I'm not one to gossip, but...Trade w/ Wolves?!?

Moute and Martin needs to happen

So does K. Martin, Corey Brewer and the draft rights to Glenn Robinson III for Eric Gordon sound right to anyone else, or have i just conjured up the looney toons' realm.

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Originally Posted by DroopyDawg

I hate Kevin Martin's game... and he don't play ANY defense. But if getting him means we can shed some salary to absorb Asik without giving up Ryno or Rivers, then I'll welcome KMart with open arms.

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I still say it's important that if Martin WANTS to play here, then that's something. Gordon doesn't wanna be here. As important as finances are in the NBA, I'd still rather have a guy who wants to be here than a guy who doesn't.

If they feel they can dump Martin and Budinger for a shorter contract in Gordon who might opt out or who the potential to make a comeback, they might do it. I'm sure they view the Budinger contract as bad. So it'd only be an increase of about 3m/yr for them and clear S&T least one bad contract with one that ends sooner.

I can dream.

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Originally Posted by Spec3333

A guy named Reke

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that's what I figured but I wasn't 100% sure of it

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Originally Posted by NemesisKING

So does K. Martin, Corey Brewer and the draft rights to Glenn Robinson III for Eric Gordon sound right to anyone else, or have i just conjured up the looney toons' realm.

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From all indicates that's loony. But let's see what magic Dell works. If they want Rivers too I easily give it to them. They want our new Pg Smith? Sure. Anybody not part of our 5 main players they can have if they take Gordon.

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Originally Posted by JunkHead

I still say it's important that if Martin WANTS to play here, then that's something. Gordon doesn't wanna be here. As important as finances are in the NBA, I'd still rather have a guy who wants to be here than a guy who doesn't.

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Look at it this way... I'd rather have a guy that doesn't want to be here for 7 mill and is WORTH it... rather than a guy that doesnt want to be here that isn't worth 15 mil we owe him.

Gordon is killing our ability to make moves. At least KM will give us some cap flex even if they bring someone else over.

Is there a 'twolvesreport.com' or something to see if anybody there has heard anything - and if they would hate it or not?

Kevin Martin doesn't play defense, true. But he also is comfortable with playing off the bench. And if we don't retain Gordon, Brian Roberts, and Austin Rivers, then we'll need some points. Martin would provide them. We won't need him to play much defense anyway.

Well a 3rd team could be added that takes on a Minny player into cap space or gives up some asset to Minny. That's probably how it would need to happen.

Kmart has a longer contract, but it is very reasonable for his skillset and he's way more tradeable than Gordon.

I also don't believe this for even a second. Too good for us, not enough motivation for Minny.

How about Shabazz Muhammad? I've heard people mentioning we don't need a SF who can D up and get rebounds. Plus with Reke in the starting lineup we need shooting and I'm not saying Shabazz shot the ball we'll last year bc he didn't play but I am saying a new surrounding could make all the difference. Imagine the confidence he would gain starting alongside jrue Reke AD and Asik. Right now as of today if this Gordon for Martin trade were to happen and Shabazz was included he would be the best SF in our roster even if we had Darrius miller and Aminu, but we wouldn't, it would be bazz time.

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Originally Posted by DroopyDawg

I hate Kevin Martin's game... and he don't play ANY defense. But if getting him means we can shed some salary to absorb Asik without giving up Ryno or Rivers, then I'll welcome KMart with open arms.

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Hit it on the head!

I also don't believe it. Not saying it's a BS rumor. but I just can't make myself believe it's possible. I hope I'm wrong. This is what everyone on this forum wants. It seems so unreal.

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Originally Posted by MMEmbreno

How about Shabazz Muhammad? I've heard people mentioning we don't need a SF who can D up and get rebounds. Plus with Reke in the starting lineup we need shooting and I'm not saying Shabazz shot the ball we'll last year bc he didn't play but I am saying a new surrounding could make all the difference. Imagine the confidence he would gain starting alongside jrue Reke AD and Asik. Right now as of today if this Gordon for Martin trade were to happen and Shabazz was included he would be the best SF in our roster even if we had Darrius miller and Aminu, but we wouldn't, it would be bazz time.

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I'm a gambler. Why not?

Oh right, cuz he's not a very good basketball player.

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Originally Posted by Hugeaux II

Is there a 'twolvesreport.com' or something to see if anybody there has heard anything - and if they would hate it or not?

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On realGm they actually like the deal

I would hope they would try Tyreke coming off the bench and starting Kevin Martin. Tyreke did well playing with a healthy Anderson with the second unit once they got a couple of healthy games under their belt. I think Tyreke avg almost 20 pts per game during that stretch (I think it was somewhere around late dec to jan or something like that) so it can work.

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Originally Posted by 504ByrdGang

On realGm they actually like the deal

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link? I am terrible navigating realGM. Also did you create an alt with sixers flair on r/nba? :hihi:

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Originally Posted by PrimeTimeNOLA

I would hope they would try Tyreke coming off the bench and starting Kevin Martin. Tyreke did well playing with a healthy Anderson with the second unit once they got a couple of healthy games under their belt. I think Tyreke avg almost 20 pts per game during that stretch (I think it was somewhere around late dec to jan or something like that) so it can work.

