Broussard: Hornets Gauging Interest in Gordon {merged all of Gordon rumors}

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Originally Posted by GeauxPelicans

Ben Gordon (13.2 million expiring next year when multiple teams will be worried about luxury tax penalties) and the rights to Detroits 1st or Charlotte's 1st (whichever is higher in this year's draft) for Eric Gordon. He value might be this bad as of now

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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--so...165657267.html

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Originally Posted by LouisianaPride

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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--so...165657267.html

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I wouldn't be happy playing in NC either.

If we get Klay from Golden State, we will probably have to eat salary.... I also think the Mayo trade would work for the Hornets in the long term.

Harrison Barnes is a rising star asked to be a role player right now. he could be more of a dynamic player than Klay. Very interesting.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

Yes, theyre entire team is full of injury riddled players which they seem willing to gamble on with curry and bogut signing 1 long term and trading for the other. There only chance for a title will be soon while they are healthy and while they would love to wait for banres to become the player he could be they are ready now, its a good trade for both teams

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right, their team is full of injury riddled players so wouldn't they want to trade for a player who ISN'T injury riddled, and not currently around 80%(I guess) to win now, and instead trade for a player who actually plays the position they are lacking in? if they wanted to move klay to sf they could do that and start jjack or brandon rush or something at the 2, or they could just have barnes come off the bench behind richard jefferson, idk but it seems like trading a future great, or at least good player so that they have more of a problem at the 3(only having one real sf on their roster) and so they can start 3 guards is not an answer for winning now. And for us? Gordon is supposed to be our cornerstone and is the only true scorer who is (supposed)to be able to consistently create his own shot and others, and we give him up for Barnes and a mid-late first? that isn't enough either, we address one need at sf and create another at sg

I would be just fine with Mayo, we keep our 1st round pick, have a healthy SG, save salary in order to sign pekovic and budinger, no arguments here

I'd take back Biendrins salary for Barnes+1st rounder.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

I would be just fine with Mayo, we keep our 1st round pick, have a healthy SG, save salary in order to sign pekovic and budinger, no arguments here

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Not sure if I was the Mavs why I would do this. But as a Hornets fan, Mayo is a very legit shooting guard, maybe second or third best in the league under 30. Plus he comes at a cheap price.

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Originally Posted by jgman

right, their team is full of injury riddled players so wouldn't they want to trade for a player who ISN'T injury riddled, and not currently around 80%(I guess) to win now, and instead trade for a player who actually plays the position they are lacking in? if they wanted to move klay to sf they could do that and start jjack or brandon rush or something at the 2, or they could just have barnes come off the bench behind richard jefferson, idk but it seems like trading a future great, or at least good player so that they have more of a problem at the 3(only having one real sf on their roster) and so they can start 3 guards is not an answer for winning now. And for us? Gordon is supposed to be our cornerstone and is the only true scorer who is (supposed)to be able to consistently create his own shot and others, and we give him up for Barnes and a mid-late first? that isn't enough either, we address one need at sf and create another at sg

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So ur saying jack is a starting SG for a title contender? I see theres no reasoning with u, I withdraw U win. Also a quote I like to use, never argue with idiots, they will bring you down and beat u with experience.

mayo's expiring... and we have no guarantee that we keep Mayo either.

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Originally Posted by rubicon

Not sure if I was the Mavs why I would do this. But as a Hornets fan, Mayo is a very legit shooting guard, maybe second or third best in the league under 30. Plus he comes at a cheap price.

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Mayo is playing well, but gordon is still the superior player in every aspect, especially defense and passing, mayo is putting up better numbers because of the talent around him, Gordon has no one, just my opinion but i think dallas knows this as well

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Originally Posted by IamQuailman

mayo's expiring... and we have no guarantee that we keep Mayo either.

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We would without a doubt require a sign and trade obviously.

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar

I wouldn't be happy playing in NC either.

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wouldnt be my first choice but is it that hard to act professional

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Originally Posted by LouisianaPride

wouldnt be my first choice but is it that hard to act professional

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Nope, I guess he just really doesn't want to be there.

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Originally Posted by HunnyB

Based off...

http://i49.tinypic.com/33y5mps.jpg

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Made me laugh out loud while I had customers in my store

Rockets fan here would yall be interested in this deal?

Houston: Dwight Howard, Aminu

Lakers: Eric Gordon, Omer Asik and Toney Douglas

Hornets: Chander Parsons, Terrence Jones, Earl Clark, Cole Aldrich and some draft picks?

