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06-17-2014, 03:20 PM
DroopyDawg

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Originally Posted by studentofthegam

Adam Schefter reports stuff that has already happened like signed contracts and stuff. Has no impact

I'm not sure you know what you're talking about but keep going... this is getting fun.

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06-17-2014, 03:21 PM
HornetGuru

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Originally Posted by Noggy

But he isn't what we need, and Ryno is more valuable than him with Smith and Ajinca and Withey on our roster. Who can do what Asik does for about 10% of the cost and we still have Ryno.

he is PART of what we need, we need a post banger for defense, rebounding, and post offense, and players that can do all 3 are rare. I feel like we have plenty of offense, a true defensive center could give us a nice team, but i'm not a GM.
06-17-2014, 03:34 PM
RUFshreve

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

he is PART of what we need, we need a post banger for defense, rebounding, and post offense, and players that can do all 3 are rare. I feel like we have plenty of offense, a true defensive center could give us a nice team, but i'm not a GM.

Ryno makes Tyreke's game much more effective. Asik would have the opposite effect.
06-17-2014, 03:35 PM
HornetGuru

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Originally Posted by RUFshreve

Ryno makes Tyreke's game much more effective. Asik would have the opposite effect.

Very good point, only way i move ryno is for a SF who can space the floor and then use the MLE on someone like blatche.
06-17-2014, 04:28 PM
Tomdda

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

I hate to tell y'all this and beat a dead horse, but don't be surprised when fell trades ryno, Gordon and a future first to acquire a good center and sf, I just feel it in my veins. This team would have been a playoff team if injury free, then add Monroe and parsons and we are a 3 seed next year

The Rockets are only going to let Parsons go in a S&T, IF they let him go at all. You propose a trade w/ the Pistons Gordon/Ryno for Monroe, is this right? Who will be left from this roster that the Rockets will want to take back in a S&T for Parsons that Dell will be willing to give up? I also don't get who gets our 1st round pick in your scenario.

Basically, I'm saying we'll probably get two players this offseason that you could label a C and a SF, but I'll bet any amount of money you're willing to lose that those players aren't Monroe AND Parsons.
06-17-2014, 04:32 PM
NMThreeMVP

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Originally Posted by Tomdda

The Rockets are only going to let Parsons go in a S&T, IF they let him go at all. You propose a trade w/ the Pistons Gordon/Ryno for Monroe, is this right? Who will be left from this roster that the Rockets will want to take back in a S&T for Parsons that Dell will be willing to give up? I also don't get who gets our 1st round pick in your scenario.

Basically, I'm saying we'll probably get two players this offseason that you could label a C and a SF, but I'll bet any amount of money you're willing to lose that those players aren't Monroe AND Parsons.

So... if we could trade Gordon/Anderson for Monroe, AND if Houston could get a guy like Carmelo, then we could offer a contract to Parsons that Houston might not be inclined to match if Parsons wants to play for us.

That's a lot of not very unlikely IFs... but it's possible.
06-17-2014, 04:35 PM
Pelicantoo

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Originally Posted by RekeHavoc

The reason I have this source is because I know information I can share and information I can't. Also don't think it's possible for my source to be fired haha.

Maybe you should stick to trying to get people to want Beasley. I'll make sure to tell Dell of your ideas bro. I'm sure he'll get a good laugh.

Please do this. I will send you a $100 dollar bill if you get a direct quote from Dell
06-17-2014, 04:43 PM
Pelicantoo

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Originally Posted by nola007

Seriously, Boozer is finished, Dunleavy is garbage and 16? What the heck would we get at 16, and throw in the fact we have Dell Demps doing the drafting(Austin Rivers at 10, what a joke). You give Chicago two proven NBA players and we get and old man, a bum and a pick.

