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06-27-2021, 10:23 PM
PELICANSFAN

Honestly, if Dame is going to force his way out of Portland because he wants to win a title now, why is he going to force his way to the Pels or OKC?
06-27-2021, 10:23 PM
PELICANSFAN

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Originally Posted by Fedupfan

New Orleans Pelicans are willing to part ways with Brandon Ingram in hopes of getting Damian Lillard, I’m told.

Pels are also willing to part ways with multiple first round picks that they acquired in the Anthony Davis and Jrue Holiday deals. pic.twitter.com/WJnt530qWu
— �� Brandon “Scoop B” Robinson �� (@ScoopB) June 28, 2021

Scoop is a hack and not a source.
06-27-2021, 10:41 PM
Eman5805

Quote:

Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Honestly, if Dame is going to force his way out of Portland because he wants to win a title now, why is he going to force his way to the Pels or OKC?

We have this huge war chest. If Lillard comes available...and we can't trade for him because he doesn't want to come here....

Then our war chest is utterly useless and we'll never do anything meaningful with it. Not like the next guy on Lillard's level will speak highly of us and can't wait to come here unless we start winning and show sustainability and competence BEFORE we get another real player added to the mix.

Why else do we even have all these assets if this situation is not what it's for?

Get Lillard. Make everything going forward about winning him over by winning. Put a damn good team around him and Zion. Build a team that's switchable. Build a team that can defend in spite of Zion and Dame being below average to bad defenders. Getting Covington to come over in the trade is step in that direction.

Hell, figure out some way to make two blockbuster moves this offseason somehow. Dame and someone else we gamble on if there's some way to make a bad contract fit.
06-27-2021, 10:55 PM
PELICANSFAN

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eman5805

We have this huge war chest. If Lillard comes available...and we can't trade for him because he doesn't want to come here....

Then our war chest is utterly useless and we'll never do anything meaningful with it. Not like the next guy on Lillard's level will speak highly of us and can't wait to come here unless we start winning and show sustainability and competence BEFORE we get another real player added to the mix.

Why else do we even have all these assets if this situation is not what it's for?

Get Lillard. Make everything going forward about winning him over by winning. Put a damn good team around him and Zion. Build a team that's switchable. Build a team that can defend in spite of Zion and Dame being below average to bad defenders. Getting Covington to come over in the trade is step in that direction.

Hell, figure out some way to make two blockbuster moves this offseason somehow. Dame and someone else we gamble on if there's some way to make a bad contract fit.

If he does not want to come to NOLA, our war chest is irrelevant. The stars force themselves to a select group of teams. I highly doubt Dame wants to come to NOLA.
06-27-2021, 11:08 PM
Eman5805

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

If he does not want to come to NOLA, our war chest is irrelevant. The stars force themselves to a select group of teams. I highly doubt Dame wants to come to NOLA.

Then it is all pointless, and always would be pointless. So...trade for his ****** anyway. Why not? What else we gonna do with the assets? Hoard them? Trade for reclamation projects past their prime, nursing injuries, and/or bloated contracts for overachievers?

We have nothing to lose. What, wait for a big star who likes us? They'll never like us until they have no choice but to do the thing humans do and adapt...so why bother with their bellyaching and force Portland to take a huge offer they can't refuse? They make the trade. No one will blame them for taking the trade from the outside except Dame and his people, assuming that's how he plays it.

Worst case scenario is he refuses to report. I'm sure that'll cost him millions though.

Most likely is he complains. He adapts. Zion is awesome and the best teammate he's ever played with. Not hard to build a team around the guy who can score from anywhere and the guy who is unstoppable from one place and is a brick wall on the pick and roll waiting to happen. Get shooters. Get dudes who can switch. Hope we keep one of Hayes, NAW, Lonzo/Ingram.

If it fails, whatever. I'd rather fail with Lillard than fail without him. It'll give us super exciting games along the way.
06-28-2021, 03:44 AM
KoMikaera

fair enough.
06-28-2021, 09:46 AM
PELICANSFAN

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eman5805

Then it is all pointless, and always would be pointless. So...trade for his ****** anyway. Why not? What else we gonna do with the assets? Hoard them? Trade for reclamation projects past their prime, nursing injuries, and/or bloated contracts for overachievers?