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

So ur saying jack is a starting SG for a title contender? I see theres no reasoning with u, I withdraw U win. Also a quote I like to use, never argue with idiots, they will bring you down and beat u with experience.

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I'm an idiot for disagreeing with your ridiculous trade idea? Does Gordon sitting on their bench becasue he cant even play back to backs or more than what, 27mins a game? and having no cap space and one sf equate to them being contenders? And it has been repeatedly reported that we would only trade Gordon for tremendous value, which we aren't getting in your trade, it is unrealistic and I'm the idiot

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Originally Posted by ascaptjack

Rockets fan here would yall be interested in this deal?

Houston: Dwight Howard, Aminu

Lakers: Eric Gordon, Omer Asik and Toney Douglas

Hornets: Chander Parsons, Terrence Jones, Earl Clark, Cole Aldrich and some draft picks?

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No.

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Originally Posted by iNolaNightmare

I'd take back Biendrins salary for Barnes+1st rounder.

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I have always been High on Barnes, as I'm sure Hornets78 can remember. I would not mind that. I would have hoped for more but I am about giving up on Gordon.

Sign me up for any deal bringing Barnes/Thompson here w/ a draft pick.

Then we can end the draft pick debate, and make a serious run at McLemore since we now have a hole at the SG spot.

Biendris contract is only on the books for one more season and we'd have a lot of money to throw around as Gordon's MAX deal is off our books. If we can pull the trigger on something like this, it wouldn't be bad at all.

Possibly still make our run at Jennings in a Lin type poisoned pill type offer that MIL couldn't afford.

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Originally Posted by ascaptjack

Rockets fan here would yall be interested in this deal?

Houston: Dwight Howard, Aminu

Lakers: Eric Gordon, Omer Asik and Toney Douglas

Hornets: Chander Parsons, Terrence Jones, Earl Clark, Cole Aldrich and some draft picks?

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I live in Houston and go to a bunch of the games. Moving Asik is not essential. I think they are better served going after Dwight and just having Asik play the four. Now there will be defense. Aminu is someone who I think the Rockets would be interested in. Him and maybe Lopez I really doubt they have interest in Gordon. The same goes with the Lakers. The Lakers would rather Lin if they have future plans on keeping D'Antoni. As far as the Hornets are concerned. Parsons is a nice player for his salary and the others are some decent prospects, but this is clearly overstating Parsons as a player.

Omg! All of this trade talk, my old heart of 21 years can't take the excitement! *Faints at work while people stare*

Why does everyone overrate other teams players and underrate our players? I don't get it...

Klay Thompson is a shooter who can't shoot. The guy is under 42% from the field this year, and his defense is totally average. He had the best game of his career against us, and that's all that people remember. Harrison Barnes is an unproven rookie who is having a below average year with regard to other starting SFs.

Check out their horrible win shares on a winning team (0.066 and 0.070):

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...thompkl01.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...barneha02.html

And yeah, Gordon is having a down year, which is understandable considering he's playing inured, hasn't played basketball in a year in a half, and is playing with a whole new team.

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

Why does everyone overrate other teams players and underrate our players? I don't get it...

Klay Thompson is a shooter who can't shoot. The guy is under 42% from the field this year, and his defense is totally average. He had the best game of his career against us, and that's all that people remember. Harrison Barnes is an unproven rookie who is having a below average year with regard to other starting SFs.

Check out their horrible win shares on a winning team (0.066 and 0.070):

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...thompkl01.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...barneha02.html

And yeah, Gordon is having a down year, which is understandable considering he's playing inured, hasn't played basketball in a year in a half, and is playing with a whole new team.

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I agree that people on this board overrates players on other teams....It seems as though people pick their favorites and continuously toss out irrelevant trade ideas that never come to fruition for the sake of conversation...it is a message board so I get it. But I don't think our players are underrated at all. GV is playing the best he ever has and nobody knows if this will continue throughout his career, its simply too early to tell. We already knew what we were getting from Anderson and he has lived up to expectations. Aminu was always inconsistent and I personally never felt like he would improve much and he really hasnt. He just has these random "Flash" games. The only player on the roster that I feel is underrated is Lopez. Everyone else outside of the rookies and Anderson is pretty mediocre as we don't know what's going on with Gordon.

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

Why does everyone overrate other teams players and underrate our players? I don't get it...

Klay Thompson is a shooter who can't shoot. The guy is under 42% from the field this year, and his defense is totally average. He had the best game of his career against us, and that's all that people remember. Harrison Barnes is an unproven rookie who is having a below average year with regard to other starting SFs.

