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Originally Posted by lawless522

If memory serves, you were responding to a comment about Sharpe coming in for a visit and said we should be happy because is was going to be a big week. However, you also said that you promised secrecy on the subject, so you couldn't elaborate. After reading that Sharpe didn't visit with us, I was wondering if you could clarify how well the week actually went. That's all. Wasn't running with anything.

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He was super cryptic in that post

Turns out it wasn't that much removed from hot air

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Originally Posted by AusPel

He was super cryptic in that post

Turns out it wasn't that much removed from hot air

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Wow. All the stuff I have gave and now you overthought something and I am hot air now. You have become one of them. Noted. So disappointing.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Wow. All the stuff I have gave and now you overthought something and I am hot air now. You have become one of them. Noted. So disappointing.

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You said it was gonna be 'a big week'

Pels Brass interviewing a couple other candidates probably wouldn't be viewed as 'a big week' by the garden variety fan

It's something of note, but not really 'big'

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Originally Posted by AusPel

You said it was gonna be 'a big week'

Pels Brass interviewing a couple other candidates probably wouldn't be viewed as 'a big week' by the garden variety fan

It's something of note, but not really 'big'

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I think Mac was referring to the week of the draft which is next week. Correct me if I misinterpreted what you said MM.

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Originally Posted by DaFranchise80

I think Mac was referring to the week of the draft which is next week. Correct me if I misinterpreted what you said MM.

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He definitely intimated last week was gonna be a big week

Not draft week

Oh my god - one dude said X player was visiting and was excited. I said "You dont know the half of it! Big week"

They had booked many visits and some big ones with multiple guys against each other, which those guys didnt agree to do before then. Because they WANT to be in NOLA. It was/is a BIG time for the team, as they are getting all the info to make a huge decision. Again, info some others arent getting because they arent being granted workouts or medicals, etc.

I wont say anything again. If you guys just think everything means TRADE! then I promise to never say anything again. Sorry!!!!

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Oh my god - one dude said X player was visiting and was excited. I said "You dont know the half of it! Big week"

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Can you not see how ambiguous that statement is?

Other adjectives are vague, cryptic

Deceptive even comes to mind. But I don't for a second think you are being actively deceptive

Mac, I do really value your analysis and insider info

I don't mean to be offensive or anything like that

The 'outcry' by the cryptic post by Mcnamara has brought me out my lurking and has been a long time since I have posted here.

All insiders are cryptic - those who have been here a while will remember Harvey Hornet.

In terms of what news can be in the current moment it is either:

A) a trade - this was going to come out very quickly if so and not in a week (and based on timing extremely unlikely)
B) As Mac mentioned expanding who we are scouting, visiting, working out, interviewing, etc - this is news for a variety of reasons

So it had to be B

1) Players are seeing New Orleans as a destination to want to find a way to get to (More importantly agents)
2) This could also mean the team is seriously looking at moving up or moving down on the day

Appreciate the news from a distance and get a lot out of knowing a bit more - so keep it up

"You dont know the half of it! Big week"

Apparently this is the most un-ambiguous statement ever created.

If you question the meaning of this, you are a dumb stupid head with an IQ of 49

Supposedly Jake Madison said Sharpe cancelled his workout with us LMAO

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Originally Posted by Silverfoxx

Supposedly Jake Madison said Sharpe cancelled his workout with us LMAO

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Jake Madison is everything wrong with the Old Pels

Please never mention him here again

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Originally Posted by AusPel

"You dont know the half of it! Big week"

Apparently this is the most un-ambiguous statement ever created.

If you question the meaning of this, you are a dumb stupid head with an IQ of 49

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If several top prospects are making it known they want to be interviewed/worked out/visit New Orleans, that is a big week. The top draft picks are all represented by top agents and if the narrative around agents and New Orleans has changed, what does this mean for free agency going forward? future trade requests (will we make lists when players want out)? positive leaks (instead of our constant current negative leaks about the team). As well as it what it might mean for what the team may do on draft day if they absolutely fell in love with someone.