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Tyreke played his best in the starting lineup without Anderson actually.

Hopefully they try to get brewer than chase. Chase had a bad knee injury and re-injured it again, I believe.

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Originally Posted by Smirk

Well a 3rd team could be added that takes on a Minny player into cap space or gives up some asset to Minny. That's probably how it would need to happen.

Kmart has a longer contract, but it is very reasonable for his skillset and he's way more tradeable than Gordon.

I also don't believe this for even a second. Too good for us, not enough motivation for Minny.

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Pure speculation on my part, but the motivation for Minnesota would be to shed the longer contract of Martin, potentially acquire the better player, and perhaps gun for an outside chance of making a run that convinces Love not to opt out, i.e. replicating what the Blazers just went through with Aldridge. If it falls apart, they make whatever team wants Lpve also take Gordon at the deadline, or they hope that with Love gone Gordon won't want to stick around Minnesota and will opt out. Therefor giving them a ton of cap flexibility as they begin the rebuild.

Salary aside, if he was healthy and motivated, Gordon could possibly be a really good compliment to Rubio in the backcourt and Love in the frontcourt.

Minnesota has 2 options IMHO, 1) trade Love now and start your rebuild. 2) Go all in this offseason with the best roster of relatively short contracts and potentially good players you can put around Love to start the season.

can someone discuss the fact that pelicans just let brian roberts go?

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Originally Posted by PrimeTimeNOLA

I would hope they would try Tyreke coming off the bench and starting Kevin Martin. Tyreke did well playing with a healthy Anderson with the second unit once they got a couple of healthy games under their belt. I think Tyreke avg almost 20 pts per game during that stretch (I think it was somewhere around late dec to jan or something like that) so it can work.

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No .....no start that dude he earned it

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Originally Posted by Pantazis76

can someone discuss the fact that pelicans just let brian roberts go?

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There is a separate thread you know

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Originally Posted by Kumar

There is a separate thread you know

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really haha i couldnt find it

http://www.pelicansreport.com/showth...Unresticted-FA

Here's the RealGM linkage

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/view...?f=2&t=1330932

Gordon for Martin and Budinger would be amazing. Wouldn't mind Brewer either, but I'd rather the spacing.

In a perfect world, you'd have Evans starting, and Martin coming off bench. Holiday starting as PG, and Rivers coming off bench as PG. Keeping in some scoring AND having some defense in the backcourt as well. Toss in the dude Smith as a possibility and it gives a little more versatility. My only thought is what happpens to Morrow in this scenario? Is he retained if possible? Or no? I like Morrow. But I'm afraid if this trade happens we have no use for him? Or if we do, it's more or less at SF. How would that work?

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Originally Posted by JunkHead

In a perfect world, you'd have Evans starting, and Martin coming off bench. Holiday starting as PG, and Rivers coming off bench as PG. Keeping in some scoring AND having some defense in the backcourt as well. Toss in the dude Smith as a possibility and it gives a little more versatility. My only thought is what happpens to Morrow in this scenario? Is he retained if possible? Or no? I like Morrow. But I'm afraid if this trade happens we have no use for him? Or if we do, it's more or less at SF. How would that work?

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Odds are we wouldn't go hard after Morrow. Which is fine.

If the Wolves view it as a win, that's even more awesome. Let's get it done.

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Originally Posted by Kumar

link? I am terrible navigating realGM. Also did you create an alt with sixers flair on r/nba? :hihi:

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nah that wasn't me

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/view...?f=2&t=1330932

No need for Morrow with Kmart in the back IMO. Kmart can stroke it. If this frees up the MLE and BAE, then use that money to get your SF and use bird rights to retain Smith and and a few others.

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Originally Posted by 504ByrdGang

nah that wasn't me

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Ah okay. There is a new account with sixers flair and all he does is comment good stuff about the Pellies.

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Originally Posted by Coughka

Tyreke played his best in the starting lineup without Anderson actually.

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That was also because he most of the offense had to go through him. We had no jrue and anderson; then eric was spotty also. I was just saying it could work. You can have a balanced attack with the starters and the bench. A 20 ppg 6th man tyreke and a 20 ppg KMartin is better than a 20 ppg starting tyreke and a 14 ppg 6th man KMartin. If tyreke is capable of producing 17-20 ppg of the bench why not use him there?

I just would rather a larger sample size of a healthy second unit of tyreke and anderson to compare it against him starting last yr, to see if its truly best to start tyreke. Because last yr we only got a sample size of what 10 games maybe?!? That's not enough to make a sound decision in my opinion.

But i trust they will make the right decison

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Originally Posted by Kumar

No need for Morrow with Kmart in the back IMO. Kmart can stroke it. If this frees up the MLE and BAE, then use that money to get your SF and use bird rights to retain Smith and and a few others.

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Yeah I figured that. I just really like Morrow. Hate to see him leave. But after this past season, hopefully he could go somewhere else and make some fat cash.

what is K-Mart per 36's lol

If I'm trading Gordon I want K-Mart and Mount

God I hope this is true.

