2013 Pelicans Roster - Version 50.0

Salary cap for next year is 70-71 million

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Originally Posted by GeauxPelicans

Gordon 14.283
Anderson 8.308
Davis 5.375
Smith 2.5
Rivers 2.339
Vasquez 2.15
That equals 34.955 million, if we don't pick up anyone's option. Cap is 58 million right? U can only go into Kix tax to sign people already on your own team (unless I'm wrong) so that gives the Pelicans 23.045 mill to spend if they don't pick up anyone's option. If I'm wrong, someone tell me please and if I am than I apologize.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

Salary cap for next year is 70-71 million

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Cap hasn't been set to my knowledge. Can you show me where it's been set ? I thought it was 58 mill this year. Highly doubt it goes up 13 mill even with the high BRI

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

Salary cap for next year is 70-71 million

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Subtract about 10 or 11 from that.

im sorry, the cap is 58 and the luxury tax cap is 71

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Cap hasn't been set to my knowledge. Can you show me where it's been set ? I thought it was 58 mill this year. Highly doubt it goes up 13 mill even with the high BRI

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The soft cap is projected to go up to around $60 million or so, but it hasn't been set yet. That is what most of the talking heads are projecting (I think Larry Coon said this too, and he's a cap expert), a $2-3 million dollar bump. Not sure if that effects the Luxury Tax as well....

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Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN

We aint getting Porter with the 5th Pick.....I was reaching for maybe Bazz or the Greek kid.
However if we miss out on a SF in the draft we may just draft BPA.

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Next year draft will be deeeeeep at the 3 position. I rather not draft Porter with a top 3 pick.

ok so the larry bird thing makes it to where u can resign one of ur players as long as he has been with the team for 3 years even if it puts u over the cap up to a max contract, pretty cool, dont know if thats fare though.

Also why didnt the thunder use this on Harden????

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

ok so the larry bird thing makes it to where u can resign one of ur players as long as he has been with the team for 3 years even if it puts u over the cap up to a max contract, pretty cool.

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Saying this in general terms so no one blast me.
Soft cap is the normal salary cap.
There is no hard cap (see the lakers) unless you use the MLE for teams under the salary cap (it's bigger).
Luxury tax line is when teams have to start paying luxury tax. There's an apron or a threshold to reach from the soft tax to the lux tax line (something like 4 mill).

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

ok so the larry bird thing makes it to where u can resign one of ur players as long as he has been with the team for 3 years even if it puts u over the cap up to a max contract, pretty cool, dont know if thats fare though.

Also why didnt the thunder use this on Harden????

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Because of the Lux tax would have been too much to pay with 4 bear max money guys. Teams like LA can get away with it because they typically have more revenues, but with the new revenue sharing; we MAY see teams like the lakers spending less in upcoming years.

I think that's bull, there should be a set amount and u cant go over it no matter what. Players cant use steroids but other owners can bully other owners because they have ore money? Hypocracy!

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

I think that's bull, there should be a set amount and u cant go over it no matter what. Players cant use steroids but other owners can bully other owners because they have ore money? Hypocracy!

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The owners wanted a hard cap. The players don't. Hard cap is less money for the players.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

The owners wanted a hard cap. The players don't. Hard cap is less money for the players.

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Gotcha, with sports the playing level should be fare, not that u luck out and get drafted to a bigger market team. If the players have a problem they can go play somewhere else. that is so dumb IMO.

The Hard cap is what makes the NFL so great. Any team can win on any sunday because teams cannot acquire a bunch of stars like Miami or Lakers. What's hilarious is the fact that the NFL operates at a 120 million or cap paying 53 guys and the Lakers paid 12 close to 100 million. lol

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

The owners wanted a hard cap. The players don't. Hard cap is less money for the players.

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Some owners wanted a hard cap. If all the owners wanted a hard cap we would have one.

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nba/feed...ard-salary-cap

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ESPN.com offers a similar report about the owners' willingness to move off a hard cap, but player agents tell the site they question the veracity of the proposal, since the current system, in effect, acts like a hard cap.

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They agreed to it. The players didn't want it. Unless you have an inside source?

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

Some owners wanted a hard cap. If all the owners wanted a hard cap we would have one.

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If the majority of the owners wanted a hard cap then i'm sure it would have passed.
However I think the players didn't want this.
Why would they?
They lose money.