I don't like the trade any more than you do but you're sad for calling out Dell on his drafting. Okay, who should he have taken that was reasonably projected in this range? Myers Leonard? Kendall Marshall? Jeremy Lamb? It was a 9-deep draft, we got unlucky by having 10th. Maybe Lamb, but I'm not sure I prefer him over rivers right now. 1 can shoot and can't play defense, one can play defense and can't shoot.
06-17-2014, 04:58 PM
NMThreeMVP

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Originally Posted by nola007

Seriously, Boozer is finished, Dunleavy is garbage and 16? What the heck would we get at 16, and throw in the fact we have Dell Demps doing the drafting(Austin Rivers at 10, what a joke). You give Chicago two proven NBA players and we get and old man, a bum and a pick.

Boozer would provide everything Carl Landry did when he was here. At this point in his career he's a capable backup PF that averaged 13 and 8 last season and could easily give us 20+ minutes a night.

Dunleavy would be better than any SF we currently have on the roster and can't be left unguarded like our current SFs.

Pick 16 could be a guy who's starting by the end of the season and feels a long term need at C or SF like Nurkic, Anderson, Early, Young, Saric, Warren or McDaniels.

And extra $4m this year would bring us to $11m in cap space and allow us to do almost anything we wanted; Tucker, Ariza, Monroe, resigning Morrow.

And $20m next offseaon puts in a great position to complete our roster for contention.

...all for Ryan Anderson. And little whiny, overpaid, often injured Eric Gordon.
06-17-2014, 06:53 PM
PELICANSFAN

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Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP

Boozer would provide everything Carl Landry did when he was here. At this point in his career he's a capable backup PF that averaged 13 and 8 last season and could easily give us 20+ minutes a night.

Dunleavy would be better than any SF we currently have on the roster and can't be left unguarded like our current SFs.

Pick 16 could be a guy who's starting by the end of the season and feels a long term need at C or SF like Nurkic, Anderson, Early, Young, Saric, Warren or McDaniels.

And extra $4m this year would bring us to $11m in cap space and allow us to do almost anything we wanted; Tucker, Ariza, Monroe, resigning Morrow.

And $20m next offseaon puts in a great position to complete our roster for contention.

...all for Ryan Anderson. And little whiny, overpaid, often injured Eric Gordon.

You are that confident that pick 16 will be starting by the end of the season? Boozer is an overpaid old one year "rental". So we would only be giving up one year of Gordon (if he opts in) and we would be taking on a 34 year old Dunleavy for a year with a mid 1st round pick and giving up a solid stretch 4 in the prime of his career on a relatively cheap contract. I think too many are too desperate to get rid of Gordon. That trade is terrible IMO.
06-17-2014, 07:55 PM
NMThreeMVP

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

You are that confident that pick 16 will be starting by the end of the season? Boozer is an overpaid old one year "rental". So we would only be giving up one year of Gordon (if he opts in) and we would be taking on a 34 year old Dunleavy for a year with a mid 1st round pick and giving up a solid stretch 4 in the prime of his career on a relatively cheap contract. I think too many are too desperate to get rid of Gordon. That trade is terrible IMO.

Gaining $4m in cap space this season and having $20m in cap space next season is valuable. In fact it's the most valuable part of the trade, IMO.

Ryan Anderson is a solid stretch 4 in the prime of his career, true, but he's also coming back from a sort of serious injury, plays the same position as our best player, and will be an unrestricted free agent the same year as our best player who plays the same position he does.

I think Ryan Anderson and Eric Gordon's combined $24m in 2015 could be better used on a SF and a C. Nothing against Ryno, he's just playing a luxury position and can't defend SFs or Cs. That's what the trade is about. It's Boozer/Dunleavy/16 and whoever you spend $24m on. Something like Gordon/Anderson/Pierre for Kyle Anderson/Greg Monroe, then resigning Morrow and max money flexibility for a starting SF in 2015. Or a PJ Tucker this year and a Center like Gasol or Lopez or Jordan in 2015. All those thing become possible because of this trade.
06-17-2014, 08:08 PM
Saints63213

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Originally Posted by RekeHavoc

Just wanted to share some of the information I've heard from my source recently.