Funny that we all seem to think that EG's contract is toxic to trade, and they seem to think the same about Martin

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Originally Posted by PrimeTimeNOLA

That was also because he most of the offense had to go through him. We had no jrue and anderson; then eric was spotty also. I was just saying it could work. You can have a balanced attack with the starters and the bench. A 20 ppg 6th man tyreke and a 20 ppg KMartin is better than a 20 ppg starting tyreke and a 14 ppg 6th man KMartin. If tyreke is capable of producing 17-20 ppg of the bench why not use him there?

I just would rather a larger sample size of a healthy second unit of tyreke and anderson to compare it against him starting last yr, to see if its truly best to start tyreke. Because last yr we only got a sample size of what 10 games maybe?!? That's not enough to make a sound decision in my opinion.

But i trust they will make the right decison

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He is better as a starter... so let him start... plus he said he's better as a starter

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Originally Posted by NOLa.

God I hope this is true.

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+1

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Originally Posted by Blackout

what is K-Mart per 36's lol

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You rang? lol

Edit ... a better look

http://igravitymedia.com/km2.jpg

Ok I'm gonna ask this too, if... IF... this rumor is true, when will we know? If it's out there, and is real, some of the bigger leakers on Twitter would mention it I'd think. Nothing so far that i see. Soo... When do we KNOW if this is possible or not?

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Originally Posted by PrimeTimeNOLA

That was also because he most of the offense had to go through him. We had no jrue and anderson; then eric was spotty also. I was just saying it could work. You can have a balanced attack with the starters and the bench. A 20 ppg 6th man tyreke and a 20 ppg KMartin is better than a 20 ppg starting tyreke and a 14 ppg 6th man KMartin. If tyreke is capable of producing 17-20 ppg of the bench why not use him there?

I just would rather a larger sample size of a healthy second unit of tyreke and anderson to compare it against him starting last yr, to see if its truly best to start tyreke. Because last yr we only got a sample size of what 10 games maybe?!? That's not enough to make a sound decision in my opinion.

But i trust they will make the right decison

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When Anderson was healthy Tyreke went off too

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Originally Posted by Blackout

what is K-Mart per 36's lol

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Over the past 4 years:

PPG: 25.9(10) 19.4(11) 18.2(12) 21.5(13)
43.5% FG
38.5 % 3 point
89% FT
2.4 Ast
3.2 Reb
1 Steal

265/312 games played so he's stayed reasonably healthy

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

+1

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I thought you quoted your own post

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Originally Posted by PrimeTimeNOLA

That was also because he most of the offense had to go through him. We had no jrue and anderson; then eric was spotty also. I was just saying it could work. You can have a balanced attack with the starters and the bench. A 20 ppg 6th man tyreke and a 20 ppg KMartin is better than a 20 ppg starting tyreke and a 14 ppg 6th man KMartin. If tyreke is capable of producing 17-20 ppg of the bench why not use him there?

I just would rather a larger sample size of a healthy second unit of tyreke and anderson to compare it against him starting last yr, to see if its truly best to start tyreke. Because last yr we only got a sample size of what 10 games maybe?!? That's not enough to make a sound decision in my opinion.

But i trust they will make the right decison

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Not only was Tyreke ineffectual as a 6th man, but the advanced stats bear out that he and Jrue are an excellent pairing.

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Originally Posted by tyler

I thought you quoted your own quote

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Pack of wolves cause we don't follow the rules

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Originally Posted by JunkHead

Ok I'm gonna ask this too, if... IF... this rumor is true, when will we know? If it's out there, and is real, some of the bigger leakers on Twitter would mention it I'd think. Nothing so far that i see. Soo... When do we KNOW if this is possible or not?

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Wouldn't be the first time though. RekeHavoc with the Ryno injury. This dude broke the Jason Kidd story on realGM two days ago, and everyone laughed at him. But it became public today. http://forums.realgm.com/boards/view...f=23&t=1330298

Anything is possible.

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Originally Posted by tyler

He is better as a starter... so let him start... plus he said he's better as a starter

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Yeah i know, he said he feels more comfortable starting because all he has to do is attack. So I understand your point. The main thing is whats best for the team. Manu was better as a starter also. Even felt more comfortable starting and didnt like it. But Pop saw fit that it was best for the TEAM for Manu to come off the bench, and manu grew into his role. With that being said if the sample size is the same for both him starting and him coming of the bench and both show he avg close to 20 ppg but KMartin drops by 5 pts by him going to the bench, which option do you feel is better for the TEAM?

Not to mention putting tyreke in the starting line up takes a shooter away from the starters and also takes a driver away from the bench which would be best suited for Ryan Anderson. But thats just my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Kumar

Wouldn't be the first time though. RekeHavoc with the Ryno injury. This dude broke the Jason Kidd story on realGM two days ago, and everyone laughed at him. But it became public today. http://forums.realgm.com/boards/view...f=23&t=1330298

Anything is possible.

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that guy got laughed at so much! how funny