Truncated Offseason Thread

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Originally Posted by luckyman

Or Redick once he gets traded. I seriously doubt he just finishes his contract here and walks to a new team.

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His BFF SVG is here now, much more incentive to stay

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Originally Posted by AusPel

His BFF SVG is here now, much more incentive to stay

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Sure but he's also old as heck and Griff knows he's probably not likely to re-sign given that desire for a ring late in the career, so a trade is likely

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Sure but he's also old as heck and Griff knows he's probably not likely to re-sign given that desire for a ring late in the career, so a trade is likely

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Maybe we will get those picks back we gave up for Adams!!!

There is still a two way guy to sign. There are a handful of undrafted guys still out there.

A roster is made up of 14 or 15 spots? And then each team has 2 two-way contracts? Or is it 14 roster spots and the option of 2 two-way contracts. At present given Lewis and Ingram sign, the Pelicans have 14 roster spots filled and 1 of 2 two way spots. In other words, they have one spot left, which I guess they could leave open. Why does this matter? The unpredictable situation with COVID and the fact other leagues (MLB and NFL) have made adjustments for each team in terms of access to an expanded roster (NFL has 16 practice squad spots and can protect 4 each Sunday, and bring up a player from the practice squad at least 2 times and send him back to the P-squad. Covid actually allows for more than two call-ups to the roster. I am concerned the NBA is not really addressing this.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Sure but he's also old as heck and Griff knows he's probably not likely to re-sign given that desire for a ring late in the career, so a trade is likely

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Yea and, if you're JJ, it makes more sense to play out the first half of the season and see which contender would be the best fit for you. From a Pels perspective, the further we get into the season, the less teams will value their 2021 first round picks once they realize they'll be picking in the late twenties.

Ideally, the Pels can pick up one more first round pick as well as set themselves up to pick somewhere between 8-12. Use their two 2021 picks and some of their future draft capital to trade up and get the wing the covet. This 2021 class is loaded with wings.

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Originally Posted by pelafanatic

Yea and, if you're JJ, it makes more sense to play out the first half of the season and see which contender would be the best fit for you. From a Pels perspective, the further we get into the season, the less teams will value their 2021 first round picks once they realize they'll be picking in the late twenties.

Ideally, the Pels can pick up one more first round pick as well as set themselves up to pick somewhere between 8-12. Use their two 2021 picks and some of their future draft capital to trade up and get the wing the covet. This 2021 class is loaded with wings.

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This is just letting my early 2021-scouting coming out a bit, but my early nod for a wing we could draft probably between 8-15 is Scottie Barnes. He's playing for FSU this year so don't expect gaudy numbers (that's just not how FSU play) but he's 6'9, about 225lbs, and shows the most skill as a defender and passer. Wanna see how his shooting plays out this year, and if the defense continues to be outlier-great, but that's my early heads up.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

This is just letting my early 2021-scouting coming out a bit, but my early nod for a wing we could draft probably between 8-15 is Scottie Barnes. He's playing for FSU this year so don't expect gaudy numbers (that's just not how FSU play) but he's 6'9, about 225lbs, and shows the most skill as a defender and passer. Wanna see how his shooting plays out this year, and if the defense continues to be outlier-great, but that's my early heads up.

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lol thats my lil cousin....ill let him know you are rooting for him to be a pelican...in a perfect world he do have his team he would love to play for but if things go right for him,,on paper that team will be drafting late 20s..

New Orleans Pelicans All-Star F Brandon Ingram has agreed to a five-year, $158 million maximum contract extension, his agents Jeff Schwartz and Jordan Gertler of @excelsm_bball tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 24, 2020

I figure this doesn't need its own thread since we all knew it would happen. But the roster is finalized now.

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Originally Posted by hornetzplaya

New Orleans Pelicans All-Star F Brandon Ingram has agreed to a five-year, $158 million maximum contract extension, his agents Jeff Schwartz and Jordan Gertler of @excelsm_bball tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 24, 2020

I figure this doesn't need its own thread since we all knew it would happen. But the roster is finalized now.

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Perfect! We’re in for one hell of a season.

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New Orleans Pelicans All-Star F Brandon Ingram has agreed to a five-year, $158 million maximum contract extension, his agents Jeff Schwartz and Jordan Gertler of @excelsm_bball tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 24, 2020

congrats...glad he got paid...lets get ready for training camp...

Dedmon is officially waived... Always could use a 3rd body.

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Originally Posted by Taker597

Dedmon is officially waived... Always could use a 3rd body.

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Not only has Dedmon massively regressed, but we also have a third body.

Unless you're planning to just not play Jax at all this year, you can't have minutes at centre for Adams, Jax, and also some Zion spot minutes, and maybe Hernangomez, and also Dedmon.

We're also only $500k under the tax, and I can't see us becoming a tax team for Dedmon.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Not only has Dedmon massively regressed, but we also have a third body.