The first thing he told me, which was a few weeks ago, was that two guys we might target this offseason were Spencer Hawes and Omer Asik. (Personally don't love either, definitely not Hawes given the money he'd get).

Then much more recently he had a few more interesting things to say. He said that Dell did not seem to think we'd be able to bring back Morrow (not sure if it's because we have other plans or he wants a more lucrative pay day). He also said we do not want to trade Ryan at all, but Dell thinks at some point we may have to, in order to improve team.

Also he mentioned he thinks this year will determine whether Monty keeps his job, but keep in mind this is coming from Dell Demps' camp, so it would be unlikely for him to say Dell was on the hot seat, even though it seems he has a shorter lease than Monty.

Edit: One more thing I forgot to add: Not that we have a coaching opening or will in the future, but my guy said that Dell is not a fan of Marc Jackson at all, wouldn't ever bring him here to be the coach. For the record, I'm not a fan either.

only way pels should take Asik is in a gordon trade or in a ryno trade that nets us Parsons too....
06-17-2014, 08:14 PM
IamQuailman

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Originally Posted by Saints63213

only way pels should take Asik is in a gordon trade or in a ryno trade that nets us Parsons too....

I didn't even read your post.... I will in a second I swear, but hot damn Dat Avatar
06-17-2014, 10:21 PM
RekeHavoc

Just wanted to give another update. I was asking about the rumors involving us getting a draft pick, and he said the draft pick would basically just be used as an asset and that the goal would be to trade it. I think what might happen is we trade Pierre for a pick and then if a team is targeting a certain guy we could package the pick and get someone we wanted.

Sounds very Dell-like.
06-17-2014, 10:28 PM
aas3452

Nice! Thanks for the info!
06-17-2014, 10:34 PM
HornetGuru

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Originally Posted by RekeHavoc

Just wanted to give another update. I was asking about the rumors involving us getting a draft pick, and he said the draft pick would basically just be used as an asset and that the goal would be to trade it. I think what might happen is we trade Pierre for a pick and then if a team is targeting a certain guy we could package the pick and get someone we wanted.

Sounds very Dell-like.

Ryno, Gordon, and 1st round pick for Asik, Parsons and a 2nd rounder.

I think dell hates to get rid of ryno but if it means getting rid of gordon he might do it, plus ryno only has 2 years left on his good contract, the more time we wait to trade him, the more his value declines.

Jrue
Tyreke
Parsons
AD
Asik

great blend of athleticism, scoring, shooting, defense, and rebounding.
06-17-2014, 10:38 PM
tyler

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

Ryno, Gordon, and 1st round pick for Asik, Parsons and a 2nd rounder.

I think dell hates to get rid of ryno but if it means getting rid of gordon he might do it, plus ryno only has 2 years left on his good contract, the more time we wait to trade him, the more his value declines.

Jrue
Tyreke
Parsons
AD
Asik

great blend of athleticism, scoring, shooting, defense, and rebounding.

I really don't see us getting parsons and plus I read somewhere that parson says he want to be on a winning team
06-17-2014, 10:43 PM
jgman

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

Ryno, Gordon, and 1st round pick for Asik, Parsons and a 2nd rounder.

I think dell hates to get rid of ryno but if it means getting rid of gordon he might do it, plus ryno only has 2 years left on his good contract, the more time we wait to trade him, the more his value declines.

Jrue
Tyreke
Parsons
AD
Asik

great blend of athleticism, scoring, shooting, defense, and rebounding.

hmm i think I've seen this one before somewhere
06-17-2014, 10:44 PM
504ByrdGang

It seems like we're agrees aggressively going after a big but I see no news about sf's which we have none of.
06-17-2014, 10:50 PM
wuggie

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Originally Posted by RekeHavoc

Just wanted to give another update. I was asking about the rumors involving us getting a draft pick, and he said the draft pick would basically just be used as an asset and that the goal would be to trade it. I think what might happen is we trade Pierre for a pick and then if a team is targeting a certain guy we could package the pick and get someone we wanted.