I would consider the above a big week, considering we are also two weeks out from a draft when said, I am not sure what more we could of expected

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Originally Posted by RyinNewZealand

If several top prospects are making it known they want to be interviewed/worked out/visit New Orleans, that is a big week. The top draft picks are all represented by top agents and if the narrative around agents and New Orleans has changed, what does this mean for free agency going forward? future trade requests (will we make lists when players want out)? positive leaks (instead of our constant current negative leaks about the team). As well as it what it might mean for what the team may do on draft day if they absolutely fell in love with someone.

I would consider the above a big week, considering we are also two weeks out from a draft when said, I am not sure what more we could of expected

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No doubt it's a huge week, but everyone was left completely dangling

Great, now I feel like I've been a dick but I haven't

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Originally Posted by AusPel

Great, now I feel like I've been a dick but I haven't

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Don't feel that, I know what it is like to get expectations up - I just wanted to try and show you a different side of why this is a big week considering the timing of the statement.

If Mac said that same sentence today about next week being a big week, I would be equally disappointed

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Originally Posted by RyinNewZealand

Don't feel that, I know what it is like to get expectations up - I just wanted to try and show you a different side of why this is a big week considering the timing of the statement.

If Mac said that same sentence today about next week being a big week, I would be equally disappointed

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It's cool having another New Zealander on this board

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Originally Posted by AusPel

Great, now I feel like I've been a dick but I haven't

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I wouldnt go that far but you did say what I said was hot air. Also frustrated with me because YOU implied it was something it is not.

If you were in the Pels FO and got the news they got last week, you would have been pumped. But seemingly, all that excites you is trades, so when someone says what I said, YOU think trade. That aint my fault. Especially when I said like 4 posts later it wasnt trade. But whatever, its in the past. I legit wont say things again as opposed to giving hints (as I was told specifically not to share some specifics). That I take and is on me. We all learn.

Lets stop with all the drama of the last week or so

Mathurin or Daniels. As always.

Six more days.

Agree, let's focus on the draft. I agree Mathurin or Daniels, with a longshot shot of Sochan

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Lets stop with all the drama of the last week or so

Mathurin or Daniels. As always.

Six more days.

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Super excited. I hope Daniels falls. Can't believe it's less than a week away. Portland being such a chaotic pick makes this suspenseful.

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Originally Posted by AusPel

You said it was gonna be 'a big week'

Pels Brass interviewing a couple other candidates probably wouldn't be viewed as 'a big week' by the garden variety fan

It's something of note, but not really 'big'

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The week just started lol

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Originally Posted by DaFranchise80

I think Mac was referring to the week of the draft which is next week. Correct me if I misinterpreted what you said MM.

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Same thing I read it as... draft week.

To be fair, I never thought Mac was referencing a potential trade. I thought it had something to do with the Pels meeting with Sharpe and his camp. No secret Mac thinks Sharpe is a top 3 talent and likely the only player in the top 5 who's attainable. I thought maybe Sharpe's camp was making it clear that he'd like to play here.

Certainly, wasn't looking to call Mac out. Just wanted to know how Sharpe's cancellation affected things. Sounds like there's no chance we get Sharpe, so moving on.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Lets stop with all the drama of the last week or so

Mathurin or Daniels. As always.

Six more days.

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I'm cool with that. I hope Mathurin is available at 8 but Daniels would be a solid pick.

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Originally Posted by AusPel

Jake Madison is everything wrong with the Old Pels

Please never mention him here again

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I actually respect this LMAO.

Believing people on message boards are insiders is akin to believing professional wrestling is real. You don’t have to believe (I don’t) that MM actually has all the knowledge/info/relationships of an NBA Insider to be entertained/informed by his posts. You could listen to multiple podcasts daily, have a well curated NBA twitter feed, and scan Reddit, and come to the same conclusions/conjecture. Or you can just follow MMs posts and save the time because he did the work for you.

Probably don't mean much but Sochan liked a tweet from his Burner account saying he wants to be a Pelican and was spotted today with the FO so MM message right now is perfect timing regarding players wanting to be here. Only wish I knew who was all battling it out now but I won't be greedy lol.

