Who should become the first person to be drafted to the pelicans?

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Originally Posted by iNolaNightmare

And this is where I disagree. I think Rivers can be a franchise player and game changer

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I don't know what in the world you've seen to give you that opinion. He's improved, yes but that's quite a statement.

As for your other comment, I agree with Inner GI. I'm in the school of thought that you draft the BPA in the NBA regardless of position and figure it out later. Rivers is certainly not anything worth banking on hard enough to pass on a guy that I have very high in Burke. In your train of thought, do you pass on Smart and McLemore because we have Gordon on contract?

Now if we get Oladipo/Porter/McLemore I will certainly not be crying. ;)

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

Yea, I was probably the main spreader of that information. :idoh:

42 posted something with links to sources that confirms Gordon is eligible to be traded to any team, without veto, after the 1st year of the deal.

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Yep, July he's good to be traded to anyone without any say in it.

Porter has also shown an NBA level of cageyness. When he drove for that slick reverse layup, midway through he pass faked to the corner which completely froze the defender who might've come helped cut him off. That's a point guard move. That's something Rondo or CP3 would do in the middle of a drive.

I enjoyed the play where he came out of nowhere and dunked off that rebound. Nobody was boxing out, or following the ball and he just flew right in.

He has good instincts, and his comparisons to Aminu couldn't be more wrong.

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

I don't know what in the world you've seen to give you that opinion. He's improved, yes but that's quite a statement.

As for your other comment, I agree with Inner GI. I'm in the school of thought that you draft the BPA in the NBA regardless of position and figure it out later. Rivers is certainly not anything worth banking on hard enough to pass on a guy that I have very high in Burke. In your train of thought, do you pass on Smart and McLemore because we have Gordon on contract?

Now if we get Oladipo/Porter/McLemore I will certainly not be crying. ;)

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If I would have told you in 2010 that Jason Smith could one day be an outstanding sixth man, you'd probably call me silly. Rivers is an incredibly hard worker and has all the talent to be a game changer. A starter. And by franchise player, I mean a part of a big 3 of some sort composed of him, Davis, and ..?

That's the shrooms talking man.

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Originally Posted by iNolaNightmare

If I would have told you in 2010 that Jason Smith could one day be an outstanding sixth man, you'd probably call me silly. Rivers is an incredibly hard worker and has all the talent to be a game changer. A starter. And by franchise player, I mean a part of a big 3 of some sort composed of him, Davis, and ..?

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I agree. Idk why fools *yes fools* jump to conclusion for any player from the rookie season. Does Billups, Ellis, and Crawford ring a bell? Just let this kid grow and stop judging so quickly.

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Originally Posted by Silverfoxx

I agree. Idk why fools *yes fools* jump to conclusion for any player from the rookie season. Does Billups, Ellis, and Crawford ring a bell? Just let this kid grow and stop judging so quickly.

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No one is jumping to conclusions. None of those players listed are Franchise changers.

Austin Rivers has real potential as a 6th or 7th man off the bench. He may start for some teams down to road like most backups do (i.e vasquez), but I don't see him, Davis, and someone else being a big 3 on the Boston level. Davis is the only player on this roster that could be considered a franchise piece.

Agree to disagree.

Any ways, I want Oladipo or Porter. I don't have a close third.

For those of you curious about Shabazz's game, this vid is a great watch. It shows a lot of the good, but along with some of the bad in his game (stiffness, lack of overall athletic high flying abilty):



He does have some guts, doesn't mind taking the big shot (as is seen at the end of the vid).

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Originally Posted by iNolaNightmare

Agree to disagree.

Any ways, I want Oladipo or Porter. I don't have a close third.

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same here

re: InnerGI (whom I normally agree with BTW)

I disagree- to an extent. These guys are so young they can grow almost exponentially. He has looked like a disaster at times, but also a lot of improvement. I know others feel the same that he can get better because he has shown it. He also (from the common perspective) has a drive like nobody else. Let's look at it this way- His defense. Still far from elite, but he was supposed to be weak at defense. Look how incredibly far that has come. I think his offense can make similar jumps in the next 2-3 years. He's also a much better passer than any of us gave him credit for. He has instinct. I think he is still timid, but I see the potential. He definitely has vision- how much, I'm not sure, but he has something that I didn't think he had as far as that aspect. Now, will any of this potential pan out and how much? Nobody knows. But I have confidence. I think he at least has the potential to be a top 7 or better PG. I know that sounds crazy, but I see that type of potential. Rose-colored glasses perhaps. It's going to take time and he may never reach that. But if he were a stock, he'd be a great buy right now in my opinion. I wouldn't pass over the PG's in the draft if I really bought into them, but I think he has that potential. We're going to need a good three guard rotation anyway.

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Originally Posted by iNolaNightmare

Agree to disagree.

Any ways, I want Oladipo or Porter. I don't have a close third.

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Marcus Smart?

Maybe. I like Smart, haven't seem enough of him yet, unfortunately.

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

For those of you curious about Shabazz's game, this vid is a great watch. It shows a lot of the good, but along with some of the bad in his game (stiffness, lack of overall athletic high flying abilty):



He does have some guts, doesn't mind taking the big shot (as is seen at the end of the vid).

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Looks a lot like Wilson chandler but with a post game

If we took Shabazz, would you play him at the 2 or 3?

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Originally Posted by donato

If we took Shabazz, would you play him at the 2 or 3?

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3. If we want a 2 I think Oladipo, Mclemore and Smart are the guys to be had.

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Originally Posted by donato

If we took Shabazz, would you play him at the 2 or 3?

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We would play him at the 3 unless we traded gordon for a SF

If we traded gordon for derozan and big v we could put shabazz at the 2 and derozan at the 3

Would anyone be against trading gordon for parsons and asik and drafting smart or oladipo, the rockets want gordon.
GV rivers
Smart or oladipo mason
Parsons aminu
Davis ryno
Asik lopez

Or what about gordon and lopez for Batum and Meyers Leonard and draft smart or oladipo

Or gordon for Derek Williams and saved and sign pek and draft BPA

Or gordon for Harrison Barnes and fetus Ezeli then draft smart or oladipo

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

Or what about gordon and lopez for Batum and Meyers Leonard and draft smart or oladipo

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Why would Portland do that? I would trade Gordon and Lopez yesterday for Batum, much less Leonard. That just doesn't make any sense.

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Originally Posted by donato

Why would Portland do that? I would trade Gordon and Lopez yesterday for Batum, much less Leonard. That just doesn't make any sense.

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Batum is just a shooter and defender, he can't create for himself, lillard and gordon would be deadly, I wouldn't trade gordon for Batum straight up, gordon is better

Lillard gordon and Aldridge would be insane