Sounds very Dell-like.

Yes, it sounds very Dell like.
06-17-2014, 10:59 PM
Mythrol

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

not bad, our current 7 million plus 4 would give us 11 mil for hayward or parsons and we could use the MLE for blatche.

you can't sign a player with cap space and use the MLE. nor would we be able to sign Hayward or Parsons away for 11M. they are RFA.
06-17-2014, 10:59 PM
RUFshreve

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

Ryno, Gordon, and 1st round pick for Asik, Parsons and a 2nd rounder.

I think dell hates to get rid of ryno but if it means getting rid of gordon he might do it, plus ryno only has 2 years left on his good contract, the more time we wait to trade him, the more his value declines.

Jrue
Tyreke
Parsons
AD
Asik

great blend of athleticism, scoring, shooting, defense, and rebounding.

I would love that trade for us, but I just can't see Houston letting Parsons go. And would EG be their 6th man? I don't see why they would want him unless he promised to opt out next year, so Houston could go after a big name in 2015 FA.
06-17-2014, 11:05 PM
Mythrol

Why would Houston take back Gordon?

Are we expected to believe that they will take Gordon, give up Parsons, and provide us with one of few bigs that can counter Dwight for Ryno and a mid/late first? And say "oh btw here's a 2nd rounder."

Geez there's been some unrealistic trade suggestions lately but that just might be the worst in awhile.

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06-17-2014, 11:08 PM
PELICANSFAN

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Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP

Gaining $4m in cap space this season and having $20m in cap space next season is valuable. In fact it's the most valuable part of the trade, IMO.

Ryan Anderson is a solid stretch 4 in the prime of his career, true, but he's also coming back from a sort of serious injury, plays the same position as our best player, and will be an unrestricted free agent the same year as our best player who plays the same position he does.

I think Ryan Anderson and Eric Gordon's combined $24m in 2015 could be better used on a SF and a C. Nothing against Ryno, he's just playing a luxury position and can't defend SFs or Cs. That's what the trade is about. It's Boozer/Dunleavy/16 and whoever you spend $24m on. Something like Gordon/Anderson/Pierre for Kyle Anderson/Greg Monroe, then resigning Morrow and max money flexibility for a starting SF in 2015. Or a PJ Tucker this year and a Center like Gasol or Lopez or Jordan in 2015. All those thing become possible because of this trade.

When did a bench player who can also play with AD at times on the court and average about 30 minutes a game become a luxury? Do only the starting 5 matter? Boozer and Dunleavy are just expirings at this point. So, would you be banking that we can draw a stud FA that outweighs losing a 26 year old stretch 4 who contributes 16-18 ppg and 6-8 rpg off the bench? For this team, I would take Anderson at $8 million a year over Monroe at the max.
06-17-2014, 11:09 PM
HornetGuru

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Why would Houston take back Gordon?

Are we expected to believe that they will take Gordon, give up Parsons, and provide us with one of few bigs that can counter Dwight for Ryno and a mid/late first? And say "oh btw here's a 2nd rounder."

Geez there's been some unrealistic trade suggestions lately but that just might be the worst in awhile.

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don't think it's that bad, asik doesn't wanna be there, and while he is he is taking up big cap space, with ryno it would be a perfect compliment to dwight and terrence jones. jones would play PF offensively and SF defensively, and the rockets reportedly were interested in pairing gordon with harden before, and they also get a 1st rounder. I think this trade makes both teams better.
06-17-2014, 11:09 PM
PELICANSFAN

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

Ryno, Gordon, and 1st round pick for Asik, Parsons and a 2nd rounder.

Please tell me you are not serious with that one.
06-17-2014, 11:11 PM
PELICANSFAN

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

don't think it's that bad, asik doesn't wanna be there, and while he is he is taking up big cap space, with ryno it would be a perfect compliment to dwight and terrence jones. jones would play PF offensively and SF defensively, and the rockets reportedly were interested in pairing gordon with harden before, and they also get a 1st rounder. I think this trade makes both teams better.