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Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP

Believing people on message boards are insiders is akin to believing professional wrestling is real. You don’t have to believe (I don’t) that MM actually has all the knowledge/info/relationships of an NBA Insider to be entertained/informed by his posts. You could listen to multiple podcasts daily, have a well curated NBA twitter feed, and scan Reddit, and come to the same conclusions/conjecture. Or you can just follow MMs posts and save the time because he did the work for you.

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Wrestling is real idiot. It's real to me dammit!

Hmm �� so apparently it was Griffin, Hardy, Sochan so far what I gathered. My detective work continues!!!

I?m thinking mathurin is going to be the one. I?m not buying the ?nobody likes sharpe? in the top 7 thing.

Sochan is the one prospect I've really hoped they don't draft. I think FV is good at his job, but dude isn't a miracle worker, and Sochan can't shoot at all. I don't even see potential there. How good do we think he can be defensively? Is he going to be better than Herb?

Maybe if we trade down and there's other assets/players things involved... but straight up I don't see the appeal to drafting this dude. He's certainly not someone I would target. More of a settle for kind of guy IMO.

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Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP

Sochan is the one prospect I've really hoped they don't draft. I think FV is good at his job, but dude isn't a miracle worker, and Sochan can't shoot at all. I don't even see potential there. How good do we think he can be defensively? Is he going to be better than Herb?

Maybe if we trade down and there's other assets/players things involved... but straight up I don't see the appeal to drafting this dude. He's certainly not someone I would target. More of a settle for kind of guy IMO.

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Most players take years before they become an adequate defender. Herb for example is 23.

Sochan is an incredible defender at only 18-19 years old. His defense is incredible for his age and will only get better.

Sochan moves incredibly well laterally and can guard 1-5. VERY curious about his potential as a small ball 5.

His shot needs work definitely. But it's not unfixable, he shot 35% from 3 until about half way through the year. If he can shoot 35% in the NBA and lives up to his defensive potential he'd be an ALL-STAR imo.

That 35% is an incredibly selective and small sample size based on a relatively low number of attempts. I’ve watched dude shoot, and I don’t see any real potential to turn him into a 35% 3pt shooter in the NBA.

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Originally Posted by PleaseWinPels

Most players take years before they become an adequate defender. Herb for example is 23.

Sochan is an incredible defender at only 18-19 years old. His defense is incredible for his age and will only get better.

Sochan moves incredibly well laterally and can guard 1-5. VERY curious about his potential as a small ball 5.

His shot needs work definitely. But it's not unfixable, he shot 35% from 3 until about half way through the year. If he can shoot 35% in the NBA and lives up to his defensive potential he'd be an ALL-STAR imo.

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If Pels don't think Sochan can play small ball 5 AND eventually shoot at least 34% from 3-pt line on C&S 3s...they should NOT consider drafting him.

Herb shot under 34% from 3. He shot 30% post ASB.

Not a guy we want? Wouldn’t take another, bigger Herb?

Weighing that one little percentage so much is crazy to me. Especially for a guy who would be a lower volume guy.

The fact that there is a run on not wanting Sharpe on here, just makes me want to have the Pels draft him more. You guys are awesome in your reasoning but this board as whole has a bad history of overhyping the wrong players around draft time. Not a bad thing. It?s majority luck anyway with the NBA but you know? Pels Life


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I’d love to see the Pels take Sharpe, but I gotta think that him cancelling his visit means…unless we trade up…he knows he’ll be gone by the time we pick.

Having said that, maybe there’s an Insider around here who has a better explanation as to why the cancellation could mean good news for the Pels chances of drafting Sharpe.

Maybe he cancelled because he knows the Pels aren’t really interested. Or at least the guy up top definitely isn’t. Maybe that guy wanted to see him in a specific setting and other teams didn’t request that so the guy declined on second thought

Just a maybe ;)

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Herb shot under 34% from 3. He shot 30% post ASB.

Not a guy we want? Wouldn’t take another, bigger Herb?

Weighing that one little percentage so much is crazy to me. Especially for a guy who would be a lower volume guy.