Ok new idea! :)

Trade Jimmy Butler for Eric Gordon. This free's up 14 million in cap, then sign cp3 for 18 million and dwight for 19 mil, draft oladipo or mclemore and sign for 2 million. Trade GV for a backup SF for equal salary. Resign Roberts at 725,000. This puts us at 60.25 million cap.

Cp3/Roberts
Oladipo or mclemore/Austin Rivers
Butler/(SF Trade)
Davis/Ryno
Dwight/JSmith

can u say winning?

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

Ok new idea! :)

Trade Jimmy Butler for Eric Gordon. This free's up 14 million in cap, then sign cp3 for 18 million and dwight for 19 mil, draft oladipo or mclemore and sign for 2 million. Trade GV for a backup SF for equal salary. Resign Roberts at 725,000. This puts us at 60.25 million cap.

Cp3/Roberts
Oladipo or mclemore/Austin Rivers
Butler/(SF Trade)
Davis/Ryno
Dwight/JSmith

can u say winning?

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Charlie Sheen was on alot of drugs when he said that.
Chicago would also have to be on drugs to trade Butler for Eric Gordon.

Never gonna happen.

I think the bulls would most definetly trade butler for gordon. Ive said before the bulls are an old team and i dont know how much is left in noah, boozer and deng, if they were smart they would do this trade and have a lineup of rose gordon deng boozer and noah and try to win the whole thing next year

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

Ok new idea! :)

Trade Jimmy Butler for Eric Gordon. This free's up 14 million in cap, then sign cp3 for 18 million and dwight for 19 mil, draft oladipo or mclemore and sign for 2 million. Trade GV for a backup SF for equal salary. Resign Roberts at 725,000. This puts us at 60.25 million cap.

Cp3/Roberts
Oladipo or mclemore/Austin Rivers
Butler/(SF Trade)
Davis/Ryno
Dwight/JSmith

can u say winning?

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Can't happen. When a team is over the salary cap (like the Bulls are next year) they can't accept more than 125% of the salary they send out. Minimum salary the bulls could send us for Gordon's $14.283 mill next year would be roughly $11.5 million or so. Butler only makes $1.174 mill next year. They'd have to include Hinrich, Gibson and Butler which I hope Dell would do in a heartbeat, but I seriously doubt Chicago would. If they included Noah, Boozer, Deng or Rose with Butler it would also work.

Since the Pelicans are under the cap entering the summer, they could absorb a larger contract from a team over the cap, but that's only until they spend their FA $$$. Once they reach the 58-60 mill "soft cap" all of their trades must be +/- 125% also. I'm about 98% sure that these are the rules even with the new CBA. We need 42 to get us straight

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

I think the bulls would most definetly trade butler for gordon. Ive said before the bulls are an old team and i dont know how much is left in noah, boozer and deng, if they were smart they would do this trade and have a lineup of rose gordon deng boozer and noah and try to win the whole thing next year

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1. Salaries dont match
2. They owe 73.2M in agreed salaries already for 2013/14
3. Add Gordon's salary of 14.283M....Thats 86.3M (minus Butler's salary).

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

I think the bulls would most definetly trade butler for gordon. Ive said before the bulls are an old team and i dont know how much is left in noah, boozer and deng, if they were smart they would do this trade and have a lineup of rose gordon deng boozer and noah and try to win the whole thing next year

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Deng is only 28 he an Chris are the same age

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

If we keep Lopez we have approx. 31-32 million to spend.

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You're neglecting cap holds for both the draft pick (around $3m for the 5th pick) and I'm about 90% sure minimum roster holds (struggling to find specifics, but your hypothetical leaves us 7 players short of a minimum roster, and "holds" are placed on those empty spots that eat into available cap space even though those spots aren't filled yet). There's no way we'll be able to afford CP3 and Pekovic with Gordon still on the team.

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Originally Posted by GeauxPelicans

Can't happen. When a team is over the salary cap (like the Bulls are next year) they can't accept more than 125% of the salary they send out. Minimum salary the bulls could send us for Gordon's $14.283 mill next year would be roughly $11.5 million or so. Butler only makes $1.174 mill next year. They'd have to include Hinrich, Gibson and Butler which I hope Dell would do in a heartbeat, but I seriously doubt Chicago would. If they included Noah, Boozer, Deng or Rose with Butler it would also work.

Since the Pelicans are under the cap entering the summer, they could absorb a larger contract from a team over the cap, but that's only until they spend their FA $$$. Once they reach the 58-60 mill "soft cap" all of their trades must be +/- 125% also. I'm about 98% sure that these are the rules even with the new CBA. We need 42 to get us straight

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good post.