We have nothing to lose. What, wait for a big star who likes us? They'll never like us until they have no choice but to do the thing humans do and adapt...so why bother with their bellyaching and force Portland to take a huge offer they can't refuse? They make the trade. No one will blame them for taking the trade from the outside except Dame and his people, assuming that's how he plays it.

Worst case scenario is he refuses to report. I'm sure that'll cost him millions though.

Most likely is he complains. He adapts. Zion is awesome and the best teammate he's ever played with. Not hard to build a team around the guy who can score from anywhere and the guy who is unstoppable from one place and is a brick wall on the pick and roll waiting to happen. Get shooters. Get dudes who can switch. Hope we keep one of Hayes, NAW, Lonzo/Ingram.

If it fails, whatever. I'd rather fail with Lillard than fail without him. It'll give us super exciting games along the way.

So trade a boatload of assets for a guy who does not want to be here? What will he do to the locker room and Zion? Then when he forces his way out of NOLA, what does Zion do? We need to be somewhat realistic.
06-28-2021, 12:06 PM
Eman5805

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

So trade a boatload of assets for a guy who does not want to be here? What will he do to the locker room and Zion? Then when he forces his way out of NOLA, what does Zion do? We need to be somewhat realistic.

Being realistic is examining all factors at play and all the objective truths. A lot of us, myself included, are assuming everything. We assume Lillard won't want to come here. You assume he'll corrupt Zion to wanting to leave. Will they both just phone it in on the court? Two elite guys...won't even try to make the best of it? Why are we assuming they don't have some professional integrity? It's not like we're doing wrong by Lillard. We want to build a winning franchise. Flipping a ton of assets is proof of that to him.

So we also assume he won't care? Is that how humans are? No way we could win him over?

I don't accept that. I can't....

I do accept that Griffin could screw it all up somehow though.
06-28-2021, 12:22 PM
JJackisangry

Quote:

Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Scoop is a hack and not a source.

Yep. As for me, Dame is not good enough on both sides of the ball for me to move BI (and move him for a 30 year old at that) to try and win a title with a guy in his 3rd year. For all of Zion’s strengths, he still has a very long way to go before I’d be comfortable taking this gamble.
06-28-2021, 12:39 PM
Eman5805

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJackisangry

Yep. As for me, Dame is not good enough on both sides of the ball for me to move BI (and move him for a 30 year old at that) to try and win a title with a guy in his 3rd year. For all of Zion’s strengths, he still has a very long way to go before I’d be comfortable taking this gamble.

His offense isn't good enough? Defense, okay. But how many players in the league can you honestly say have a better offense than him? Curry? Durant?
06-28-2021, 12:51 PM
As I See It

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eman5805

His offense isn't good enough? Defense, okay. But how many players in the league can you honestly say have a better offense than him? Curry? Durant?

Exactly. Thank you!!! Sanity returns to our board.
06-28-2021, 01:02 PM
PELICANSFAN

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eman5805

Being realistic is examining all factors at play and all the objective truths. A lot of us, myself included, are assuming everything. We assume Lillard won't want to come here. You assume he'll corrupt Zion to wanting to leave. Will they both just phone it in on the court? Two elite guys...won't even try to make the best of it? Why are we assuming they don't have some professional integrity? It's not like we're doing wrong by Lillard. We want to build a winning franchise. Flipping a ton of assets is proof of that to him.

So we also assume he won't care? Is that how humans are? No way we could win him over?

I don't accept that. I can't....

I do accept that Griffin could screw it all up somehow though.

Go back and look at why Dame would supposedly be asking out? The reports are that IF he were to ask it, it would be because he wants to win now. If you were a star who could control where he gets traded to and your goal was to win a title now, does the Pelicans even make your list? Again, just trying to be somewhat realistic.
06-28-2021, 01:16 PM
Eman5805

Quote:

Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Go back and look at why Dame would supposedly be asking out? The reports are that IF he were to ask it, it would be because he wants to win now. If you were a star who could control where he gets traded to and your goal was to win a title now, does the Pelicans even make your list? Again, just trying to be somewhat realistic.