Unless you're planning to just not play Jax at all this year, you can't have minutes at centre for Adams, Jax, and also some Zion spot minutes, and maybe Hernangomez, and also Dedmon.

We're also only $500k under the tax, and I can't see us becoming a tax team for Dedmon.

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I forgot about Willy.

Just gonna toss this out there...

I got NBA 2k21 on PC today. Started a MyLeague with the Pelicans. Simmed the entire first season and made no trades or anything at all.

SVG won CotY. Pels went 56-26. 2nd seed in the West behind GSW who went 58-24.

Lamelo won RotY, Giannis won MVP and DPotY.

Pels swept Rockets in R1, but lost 4-2 to the LAL in R2.

Bucks won Finals 4-3 against the Mavs.

Ingram made his 2nd all-star game.

Zion scored 51 on March 22 2021, Ingram made 9 3's on Jan 30 2021

Zion scored 43 in a playoff game on june 1 2021, and then 40 2 days later.

Well, there ya go.

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Originally Posted by JunkHead

Just gonna toss this out there...

I got NBA 2k21 on PC today. Started a MyLeague with the Pelicans. Simmed the entire first season and made no trades or anything at all.

SVG won CotY. Pels went 56-26. 2nd seed in the West behind GSW who went 58-24.

Lamelo won RotY, Giannis won MVP and DPotY.

Pels swept Rockets in R1, but lost 4-2 to the LAL in R2.

Bucks won Finals 4-3 against the Mavs.

Ingram made his 2nd all-star game.

Zion scored 51 on March 22 2021, Ingram made 9 3's on Jan 30 2021

Zion scored 43 in a playoff game on june 1 2021, and then 40 2 days later.

Well, there ya go.

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That would be lovely. But I'm assuming we'll go 46-36 (pretty damn good first season if you ask me) and get bounced in the first round by whoever in 6 games. I also think we'll start off slow as hell losing more than we win. But as soon as we start to gel in the midst of the season, the wheels will start rolling quickly.

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Originally Posted by JunkHead

Just gonna toss this out there...

I got NBA 2k21 on PC today. Started a MyLeague with the Pelicans. Simmed the entire first season and made no trades or anything at all.

SVG won CotY. Pels went 56-26. 2nd seed in the West behind GSW who went 58-24.

Lamelo won RotY, Giannis won MVP and DPotY.

Pels swept Rockets in R1, but lost 4-2 to the LAL in R2.

Bucks won Finals 4-3 against the Mavs.

Ingram made his 2nd all-star game.

Zion scored 51 on March 22 2021, Ingram made 9 3's on Jan 30 2021

Zion scored 43 in a playoff game on june 1 2021, and then 40 2 days later.

Well, there ya go.

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I stopped reading at "Lamelo won RotY"

Front court is very solid. How far this team goes depends on its backcourt play. I'll say it now; Kira is key!!

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Originally Posted by luckyman

I stopped reading at "Lamelo won RotY"

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Eh, he might, depends on what Charlotte does. It's not a great rookie class in the traditional sense for RotY races so I feel like all of the guys who are favourites for the award will be guys that nobody thinks has the best career ahead of them, or is even the best player.

For example, let's say the Hornets just feed endless ballhandler possessions into LaMelo and optimise for him. It wouldn't be absurd for him to, in that super super-high usage role put up something like 17pts 8.5asts per game. The efficiency would suck, and the overall team offense would be bad, and he'll be a bad defender, but since when has RotY voting cared about stuff like that?

Similarly, I think Obi Toppin has a good RotY campaign ahead of him; he's on a bad team that isn't optimised properly but hey, he'll take a bunch of shots and he's a big that can shoot a bit so he'll probably end up averaging fairly high scoring numbers and that's enough for some people.

Free agent guard Frank Jackson has agreed to a deal with the Oklahoma City Thunder, source tells ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 24, 2020

Frank just following where all his friends got sent

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Free agent guard Frank Jackson has agreed to a deal with the Oklahoma City Thunder, source tells ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 24, 2020

Frank just following where all his friends got sent

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Don't OKC have like 54 players on their roster?

If they wanted him, why not include him in S&T instead of one of the others they are likely to cut?

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Free agent guard Frank Jackson has agreed to a deal with the Oklahoma City Thunder, source tells ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 24, 2020

Frank just following where all his friends got sent

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With Frank's signing, every Pelican Free Agent from last year now has a 20/21 Contract.

Training camp in one week (I guess less since the day is over).....season opener in less than a month.

Hey. Y'all remember that time people were thinking we would mostly run the same team back due to the truncated offseason? This offseason has been wild.

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Originally Posted by As I See It

With Frank's signing, every Pelican Free Agent from last year now has a 20/21 Contract.

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That was the real end game of the Adams' trade.