So why is Parsons not the perfect compliment to Dwight and Jones? He seems like a better fit that Ryan as Jones is better suited for the 4 and Parsons can handle defending the 3. Why take on a $15 million cap hit in Gordon to get rid of an $8 million cap hit in Asik?
06-17-2014, 11:11 PM
HornetGuru

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Originally Posted by tyler

I really don't see us getting parsons and plus I read somewhere that parson says he want to be on a winning team

Possibly, but he's a basketball player and i'm sure he knows a promising team when he sees one, who wouldn't want to play with 2 guards who like to pass the ball and also be able to play with AD. Parsons would love to be here because he would get to do his favorite thing, sit in the corner and let jrue or tyreke drive and dish him the ball for the 3.

I also have to think the rockets want to sign and trade him, this is why they didn't pick up his team option, I see no other reason why they didn't, he was on the best contract in the NBA.
06-17-2014, 11:12 PM
HornetGuru

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

So why is Parsons not the perfect compliment to Dwight and Jones? He seems like a better fit that Ryan as Jones is better suited for the 4 and Parsons can handle defending the 3. Why take on a $15 million cap hit in Gordon to get rid of an $8 million cap hit in Asik?

I think he is a great fit with them, but maybe they don't, which is why they didn't pick up his deal, or maybe they don't want to pay him the 12 mil they think he will get so they can have cap space to go after melo, i really don't know.
06-17-2014, 11:14 PM
PELICANSFAN

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

I also have to think the rockets want to sign and trade him, this is why they didn't pick up his team option, I see no other reason why they didn't, he was on the best contract in the NBA.

Because it prevents him from becoming unrestricted next year. They force this issue a year early in order to have the option of matching an offer and if the price gets too high, they can S&T and get something back (even if that is a TPE).
06-17-2014, 11:14 PM
HornetGuru

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Please tell me you are not serious with that one.

it's not that far fetched, they get a great piece in ryno, get a 1st rounder, and don't have have to use the massive cap space to sign parsons.
06-17-2014, 11:16 PM
HornetGuru

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Because it prevents him from becoming unrestricted next year. They force this issue a year early in order to have the option of matching an offer.

Good point, like I have said I'm no expert, or claim to be, just thinking of ideas.

People also thought it was impossible to trade okafor and ariza, but the wizards did and he thrived

no one thought we could trade juju for marco

everyone thought rudy gay was an absolute immovable contract, but the kings wanted him.

Point is, nothing is impossible.
06-17-2014, 11:17 PM
HornetGuru

Maybe a straight up sign and trade for chandler parsons or gordon hayward for ryno and a late 1st and then we sign blatche.
06-17-2014, 11:24 PM
Mythrol

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

don't think it's that bad, asik doesn't wanna be there, and while he is he is taking up big cap space, with ryno it would be a perfect compliment to dwight and terrence jones. jones would play PF offensively and SF defensively, and the rockets reportedly were interested in pairing gordon with harden before, and they also get a 1st rounder. I think this trade makes both teams better.

what scares me is that you actually think its a good trade for them.

Gordon is an injury prone SG who is on a max. He would have to come off the bench for them. they move one of their only good trade pieces in Parsons and are still stuck with Lin. Asik is irrelevant because he is expiring this year. Jones has never player SF. there is absolutely no evidence he can defend 3's.

you are basically saying trade one of the 2 worse contracts in the league for Asik, Parsons, and a 2nd rounder while only giving up Ryno and a 1st that is mostlikely Pierre Jackson value. you are saying the Rockets want Ryno so bad that they give up their starting SF while having no good replacement, accept back a max player who is awful at a position they already have a max player at, and give a division rival a possible counter to their other max player. oh and also put their promising young PF who started last year back on the bench while STILL not upgrading their PG and making themselves thin at SF.

why don't you just go all in and suggest Gordon and Ryno for Durant because Ibaka can play C and Westbrook and Gordon would be great together.
06-17-2014, 11:27 PM
HornetGuru

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

what scares me is that you actually think its a good trade for them.