That's the other thing. Does he control where he gets traded? What leverage does Dame have? How does it work if he refused to report?
06-28-2021, 01:33 PM
Taker597

Lillard doesn't have a no trade clause. So, Portland would be open shop if this was true. Lillard would go to the highest bidder.
06-28-2021, 01:40 PM
MichaelMcNamara

You guys dont have to debate that part of it --- Dame would be happy to come here. He actually doesnt want a big market or an already accomplished, set in place superstar teammate. The only hurdle to us getting him is if Portland decides to trade him and if they are old school with preferring to send him East. But Dame would have no issue coming here
06-28-2021, 01:43 PM
Wowowowow

I agree. If we are stacking these assets ?just cause? and not for situations like this, we might have to rethink what we are doing in the first place. Just to brag about a so called war chest?

If Dames available, you have to make it shake in my opinion. Anyone but Zion and Jax would be available if it were up to me...trying to keep NAW if I could as well.

If not Dame, who?s your guy behind the curtain? Giannis? Bucks win a ring, kiss that goodbye. KAT or Embiid in a year or two? Then you clearly aren?t taking the Zion family threats serious.
06-28-2021, 01:46 PM
PELICANSFAN

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eman5805

That's the other thing. Does he control where he gets traded? What leverage does Dame have? How does it work if he refused to report?

He could do just what Harden did to force his way to Brooklyn. There were certainly other teams with more assets than Brooklyn, but they were not touching Harden given his demands.
06-28-2021, 01:46 PM
AusPel

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJackisangry

Yep. As for me, Dame is not good enough on both sides of the ball for me to move BI (and move him for a 30 year old at that) to try and win a title with a guy in his 3rd year. For all of Zion?s strengths, he still has a very long way to go before I?d be comfortable taking this gamble.

Dame
Lonzo
Defensive minded 3/4
Zion
Jax/Willy

Plenty enough defense and insane offense. Probably a championship core
06-28-2021, 01:47 PM
PELICANSFAN

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

You guys dont have to debate that part of it --- Dame would be happy to come here. He actually doesnt want a big market or an already accomplished, set in place superstar teammate. The only hurdle to us getting him is if Portland decides to trade him and if they are old school with preferring to send him East. But Dame would have no issue coming here

I doubt Dame would force himself out of Portland to go the Pelicans. His reported reason for being unhappy is with management and with their ability to put together a contender. Why would be force his way out of Portland to come here.
06-28-2021, 01:50 PM
AusPel

Quote:

Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

I doubt Dame would force himself out of Portland to go the Pelicans. His reported reason for being unhappy is with management and with their ability to put together a contender. Why would be force his way out of Portland to come here.

Dame doesn't have much leverage at all. Blazer brass will be trying to maximise their return if the relationship becomes untenable. They don't have to trade him in the slightest, but it might end up being the best for all parties.

In our favour we have the (pretty good - better than most) war chest and we have Zion of course. Everyone knows we're in win now mode. And we have good young core piece in Ingram that you could sell the Blazers to build around, as well as other guys with 'potential' like Kira/NAW and #10. As well as a plethora of other 1sts. You add all these things together and you probably trump most other clubs.

It doesn't have to be a marriage made in heaven, but if it's the best of all the options out there, that's good enough.
06-28-2021, 02:00 PM
PELICANSFAN

Quote:

Originally Posted by AusPel

Dame doesn't have much leverage at all. Blazer brass will be trying to maximise their return if the relationship becomes untenable. They don't have to trade him in the slightest, but it might end up being the best for all parties.

However, we have the (pretty good - better than most) war chest and we have Zion. And we have good young core piece in Ingram that you could sell the Blazers to build around, as well as other guys with 'potential' like Kira/NAW and #10. As well as a plethora of other 1sts. You add all these things together and you probably trump most other clubs.

It doesn't have to be a marriage made in heaven, but if it's the best of all the options out there, that's good enough.

Did Brooklyn have the best assets for Harden? Yet, he forced his way there. The superstars have all the control unfortunately.
06-28-2021, 02:07 PM
AusPel

Quote:

Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Did Brooklyn have the best assets for Harden? Yet, he forced his way there. The superstars have all the control unfortunately.