Kenny
Zylan
Josh
Frank

All ended up at the Thunder

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Originally Posted by msusousaphone

Training camp in one week (I guess less since the day is over).....season opener in less than a month.

Hey. Y'all remember that time people were thinking we would mostly run the same team back due to the truncated offseason? This offseason has been wild.

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Lowkey wish the season was from December to late July every year.

So the Pelicans can have 15 players on the roster but according to beat writers will leave one position open. In addition, they have 2 two-way positions that are limited in playtime and have filled one of those (Xavier kid). So unless they sign another two-way guy they are likely done for right now. But I would say the NBA should have made additional provisions for the roster given the pandemic situation.

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Originally Posted by Lee2000

So the Pelicans can have 15 players on the roster but according to beat writers will leave one position open. In addition, they have 2 two-way positions that are limited in playtime and have filled one of those (Xavier kid). So unless they sign another two-way guy they are likely done for right now. But I would say the NBA should have made additional provisions for the roster given the pandemic situation.

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Yeah they're gonna leave a roster spot open. Can't afford a min guy anyway without pushing into tax.

They can bring a 2 way guy in if they want. I think that counts as a roster spot while they're with team

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Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN

Don't OKC have like 54 players on their roster?

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24, but yeah they need to cut a fair number of guys loose.

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Originally Posted by AusPel

Yeah they're gonna leave a roster spot open. Can't afford a min guy anyway without pushing into tax.

They can bring a 2 way guy in if they want. I think that counts as a roster spot while they're with team

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And I suppose that 15th guy would be Marshall. I would like to see them attempt to sign another 2-way guy. There are a handful of forwards that were not drafted. I am not sure they could get a Euro guy at that kind of contract.

Not player related but is somewhat useful to know...bye Zatarain's. That cajun chicken alfredo pasta dinner is scrumptious.

Never heard of Ibotta I use Wikibuy.

https://www.nola.com/sports/pelicans...73933b25f.html

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— ETwaun Moore (@ETwaun55) November 26, 2020

Who dis?

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...leans-pelicans

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Australian centre Will Magnay is finalising a two-way deal with the New Orleans Pelicans, league sources told ESPN.

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The Brisbane Bullets big-man garnered interest from at least five NBA teams -- including the Golden State Warriors, Dallas Mavericks, San Antonio Spurs, sources said -- but it set to officially sign a two-way contract with the Pelicans over the weekend.

Magnay, a 6'10 big-man out of Queensland, averaged 8.0 points, 6.0 rebounds, and 2.0 blocks over his 2019-20 NBL season with the Bullets, walking away with the league's Most Improved Player award.

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Looks like an upside signing and as was stated by ESPN a two-way player this year is likely to be an extension of the roster for COVID purposes.

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Originally Posted by Lee2000

Looks like an upside signing and as was stated by ESPN a two-way player this year is likely to be an extension of the roster for COVID purposes.

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Don't think it's due to COVID, he's taking one of the two way spots as per a normal year

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Originally Posted by AusPel

Don't think it's due to COVID, he's taking one of the two way spots as per a normal year

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I would normally agree with you, but those guys were set to play some in the D league which is highly in doubt. ESPN eluded to the appeal of playing in the two-way spot was why he signed from Australia. He expects to play more. So COVID is either directly or indirectly involved in that it alters the way two-way guys play.

Not that we should put any (and I mean literally any) stock in offseason workout videos, but any updates on how/what Zion is doing? This insane offseason has kind of distracted us from the ultimate point that this team goes as far as Zion can take it.

Magnay just seems like one we snagged up because the potential was too enticing. It?s fine in the big scheme of things, but we will be lacking a true backup wing and a combo forward. Seeing this much raw talent though does make this season that more intriguing. Finding gems is always a fun experience.

If you're banking on either of the 2 way guys to make an impact, it's Marshall.

Magnay did some nice things in one of the least athletic pro leagues in the world

https://www.talkbasket.net/112444-gi...ys-nba-insider

We should be thankful that the league moved to a 10 team playoff. This now allows us to compete for one of those ten spots while not being forced to give minutes to aging vets over developing young guys in order to try to take the 8th seed.

I have more trust in SVG regardless, but the Pels FO has basically forced his hand to play NAW and Jax extended minutes, which was a huge point of contention last year. It is absolutely crucial to figure out what we have in these guys this season; and, if we don't like the fit, to build up their trade values.

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Originally Posted by pelafanatic

We should be thankful that the league moved to a 10 team playoff. This now allows us to compete for one of those ten spots while not being forced to give minutes to aging vets over developing young guys in order to try to take the 8th seed.

I have more trust in SVG regardless, but the Pels FO has basically forced his hand to play NAW and Jax extended minutes, which was a huge point of contention last year. It is absolutely crucial to figure out what we have in these guys this season; and, if we don't like the fit, to build up their trade values.