Check out their horrible win shares on a winning team (0.066 and 0.070):

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...thompkl01.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...barneha02.html

And yeah, Gordon is having a down year, which is understandable considering he's playing inured, hasn't played basketball in a year in a half, and is playing with a whole new team.

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Sad thing is I am not overrating other teams players. I may be underrating Gordans trade value but at this point.... how can you even gauge it?

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

Why does everyone overrate other teams players and underrate our players? I don't get it...

Klay Thompson is a shooter who can't shoot. The guy is under 42% from the field this year, and his defense is totally average. He had the best game of his career against us, and that's all that people remember. Harrison Barnes is an unproven rookie who is having a below average year with regard to other starting SFs.

Check out their horrible win shares on a winning team (0.066 and 0.070):

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...thompkl01.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...barneha02.html

And yeah, Gordon is having a down year, which is understandable considering he's playing inured, hasn't played basketball in a year in a half, and is playing with a whole new team.

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Thank you, thank you, and thank you.

We should hold on the Gordon at least till trading deadline next season.

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

Why does everyone overrate other teams players and underrate our players? I don't get it...

Klay Thompson is a shooter who can't shoot. The guy is under 42% from the field this year, and his defense is totally average. He had the best game of his career against us, and that's all that people remember. Harrison Barnes is an unproven rookie who is having a below average year with regard to other starting SFs.

Check out their horrible win shares on a winning team (0.066 and 0.070):

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...thompkl01.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...barneha02.html

And yeah, Gordon is having a down year, which is understandable considering he's playing inured, hasn't played basketball in a year in a half, and is playing with a whole new team.

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Thank you, thank you, and thank you.

Whats everyone opinion on whether Gordon would approve of being trade to any these teams since he does have veto rights to any trade untill july 2013.

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Originally Posted by Davisistheman

Whats everyone opinion on whether Gordon would approve of being trade to any these teams since he does have veto rights to any trade untill july 2013.

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I can't see him refusing a trade to any team that is winning.

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

Why does everyone overrate other teams players and underrate our players? I don't get it...

Klay Thompson is a shooter who can't shoot. The guy is under 42% from the field this year, and his defense is totally average. He had the best game of his career against us, and that's all that people remember. Harrison Barnes is an unproven rookie who is having a below average year with regard to other starting SFs.

Check out their horrible win shares on a winning team (0.066 and 0.070):

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...thompkl01.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...barneha02.html

And yeah, Gordon is having a down year, which is understandable considering he's playing inured, hasn't played basketball in a year in a half, and is playing with a whole new team.

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too much logic in just one post. My head is gonna explode

How about this, http://espn.go.com/nba/trademachine?tradeId=b54dad3.
Golden State gets alot of expirings and gives them players for a title run this year.
Dallas gets building blocks with Gordon and Dirk with alot of money to spend next year.
We get alot of youth and 2 contracts that expire after next year (which can be moved for picks or wait till money comes off for resigning)

If Dallas needs more ,Golden State can throw in a first or Ezeli can go to Dallas. On the trade machine we come out even, Dallas loses but they're throwing the towel for next years free agents anyway, and Golden state increase by 6 for a run in the playoffs and cap space next year.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

I wonder what that10 percent is based off of lol.

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It basically means there is just enough of smidgen of truth here for me to justify posting this and getting all of these web clicks for ESPN insider...

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Originally Posted by tdcreator

How about this, http://espn.go.com/nba/trademachine?tradeId=b54dad3.
Golden State gets alot of expirings and gives them players for a title run this year.
Dallas gets building blocks with Gordon and Dirk with alot of money to spend next year.
We get alot of youth and 2 contracts that expire after next year (which can be moved for picks or wait till money comes off for resigning)

If Dallas needs more ,Golden State can throw in a first or Ezeli can go to Dallas. On the trade machine we come out even, Dallas loses but they're throwing the towel for next years free agents anyway, and Golden state increase by 6 for a run in the playoffs and cap space next year.

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The link you posted takes us to the trade machine main page. Or at least me.

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Originally Posted by sting

We should hold on the Gordon at least till trading deadline next season.

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Of course we should.

Our Team looks like
Vasques, Rivers
Mayo, Mason
Barnes, Miller
Davis, Ryno, Beidrins
Lopez, Ezeli, Smith

We still have a first for McLemore(if lucky), Smart, Porter, or maybe Bennett as a matchup 3/4. (I know Bennett has been considered a 4 but can play spot 3 against some slower/bigger 3's)

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Originally Posted by Davisistheman

Whats everyone opinion on whether Gordon would approve of being trade to any these teams since he does have veto rights to any trade untill july 2013.