Gordon is an injury prone SG who is on a max. He would have to come off the bench for them. they move one of their only good trade pieces in Parsons and are still stuck with Lin. Asik is irrelevant because he is expiring this year. Jones has never player SF. there is absolutely no evidence he can defend 3's.

you are basically saying trade one of the 2 worse contracts in the league for Asik, Parsons, and a 2nd rounder while only giving up Ryno and a 1st that is mostlikely Pierre Jackson value. you are saying the Rockets want Ryno so bad that they give up their starting SF while having no good replacement, accept back a max player who is awful at a position they already have a max player at, and give a division rival a possible counter to their other max player. oh and also put their promising young PF who started last year back on the bench while STILL not upgrading their PG and making themselves thin at SF.

why don't you just go all in and suggest Gordon and Ryno for Durant because Ibaka can play C and Westbrook and Gordon would be great together.

Well the way i look at it is they are built to win now and chandler and ryno are close in skill but asik rides the bench and they could afford to take the risk with gordon because if it doesn't pan out in 2 years he will be a huge expiring and will be in rebuild mode anyway.

and the gordon and ryno for durant was my next trade idea.
06-17-2014, 11:34 PM
Mythrol

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

Well the way i look at it is they are built to win now and chandler and ryno are close in skill but asik rides the bench and they could afford to take the risk with gordon because if it doesn't pan out in 2 years he will be a huge expiring and will be in rebuild mode anyway.

and the gordon and ryno for durant was my next trade idea.

so win now means taking back a max player at a position they already have one at, benching their cheap Very Good PF all to get rid of Asik but accepting back 3x's his cap? while making themselves thin at another position and not addressing their need at PG.

Gordon isn't anywhere near worth the risk for them. they already have a SG. they need a PG. Asik is an 8M expiring. he isn't going to break their back I'd they have to keep him one more year. Gordon's contract is awful for them and they'd be trading for a max bench player. I don't think you are actually thinking this one through guru.
06-17-2014, 11:36 PM
tyler

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

Possibly, but he's a basketball player and i'm sure he knows a promising team when he sees one, who wouldn't want to play with 2 guards who like to pass the ball and also be able to play with AD. Parsons would love to be here because he would get to do his favorite thing, sit in the corner and let jrue or tyreke drive and dish him the ball for the 3.

I also have to think the rockets want to sign and trade him, this is why they didn't pick up his team option, I see no other reason why they didn't, he was on the best contract in the NBA.

Why would he love to be here??? Sorry but we haven't proved anything yet.... And the whole concept about him love being with two guards.... I'm probably sure he loves being with harden and Howard more
06-17-2014, 11:45 PM
Mythrol

I appreciate the enthusiasm Guru but I think you are developing trades that we would jump on in a heartbeat but the other team would sadly laugh us off the phone.

Maybe if the Rockets GM gets drunk and has some compromising pictures taken. . .

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06-17-2014, 11:55 PM
HornetGuru

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

I appreciate the enthusiasm Guru but I think you are developing trades that we would jump on in a heartbeat but the other team would sadly laugh us off the phone.

Maybe if the Rockets GM gets drunk and has some compromising pictures taken. . .

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possibly, I've been wanting a good SF for so long, juju, posey, ariza, I'm tired of waiting lol
06-18-2014, 01:35 AM
studentofthegam

Here's what we should do. Trade Rivers and Jackson for pick in teens. Next package pick and Gordon to rebuilding team. Similar to what GS did with Richard Jefferson and Andries. You have like 21 million now. Then use cap space to sign a C and a SF. I say perhaps two for like 8 million each. Now you use rest of cap space to fill out bench. This fills out perfect roster giving up very little, makes us a title contender IMO
06-18-2014, 02:52 AM
tyler