That they do. Dame might give brass a shortlist of teams he would like, as opposed to a single one like AD and Harden. But who knows
06-28-2021, 02:20 PM
PELICANSFAN

Quote:

Originally Posted by AusPel

That they do. Dame might give brass a shortlist of teams he would like, as opposed to a single one like AD and Harden. But who knows

He certainly could if he decides to force his way out. Personally, I do not think he forces his way out. However, if he did and somehow the Pels made the list, we should go all out to get him. Realistically, unless he just wants to play with Zion, I see no reason he would put us on a short list.
06-28-2021, 02:25 PM
Eman5805

What does forcing his way out even mean in this context? Trade me or I'll hold out? Pull a Jimmy Butler and make a lot of noise? Is that even Lillard's personality? Is that what Harden did? Is it even that simple?
06-28-2021, 02:34 PM
Pelicans_fan_504

Quote:

Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

I doubt Dame would force himself out of Portland to go the Pelicans. His reported reason for being unhappy is with management and with their ability to put together a contender. Why would be force his way out of Portland to come here.

I just don't understand this logic, do people forget we already have a generational type of talent in Zion. Dame has never had a teammate the cailber of Zion. Everytime we played Portland last year Zion destroyed them you think Dame didn't take notice. Dame wanting to come here is so far down the list of things that would prevent us from getting Dame. As already been mentioned the first being will Portland even be willing to trade Dame.
06-28-2021, 02:37 PM
13 - 3

How about this,

REALLY CRAZY idea ��

Portland: Ingram, Lonzo (S&T), Kira, 3 first rd. picks (any 3)

NOLA: Lillard & Covington

+ Pelicans trade Adams & Hart (S&T) for Love
Trade Bled & picks 40&43 for Hield

Sign Theis full MLE

Lillard
Buddy
Covington
Zion
Love

NAW, Didi, Naji, Theis, Jax ��**♂️ pic.twitter.com/1LmmmB4bTg
— Fletcher Mackel (@FletcherWDSU) June 28, 2021
06-28-2021, 03:00 PM
Eman5805

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13 - 3

How about this,

REALLY CRAZY idea ��

Portland: Ingram, Lonzo (S&T), Kira, 3 first rd. picks (any 3)

NOLA: Lillard & Covington

+ Pelicans trade Adams & Hart (S&T) for Love
Trade Bled & picks 40&43 for Hield

Sign Theis full MLE

Lillard
Buddy
Covington
Zion
Love

NAW, Didi, Naji, Theis, Jax ��**♂️ pic.twitter.com/1LmmmB4bTg
— Fletcher Mackel (@FletcherWDSU) June 28, 2021

Jesus Christ...
06-28-2021, 03:04 PM
6warddude

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13 - 3

How about this,

REALLY CRAZY idea ��

Portland: Ingram, Lonzo (S&T), Kira, 3 first rd. picks (any 3)

NOLA: Lillard & Covington

+ Pelicans trade Adams & Hart (S&T) for Love
Trade Bled & picks 40&43 for Hield

Sign Theis full MLE

Lillard
Buddy
Covington
Zion
Love

NAW, Didi, Naji, Theis, Jax ��**♂️ pic.twitter.com/1LmmmB4bTg
— Fletcher Mackel (@FletcherWDSU) June 28, 2021

sign me up for it....also we would need to sign d'antoni to coach because that team will have to outscore its way to a title but it would be a fun team to cheer for...
06-28-2021, 03:04 PM
PolishFan

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13 - 3

How about this,

REALLY CRAZY idea ��

Portland: Ingram, Lonzo (S&T), Kira, 3 first rd. picks (any 3)

NOLA: Lillard & Covington

+ Pelicans trade Adams & Hart (S&T) for Love
Trade Bled & picks 40&43 for Hield

Sign Theis full MLE

Lillard
Buddy
Covington
Zion
Love

NAW, Didi, Naji, Theis, Jax ��**♂️ pic.twitter.com/1LmmmB4bTg
— Fletcher Mackel (@FletcherWDSU) June 28, 2021

I like this. A lot !
06-28-2021, 03:07 PM
As I See It

I wish I was a fly on the wall of the Ingram household right now and know what he was thinking.

I know...I know: "the NBA is a business and you can't take these things personal." But, unless I miss my guess, BI is still human and feelings are not necessarily rooted in logic.

"Last year, I was a cornerstone of the franchise; today, I am an asset (or is it liability) to be dumped. Maybe. I'll pull a "Harden" and force my way out. Honey get me a pen and a piece of paper."

