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12-05-2020, 06:38 PM
JJackisangry

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

The number of very good sports professionals who are about as articulate as mashed potatoes is a very high one.

Lack of charisma doesn’t = lack of intelligence either. I’m not going to hold that against Jax when most athletes get away with not honing their speech skills.
12-05-2020, 06:55 PM
Pelicanidae

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJackisangry

Lack of charisma doesn’t = lack of intelligence either. I’m not going to hold that against Jax when most athletes get away with not honing their speech skills.

Yep, it's not an issue. There are lots of people who are not particularly good speakers who are very good at what they do. There are a lot of ways to be intelligent, and many of them don't show up in interviews.
12-05-2020, 07:32 PM
Eman5805

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Originally Posted by JJackisangry

Lack of charisma doesn’t = lack of intelligence either. I’m not going to hold that against Jax when most athletes get away with not honing their speech skills.

It's not that he lacks charisma. Just seems kind of...dim. Doesn't require the sharpest tool in the shed to play basketball...but it doesn't hurt. Oh well.
12-05-2020, 07:38 PM
luckyman

Jax sounds just fine talking to reporters. He doesn't sound unintelligent at all. Does he need to crack jokes? As a person that has done 100+ presentations...Wth are yall talking about?
12-05-2020, 07:38 PM
Pelicanidae

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eman5805

It's not that he lacks charisma. Just seems kind of...dim. Doesn't require the sharpest tool in the shed to play basketball...but it doesn't hurt. Oh well.

One of the great things about ex-NBA players going into the media is that you get a true, frequent insight into how utterly dim many of them are. You hear Chris Webber begin to talk about anything and your brain switches off. Spend more than 3 minutes listening to Charles Barkley attempt to discuss almost anything, and your frontal lobe melts and dribbles out of your ears. Just stunningly dim people. Yet their on-court careers speak for themselves.
12-05-2020, 07:41 PM
luckyman

I listened to that whole interview and clearly understood everything he was talking about.

Why is this board so wierdo?
12-05-2020, 07:43 PM
Eman5805

Quote:

Originally Posted by luckyman

I listened to that whole interview and clearly understood everything he was talking about.

Why is this board so wierdo?

We're not talking about the same thing. It's not his ability to speak clearly. Don't trouble yourself with my shared murmurings. It's not a big deal.
12-05-2020, 08:11 PM
luckyman

Pelicans finalized their training camp roster. Oddly enough don't see Naji Marshall's name included. The other 2-way is there.
12-05-2020, 11:23 PM
PELICANSFAN

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Originally Posted by luckyman

Pelicans finalized their training camp roster. Oddly enough don't see Naji Marshall's name included. The other 2-way is there.

If the roster is accurate, it appears NAW changed his # to 6, which must have led to Bledsoe taking #5.

https://www.nba.com/pelicans/news/pe...ng-camp-roster
12-06-2020, 01:34 AM
AusPel

Marshall never put pen to paper?

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Naji Marshall from the Xavier Musketeers has verbally agreed to a two-way contract with the New Orleans Pelicans

Verbally agreed ey? :huh2:
12-06-2020, 02:10 PM
luckyman

So I wonder what the deal with Naji is. I highly doubt our reporters even care to ask.
12-06-2020, 04:06 PM
ramsters60

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Originally Posted by luckyman

So I wonder what the deal with Naji is. I highly doubt our reporters even care to ask.

Marshall to be at practice tomorrow per Van Gundy....
12-06-2020, 05:56 PM
luckyman

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Originally Posted by ramsters60

Marshall to be at practice tomorrow per Van Gundy....

Cool and the other NBL 2-way still in Australia.

The beginning of the season gonna be sloppy.

otoh..Memphis will start regular season without JJJ and Winslow. Dallas will start without Porzingis.
12-06-2020, 10:02 PM
msusousaphone

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12-06-2020, 10:14 PM
AusPel

Video:

FIRST LOOK

The Pelicans first full team practice.