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I think he'd be ecstatic to go to the Warriors. A team with great chemistry that's winning lots of games in beautiful San Francisco. He also gets to reunite with his bud J-Jack.

Saw this on another site, I think the Pacers seem like legit landing spot if Gordon is traded but don't know about the value of this deal.

Pacers - Gordon, Smith, 2014 2nd rd pick

Pelicans - George, Stephenson, West (Expiring Contract)

I can't get it to share so here it is
Dallas Gets Gordon
Golden State gets Kaman, Carter, and Aminu
We get Mayo, Barnes, Beidrins, and Ezeli

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Originally Posted by Davisistheman

Saw this on another site, I think the Pacers seem like legit landing spot if Gordon is traded but don't know about the value of this deal.

Pacers - Gordon, Smith, 2014 2nd rd pick

Pelicans - George, Stephenson, West (Expiring Contract)

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Lol this was never happen.

No way Indiana does that trade. Giving up George and West for an injury riddled Gordon gives them no chance to compete with Miami

The problem with Mayo which was just presented to me by MM, is that mayo's contract is expiring. He has a player option, which means he will be an unrestricted free agent demanding 8-10 Mill.

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Originally Posted by Davisistheman

Saw this on another site, I think the Pacers seem like legit landing spot if Gordon is traded but don't know about the value of this deal.

Pacers - Gordon, Smith, 2014 2nd rd pick

Pelicans - George, Stephenson, West (Expiring Contract)

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Only in our dreams. No way we get George for Gordon.

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Originally Posted by BigEasyBrow

No way Indiana does that trade. Giving up George and West for an injury riddled Gordon gives them no chance to compete with Miami

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Sounded like a lot, The thought with West was hes a FA this summer and likely won't resign in indy? I have no idea were it came from but I haven seen were DWest wouldn't be back with Indy.

Man I just gave u an Internet Hi5. We will never be happy.

Klay Thompson may not have a great FG% this year, but he shoots a good clip from 3, and has a great FT%. I'd be happy with Barnes and Thompson for Gordon, Smith and our first round pick this year unprotected. I think that's a realistic win/win for both teams.

Chandler Parsons has got to be the most underrated player in the NBA.

Look at his salary,

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/houston-r...ndler-parsons/

Around 880,000 a year for 15 PPG/4 Assists/6 Rebounds.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

Please lord if you can land us one of these trades I will be forever greatful!

Parsons + Montejunas + Rocket's 1st for Gordon
Klay Thompson + Warrior's 1st for Gordon
Barnes + Warrior's 1st for Gordon

parsons dropped 21-8-9 tuesday vs the warriors, only problem is that he is already 25 but would be in his prime in 2 years which is a plus. Would love to get him then package our first and rockets first to get mclemore or shabazz

klay thompson is a freak, 22 years old, 6"7, sharpshooting ace, averaging 16.5-4.5-2.5 as a SG, package our 1st and rocket's first and move up to get shabazz or stay put and take otto porter

Harrison Barnes having a nice rookie year averaging 9 points and 4.5 rebs, shooting a great 37% from 3, looks to be an incredible athlete and potential to be a lock down defender, would love to get him, package our 1st and rockets 1st, move up to get mclemore or shabazz

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Oh god! Anyways, I see a deal with the Warriors but the only player I see moving from GS is Klay, and IDK how him a GV would work together as both is slow.


I say keep Gordon but if we do go and get the home town guy Danny Granger from(there is no chance Paul George goes) Indiana, it would be nice to get a pick in a mid round from a guy like Aminu so we can grab someone who may fall like Nerlen Noel or something. Grangers a good player who can do everything, even play the post and defend Lebron.

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Originally Posted by ascaptjack

Chandler Parsons has got to be the most underrated player in the NBA.

Look at his salary,

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/houston-r...ndler-parsons/

Around 880,000 a year for 15 PPG/4 Assists/6 Rebounds.

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Every heard of Greivis Vasquez?

1.1mil

14ppg
9apg
4rpb

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Originally Posted by tdcreator

Our Team looks like
Vasques, Rivers
Mayo, Mason
Barnes, Miller
Davis, Ryno, Beidrins
Lopez, Ezeli, Smith

We still have a first for McLemore(if lucky), Smart, Porter, or maybe Bennett as a matchup 3/4. (I know Bennett has been considered a 4 but can play spot 3 against some slower/bigger 3's)

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How did we get Barnes AND Mayo?

I like mayo plus a first
parsons and a 1st
barnes and a 1st
paul george for gordon and our 1st
any of these are fine with me