TEAMS I WANT TO PLAY FOR

1. Knicks
2. Celtics
3. Clippers
4. Mia.....
06-28-2021, 03:11 PM
jaxmc1023

Quote:

Originally Posted by As I See It

I wish I was a fly on the wall of the Ingram household right now and know what he was thinking.

I know...I know: "the NBA is a business and you can't take these things personal." But, unless I miss my guess, BI is still human and feelings are not necessarily rooted in logic.

"Last year, I was a cornerstone of the franchise; today, I am an asset (or is it liability) to be dumped."

Bingo.. unless they actually land Lillard (and they almost certainly wont), this is going to end badly
06-28-2021, 03:18 PM
PELICANSFAN

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaxmc1023

Bingo.. unless they actually land Lillard (and they almost certainly wont), this is going to end badly

Meh, I do not think a "Scoop B" tweet is going to set him off. Scoop B is about as reliable as a dead watch, if that.
06-28-2021, 03:20 PM
6warddude

Quote:

Originally Posted by As I See It

I wish I was a fly on the wall of the Ingram household right now and know what he was thinking.

I know...I know: "the NBA is a business and you can't take these things personal." But, unless I miss my guess, BI is still human and feelings are not necessarily rooted in logic.

"Last year, I was a cornerstone of the franchise; today, I am an asset (or is it liability) to be dumped. Maybe. I'll pull a "Harden" and force my way out. Honey get me a pen and a piece of paper."

TEAMS I WANT TO PLAY FOR

1. Knicks
2. Celtics
3. Clippers
4. Mia.....

thats why if you are griff you call ingram and shut those rumors down.....imo any real trade should be to add to ingram and zion.........but i cant lie, that fletcher trade would be a fun team for me to cheer for lol...
06-28-2021, 03:23 PM
As I See It

Quote:

Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Meh, I do not think a "Scoop B" tweet is going to set him off. Scoop B is about as reliable as a dead watch, if that.

Right now...today, BI is the only player on this team who has proven he can score on all three levels and he's 24 years old. Let's get rid of him. SMH
06-28-2021, 04:25 PM
13 - 3

Quote:

Originally Posted by As I See It

Right now...today, BI is the only player on this team who has proven he can score on all three levels and he's 24 years old. Let's get rid of him. SMH

For Christ’s sake how much longer does he need to develop? Do you understand? WE ARE A WIN NOW TEAM NOT7 More Years.

DEVELOP INGRAM LOLOL Are we Developing Bledsoe too?

Imagine this

REALLY CRAZY idea ��

Portland: Ingram, Lonzo (S&T), Kira, 3 first rd. picks (any 3)

NOLA: Lillard & Covington

+ Pelicans trade Adams & Hart (S&T) for Love
Trade Bled & picks 40&43 for Hield

Sign Theis full MLE

Lillard
Buddy
Covington
Zion
Love

NAW, Didi, Naji, Theis, Jax ��**♂️ pic.twitter.com/1LmmmB4bTg
— Fletcher Mackel (@FletcherWDSU) June 28, 2021

Remember Zion can leave if you don’t win NOW!!!!!
06-28-2021, 04:27 PM
13 - 3

Pelicans Passing on Chris Paul

How is that going?

No let’s Develop Bledsoe. lOL
06-28-2021, 04:29 PM
donato

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13 - 3

WE ARE A WIN NOW TEAM

According to who?
06-28-2021, 04:29 PM
PELICANSFAN

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13 - 3

For Christ’s sake how much longer does he need to develop? Do you understand? WE ARE A WIN NOW TEAM NOT7 More Years.

DEVELOP INGRAM LOLOL Are we Developing Bledsoe too?

Imagine this

REALLY CRAZY idea ��

Portland: Ingram, Lonzo (S&T), Kira, 3 first rd. picks (any 3)

NOLA: Lillard & Covington

+ Pelicans trade Adams & Hart (S&T) for Love
Trade Bled & picks 40&43 for Hield

Sign Theis full MLE

Lillard
Buddy
Covington
Zion
Love

NAW, Didi, Naji, Theis, Jax ��**♂️ pic.twitter.com/1LmmmB4bTg
— Fletcher Mackel (@FletcherWDSU) June 28, 2021

Remember Zion can leave if you don’t win NOW!!!!!