New head coach Stan Van Gundy and new players Kira Lewis Jr. and Steven Adams as well as Zion and BI. pic.twitter.com/0cFS9zlpOH
— Fletcher Mackel (@FletcherWDSU) December 6, 2020

Kira's handle = :jumper:
12-08-2020, 06:00 AM
AusPel

https://i.redd.it/pu78nls51v361.jpg

Lol I thought this was serious at first
12-08-2020, 10:35 AM
Pelicanidae

Tilman Ferttita is broke though, as NBA owners go.
12-08-2020, 10:51 AM
luckyman

And OKC's arena sponsor is bankrupt. Good old Smoothie King still expanding. :hihi:
12-08-2020, 11:17 AM
luckyman

Finally

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The New Orleans Pelicans announced today that the team has signed free agent Naji Marshall to a two-way contract. Per team policy, terms of the deal were not disclosed.
12-13-2020, 10:50 AM
AusPel

Poku's release is super quick

Let's hope OKC are a lot better than advertised. We don't want them getting Cade
12-13-2020, 02:46 PM
Paul Overt

Facundo Campazzo debuted against the Warriors

https://twitter.com/nuggets/status/1...087784962?s=20

https://twitter.com/nuggets/status/1...044837376?s=20
12-13-2020, 02:50 PM
AusPel

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Originally Posted by Paul Overt

Facundo Campazzo debuted against the Warriors

https://twitter.com/nuggets/status/1...087784962?s=20

https://twitter.com/nuggets/status/1...044837376?s=20

cool
12-13-2020, 11:48 PM
AusPel

So Luka got fat as hell real quick

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ej7NgVRWkAAYZSY.jpg

https://preview.redd.it/yhog7q9wy156...=webp&a9a75d47

This is not photoshopped

This fat ****** ain't winning MVP
12-14-2020, 12:06 AM
Pelicanidae

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Originally Posted by AusPel

So Luka got fat as hell real quick

This is not photoshopped

This fat ****** ain't winning MVP

Luka's about to drop 40 point triple doubles on half the league even if he has put on some weight, and it's going to be hilarious. Like when fat Jokic was ripping everyone up and nobody could believe it.
12-14-2020, 09:06 AM
PELICANSFAN

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Originally Posted by AusPel

So Luka got fat as hell real quick

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ej7NgVRWkAAYZSY.jpg

https://preview.redd.it/yhog7q9wy156...=webp&a9a75d47

This is not photoshopped

This fat ****** ain't winning MVP

Even if not photoshopped, that picture is a few years old. 5 Miles stopped being the Mavericks jersey sponsor after the 18-19 season.
12-14-2020, 11:44 AM
hornetzplaya

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Even if not photoshopped, that picture is a few years old. 5 Miles stopped being the Mavericks jersey sponsor after the 18-19 season.

Yeah I thought chime was their sponsor now.
12-15-2020, 12:42 PM
Butters

Well the Greek Freak just signed his extension.
12-15-2020, 12:45 PM
Taker597

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Originally Posted by Butters

Well the Greek Freak just signed his extension.

That’s honestly a good thing, right? Super Max cripple teams long term unless you have Golden State Money to pay the tax.
12-15-2020, 01:13 PM
6warddude

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Originally Posted by Taker597

That’s honestly a good thing, right? Super Max cripple teams long term unless you have Golden State Money to pay the tax.

take it a step further...could entice zion to sign long term with our small market team.....plus giannis has a opt out in 4 years and thats when our picks kick in if im not mistaken...
12-15-2020, 01:25 PM
luckyman

As much as I wanted to root for Milwaukee. I physically can't since the trade. Bummed.
12-15-2020, 01:47 PM
Taker597

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Originally Posted by luckyman

As much as I wanted to root for Milwaukee. I physically can't since the trade. Bummed.

You can... Their picks don't matter till 2025 lol
12-15-2020, 01:56 PM
AusPel

This is fine
12-15-2020, 02:11 PM
DroopyDawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butters

Well the Greek Freak just signed his extension.

And he'll still request a trade next year.
12-15-2020, 05:19 PM
Taker597

I hate and love the SuperMax. They need to make where small market team can actually benefit from it instead of being in cap hell up against the cap.

Large Market can just tank. Build a young cheap core. Get a superteam at a FA "Discount" Max.
12-15-2020, 06:05 PM
johnpagenola

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Originally Posted by Taker597

I hate and love the SuperMax. They need to make where small market team can actually benefit from it instead of being in cap hell up against the cap.

Large Market can just tank. Build a young cheap core. Get a superteam at a FA "Discount" Max.

So suppose the Pelicans give Zion a SuperMax and we need to go into the luxury tax to win a championship. Is there a way to win enough/sell enough gear/etc. to pay for the extra salaries and the luxury tax?
12-15-2020, 06:27 PM
Taker597

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Originally Posted by johnpagenola

So suppose the Pelicans give Zion a SuperMax and we need to go into the luxury tax to win a championship. Is there a way to win enough/sell enough gear/etc. to pay for the extra salaries and the luxury tax?