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Originally Posted by studentofthegam

Here's what we should do. Trade Rivers and Jackson for pick in teens. Next package pick and Gordon to rebuilding team. Similar to what GS did with Richard Jefferson and Andries. You have like 21 million now. Then use cap space to sign a C and a SF. I say perhaps two for like 8 million each. Now you use rest of cap space to fill out bench. This fills out perfect roster giving up very little, makes us a title contender IMO

I don't think teams value Austin as much as we do
06-18-2014, 07:04 AM
Mythrol

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

possibly, I've been wanting a good SF for so long, juju, posey, ariza, I'm tired of waiting lol

I think we are all in the same boat about that!
06-18-2014, 09:08 AM
RekeHavoc

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Originally Posted by studentofthegam

Here's what we should do. Trade Rivers and Jackson for pick in teens. Next package pick and Gordon to rebuilding team. Similar to what GS did with Richard Jefferson and Andries. You have like 21 million now. Then use cap space to sign a C and a SF. I say perhaps two for like 8 million each. Now you use rest of cap space to fill out bench. This fills out perfect roster giving up very little, makes us a title contender IMO

First of all, no rebuilding team would take Eric Gordon into their cap space, for a pick that would probably be around 20. A more realistic one would be packaging Gordon with the first pick, for an expiring and then having a ton of cap space for the summer of 2015. Also it will still take us a little time to be a title contender... AD needs to continue to grow and all the players need to continue to mesh. I think we can be a very good team without even huge improvements to the roster, but it will be a few years at least before we are title contenders. My best guess is starting around 2016 we'll be title contenders probably for the next 10 years.
06-18-2014, 10:39 AM
Eman5805

Would a rebuilding team take Rudy Gay? Cuz two have so far...
06-18-2014, 11:21 AM
Sleeper

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Would a rebuilding team take Rudy Gay? Cuz two have so far...

This gives me some hope but at least Gay stayed healthy and played on a playoff team.

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06-19-2014, 09:20 AM
RekeHavoc

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Would a rebuilding team take Rudy Gay? Cuz two have so far...

I'm not saying a rebuilding team wouldn't take Eric Gordon, but not without giving back bad contracts. My point was a rebuilding team with cap space is not just going to absorb his contract, allowing us to have cap space right away.
06-19-2014, 10:45 AM
Pelicantoo

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Originally Posted by RekeHavoc

I'm not saying a rebuilding team wouldn't take Eric Gordon, but not without giving back bad contracts. My point was a rebuilding team with cap space is not just going to absorb his contract, allowing us to have cap space right away.

I think our best bet would be to trade Eric gordon to a team who has a bad contract that may be for less money, but is for a longer number of years (This is the Sanders, J. Smith, Mcgee, K. Perkins, Bargnini, G wallace group). Bonus points for the teams chasing huge stars in Free agency (Boston, OKC, NYK) who may whiff on a big star and give us a sweetener to give them a semi-servicable player for an unserviceable one for less per-year money. We may be able to find a team with cap space willing to bite on gordon if we sweeten the deal with young assets or a 1st rounder. I think the most likely option is that Gordon stays 1 more year and his corpse of a contract is used on a team that wants to blow it up. The only possible real scores I see are f Detroit or Chicago or OKC whiffs in FA and decides that they really need scoring SG, maybe we could swing that.
06-25-2014, 09:32 PM
RekeHavoc

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Originally Posted by studentofthegam

Wow. You are doing us such a great service by releasing Dell's private plans to the public. I'm sure Dell greatly appreciates it. NOT. I hope your source gets found out and fired.

I'm really sorry for releasing this info and messing up Dell's plans. Oh wait...
06-25-2014, 09:39 PM
ramsters60

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Originally Posted by RekeHavoc

I'm really sorry for releasing this info and messing up Dell's plans. Oh wait...

good post....
06-25-2014, 09:45 PM
Eman5805

I think by this point, any further doubts about RekeHavoc can be put to bed.

You are the man!

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