If you are really pinning your hopes on another Fletcher fantasy trade, good luck. Not a chance.
06-28-2021, 04:35 PM
AUSSIE_PELICAN

So nobody even considers that both Lonzo and Hart would need agree on the sign and trade?
06-28-2021, 05:04 PM
hornetzplaya

Quote:

Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN

So nobody even considers that both Lonzo and Hart would need agree on the sign and trade?

Glad someone said it.
06-28-2021, 05:15 PM
13 - 3

Quote:

Originally Posted by donato

According to who?

David Griffin has said multiple times . It has been posted multiple times on this site

Do you want to keep Zion?
06-28-2021, 05:16 PM
13 - 3

Quote:

Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

If you are really pinning your hopes on another Fletcher fantasy trade, good luck. Not a chance.

Shamit too?

Honestly, if you trade for Dame, it's Zion who needs to show he's gonna be ready to win at the highest levels. Dame has skins on the wall, it's Zion's turn to prove he can do it too. https://t.co/aEJZkfj7s0
— Shamit Dua (@FearTheBrown) June 28, 2021

Nah you're right, Pels should keep starting Bledsoe �� https://t.co/CSjjhIm5D2
— Shamit Dua (@FearTheBrown) June 28, 2021
06-28-2021, 05:19 PM
13 - 3

Quote:

Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN

So nobody even considers that both Lonzo and Hart would need agree on the sign and trade?

So now they want to stay?
06-28-2021, 05:23 PM
As I See It

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13 - 3

Shamit too?

Honestly, if you trade for Dame, it's Zion who needs to show he's gonna be ready to win at the highest levels. Dame has skins on the wall, it's Zion's turn to prove he can do it too. https://t.co/aEJZkfj7s0
— Shamit Dua (@FearTheBrown) June 28, 2021

Nah you're right, Pels should keep starting Bledsoe �� https://t.co/CSjjhIm5D2
— Shamit Dua (@FearTheBrown) June 28, 2021

This to the Nth!!!

Until I see more to his game than 'Steamrolling", I'm not going to trade away a 24 point a game player who can beat you multiple ways . But admittedly, that's just me.
06-28-2021, 05:24 PM
Fedupfan

I’d throw BI out the building if they accepted him for Dame. BI and Zion don’t even fit well together. You can’t win now by trying to force a combo to work for years and still have 32 wins.
06-28-2021, 05:37 PM
donato

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13 - 3

David Griffin has said multiple times . It has been posted multiple times on this site

Do you want to keep Zion?

I thought Griffin said he wanted to have a sustainable winner. Can you please point me to the quote where he said we are a win now team?
06-28-2021, 05:38 PM
donato

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fedupfan

I’d throw BI out the building if they accepted him for Dame. BI and Zion don’t even fit well together. You can’t win now by trying to force a combo to work for years and still have 32 wins.

I'm not convinced they can't fit well together.
06-28-2021, 05:43 PM
Fedupfan

Quote:

Originally Posted by donato

I thought Griffin said he wanted to have a sustainable winner. Can you please point me to the quote where he said we are a win now team?

It’s a fairly recent situation because the rumor is Zion wants out because they aren’t winning and his family has displeasure with the organization. People assumed that means they must win now in order to make Zion happy.
06-28-2021, 05:49 PM
donato

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fedupfan

It’s a fairly recent situation because the rumor is Zion wants out because they aren’t winning and his family has displeasure with the organization. People assumed that means they must win now in order to make Zion happy.

Sure, I'm aware of the random family member that said that, and that it's also possible Zion feels that way. However, that's not the same as Griffin saying it. It's pure speculation. I expect us to make significant moves this offseason regardless, but that's not the same as mandating us to be a "win now" team.

And maybe if Lillard does become available we would trade for him. Even if I don't agree with the move I'll still cheer for the team.
06-28-2021, 06:39 PM
13 - 3

Quote:

Originally Posted by donato

I thought Griffin said he wanted to have a sustainable winner. Can you please point me to the quote where he said we are a win now team?

For the 2,35544 time . Start with 2019

https://www.forbes.com/sites/christo...rade-deadline/

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