Considering the Pelicans lives off of revenue sharing. I believe we run at an Operation Deficit for the past few years.

Only make around 200 million in revenue.
12-15-2020, 06:29 PM
TxAggie713

Correct
12-15-2020, 07:52 PM
luckyman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taker597

Considering the Pelicans lives off of revenue sharing. I believe we run at an Operation Deficit for the past few years.

Only make around 200 million in revenue.

That's not true since Tom and Gayle took over. The previous ownership was deep in debt yes.

Outside of Cali and NY teams, the entire league pulls in around 220mm - 300mm in revenue.

All teams had an operating profit except OKC pre-covid. Pelicans had higher gate receipts than Memphis, Charlotte, Atlanta, and Indiana. About the same as Phoenix. Debt to EV of around 13% which is middle of the pack.
12-15-2020, 08:27 PM
Taker597

Quote:

Originally Posted by luckyman

That's not true since Tom and Gayle took over. The previous ownership was deep in debt yes.

Outside of Cali and NY teams, the entire league pulls in around 220mm - 300mm in revenue.

All teams had an operating profit except OKC pre-covid. Pelicans had higher gate receipts than Memphis, Charlotte, Atlanta, and Indiana. About the same as Phoenix. Debt to EV of around 13% which is middle of the pack.

https://www.sbnation.com/2017/9/19/1...ts-why-matters

And we are bottom of the league in revenue.
12-16-2020, 12:25 AM
glepurple

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Originally Posted by Taker597

https://www.sbnation.com/2017/9/19/1...ts-why-matters

And we are bottom of the league in revenue.

That could be true, but that article is 3 years old. I doubt the pels remain that way once fans are let back in the arena.
12-16-2020, 07:07 AM
luckyman

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Originally Posted by glepurple

That could be true, but that article is 3 years old. I doubt the pels remain that way once fans are let back in the arena.

Yes the latest audit from Forbes show Pelicans now 29th in value.

And revenue only mean as much as your costs. Hence a couple teams have higher revenue, but are in the red.
12-16-2020, 09:06 AM
Taker597

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Originally Posted by glepurple

That could be true, but that article is 3 years old. I doubt the pels remain that way once fans are let back in the arena.

But we weren't even a tax team and we was losing money. That's the point I'm trying to make.
12-16-2020, 09:18 AM
luckyman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taker597

But we weren't even a tax team and we was losing money. That's the point I'm trying to make.

You're going to have to show when this was ever the case.

The point is, New Orleans isn't some outlier franchise. If they are losing money, then likely at least 2/3 of the entire league is losing money.
12-16-2020, 09:58 AM
13 - 3

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taker597

https://www.sbnation.com/2017/9/19/1...ts-why-matters

And we are bottom of the league in revenue.

Before Zion and Ingram?
12-16-2020, 09:59 AM
13 - 3

Quote:

Originally Posted by luckyman

As much as I wanted to root for Milwaukee. I physically can't since the trade. Bummed.

You should love this . Keeps him out of California for awhile.
12-16-2020, 10:08 AM
13 - 3

LeBron James shares his reaction to Giannis' historic deal: "My situation and his situation, there's no similarities in it. It's totally different." pic.twitter.com/jQBJa09nHE
— Ryan Ward (@RyanWardLA) December 15, 2020
12-16-2020, 12:04 PM
Taker597

Quote:

Originally Posted by luckyman

You're going to have to show when this was ever the case.

The point is, New Orleans isn't some outlier franchise. If they are losing money, then likely at least 2/3 of the entire league is losing money.

We would be dead in the waters if not for revenue sharing
12-16-2020, 12:11 PM
PELICANSFAN

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taker597

We would be dead in the waters if not for revenue sharing

As would any team not in a large market.
12-16-2020, 12:11 PM
AusPel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taker597

I hate and love the SuperMax. They need to make where small market team can actually benefit from it instead of being in cap hell up against the cap.

Large Market can just tank. Build a young cheap core. Get a superteam at a FA "Discount" Max.

Definitely need to have a franchise tag or something to really differentiate and assist teams giving out the Supermax
12-16-2020, 01:41 PM
13 - 3

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taker597

We would be dead in the waters if not for revenue sharing

Hopefully we get better attendance when this COVID thing ends.

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