demarcus Cousins, who was expected to play like a franchise superstar but has instead been often injured and has consistently underperformed.
The opportunity cost of Jimmer is almost nothing, he's low risk, high reward - in fact I would be curious who you think we could get better for $950,000? Then you have Eric Gordon, who's opportunity cost could of been a player like Trevor Ariza this offseason and then $6,000,000 in savings to put toward another player. Which for instance could of kept Morrow here and never had to sign this guy Jimmer you seem to hate so much. Fielding a lineup of Jrue, Evans, Ariza, Davis and Asik with Ryno, Morrow and Rivers manning the main reserves. All with money to spare.
There is a world of difference in the expectations between Gordon and Jimmer. If the Jimmer signing fails it will have little impact on our longterm prospects as a team. The Gordon signing on the other hand has hand-tied this franchise for several seasons now and is a roadblock to truly building the team needed around Davis to take that next step.
At this point he's not going anywhere, so I am rooting for him like crazy because we need him to play well to 1.) help us get to the playoffs and 2.) to opt out this offseason to free up $15,000,000.