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I actually hope the Pels take Sochan...& you need to dig a bit deeper on Herb's % on shooting from 3-pt distance for the year. (And notice how I phrased that in order to get a true reading on how Herb shot from 3-pt distance this year...a strange year for Herb, from 3-pt distance.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Maybe he cancelled because he knows the Pels aren’t really interested. Or at least the guy up top definitely isn’t. Maybe that guy wanted to see him in a specific setting and other teams didn’t request that so the guy declined on second thought

Just a maybe ;)

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Man, thanks for the insight. But, if that’s the case, don’t you think Griff needs to be a better poker player if Sharpe’s camp has enough intel to believe a trip to NOLA would be a waste of time? Griff can’t keep his tongue in check long enough to meet with the kid face to face?

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Maybe he cancelled because he knows the Pels aren?t really interested. Or at least the guy up top definitely isn?t. Maybe that guy wanted to see him in a specific setting and other teams didn?t request that so the guy declined on second thought

Just a maybe ;)

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An interview with Sharpe was always going to be way more important than watching him workout.

There is a team directly in front of the Pels that is very interested in trading down. Pels are being very intentional about what’s known publicly and what’s being put out there about who they wouldn’t and would draft to avoid someone jumping in front of them to take the player they want.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Maybe he cancelled because he knows the Pels aren’t really interested. Or at least the guy up top definitely isn’t. Maybe that guy wanted to see him in a specific setting and other teams didn’t request that so the guy declined on second thought

Just a maybe ;)

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Hard pass on the kid who declines the interview, I could care less the setting.

Something just not right with Sharpe. Red flags all over the place.

I’ve come back around on AJ Griffin. He’s a better prospect than Tyler Herro was coming out and we still need another elite level 3pt shooter. Assuming there isn’t a medical red flag, I’d be thrilled with AJ as the pick.

Big week! (behind the scenes, with teams having final meetings with players and finalizing player rankings and preparing for different draft-day scenarios). That seems to be the intended, implied meaning, based on the context.

But AusPel, I could see how you would get excited about that. Glad we all learned not to assume or jump to conclusions, and even to ask more directly if exact clarification is needed, within reason.

As a sign of your evolution, AusPel please change your profile pic / avatar! :hihi: O.G. Jameer Nelson gonna copyright this board for posting in his likeness :p

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Originally Posted by Silverfoxx

Probably don't mean much but Sochan liked a tweet from his Burner account saying he wants to be a Pelican and was spotted today with the FO so MM message right now is perfect timing regarding players wanting to be here. Only wish I knew who was all battling it out now but I won't be greedy lol.

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Is this a real thing? Lol, you have a link? How did they know it's his burner account?

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Maybe he cancelled because he knows the Pels aren’t really interested. Or at least the guy up top definitely isn’t. Maybe that guy wanted to see him in a specific setting and other teams didn’t request that so the guy declined on second thought

Just a maybe ;)

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Originally Posted by PleaseWinPels

Hard pass on the kid who declines the interview, I could care less the setting.

Something just not right with Sharpe. Red flags all over the place.

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It's 'couldnt care less'

And again, MANY players have snubbed workouts, declined to give medical info, etc. Many. And many who turned out to be good players. Good people. If he had worked out for us and was dying to go to us and passed up interviews with Indy and Portland, would they be red flags or would we love the kid because he is trying to get himself to drop to us?

People should never forget it's smokescreen season and if something goes out it's for serving an agenda.

Prospecst usually avoid teams work-outs in their lower range mostly because they assume that at their pick they will have no doubt to select them and they are afraid that such work-outs will get the word out that they're slipping so some teams will try to trade down instead of taking them at their current spot (so lesser salary for them in their first contract).

Teams in the mean time are angling to get easily the prospect they covet so they tend to leak story about how the prospect underperfom in some interview or drill.

There's nothing less reliable than info coming in the week before the draft, better be patient.

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Originally Posted by AusPel

Great, now I feel like I've been a dick but I haven't

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Maybe you didn't mean to be, but.....
You turned your impressions and hopes into an attack because you did not receive the info you wanted or in a timely manner.
This is all fun and speculation no matter your name on this board.
You want answers then watch Thursday.