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Good point but is it confirmed to be 10 teams again?


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Originally Posted by Sleeper

Good point but is it confirmed to be 10 teams again?


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Seeds 7-10 will compete in a playoff for the final 2 spots. Can sell that to the fanbase while simultaneously developing talent. I think this was the idea behind the offseason, specifically with minimal fans in attendance.

This is pretty huge news. 5 straight is an absolute win for the Pelicans. I said in January that David Griffin would lose that negotiation. Kudos to the Pels FO for negotiating this.

— Shamit Dua (@FearTheBrown) November 30, 2020

David Griffin - When BI left the bubble he made it very clear to Trajan and I that he doesn't intend to miss the playoffs again in his career

— Shamit Dua (@FearTheBrown) November 30, 2020

Griff mentions Adams has already been working Willy Hernangomez and teaching him

— Shamit Dua (@FearTheBrown) November 30, 2020

David Griffin says we envision being able to start Eric and Lonzo much in the way we started Lonzo and Jrue. Says Eric and Jrue as similar players. He says all the pieces in their backcourt are interchangeable and can play with each other.

— Shamit Dua (@FearTheBrown) November 30, 2020

David Griffin - People unfairly look at Zion as a big or a 4/5. We very much envision a time where Zion will be playing the 3 and defending the 3.

Mentions Zion will be handling the ball.

— Shamit Dua (@FearTheBrown) November 30, 2020

Just want to clarify, since this makes it sound like Griff said exclusively the 3: he mentioned twice the positionless aspect. So basically he's saying view Zion more as someone who can play 3/4/5, rather than just being a traditional 'big'. Which I think most of us wanted anyway!

Griff says a lot of people make a big deal about being able to shoot from the big position but not enough make a big deal about setting a hard screen and making the right read as passer

— Shamit Dua (@FearTheBrown) November 30, 2020

Griff says we'll see more of the "real" Zion who can do multiple things on the court rather than the mostly post up big he was

— Shamit Dua (@FearTheBrown) November 30, 2020

This is good! Let him handle the ball some. He can run a PnR as the ball handler, he can drive and kick: he's a very talented passer.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

David Griffin says we envision being able to start Eric and Lonzo much in the way we started Lonzo and Jrue. Says Eric and Jrue as similar players. He says all the pieces in their backcourt are interchangeable and can play with each other.

— Shamit Dua (@FearTheBrown) November 30, 2020

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This is similar to what Mac has been saying. We have a lot of guards but they're not "point" guards in the traditional sense in that they're not limited to one particular role. The little things that Adams does allows you to roll with 3 guard lineups if you choose.

My main hope for this team, and my main worry, is that BI takes over as the guy when we get down to the end of games. I think there's a clear BI and then Zion and then everyone else pecking order this season, and I hope the rest of the guys can accept and embrace their specific roles around the two studs.

David Griffin mentions Nickeil Alexander-Walker can pair well with either Eric Bledsoe or Lonzo Ball.

Sounds like the Pelicans plan on a rotation slot for NAW this year.

— The Bird Writes (@thebirdwrites) November 30, 2020

This is what I've been hinting at for a few days. Expect NAW to play a major role this season.

I have to imagine in addition to Zion being in shape, he’s gonna be doing a lot of work on his handle.

Jarrod Uthoff
If you want a younger version of a stretch four, Uthoff might be worth a gamble. He continues to battle to find a role and a home in the NBA, but he’s a nice shooter and has good positional size, and heck, at least you’d be signing Uthoff and not Henry Ellenson. Hate you forever, Henry.
https://medium.com/sportsraid/15-nba...al-4ee9a163ad4

Pelicans, Jarrod Uthoff Agree To Deal
November 30th, 2020 at 12:57pm CST by Luke Adams
The Pelicans are signing free agent forward Jarrod Uthoff to one-year contract, reports Will Guillory of The Athletic (Twitter link). The minimum-salary deal will be non-guaranteed, Guillory adds.

Uthoff, 27, has played for a handful of teams in the NBA and the G League since going undrafted in 2016, as well as spending a stint in Russia in 2018/19. Last season, he signed a 10-day contract with the Grizzlies in February and then joined the Wizards as a substitute player during the summer restart.

Although Uthoff only got into seven NBA games in 2019/20, he had a big year in the G League, averaging 19.0 PPG, 10.7 RPG, and 3.1 APG with a shooting line of .491/.367/.790 in 34 games (34.9 MPG) for the Memphis Hustle. He was named to the All-NBAGL First Team.

Uthoff is probably unlikely to make the Pelicans’ regular season roster, but the team doesn’t have a full 15-man squad of guaranteed salaries, so the door’s not entirely closed if he impresses during the preseason.

New Orleans has also officially announced its previously–reported deals with free agents Willy Hernangomez and Wenyen Gabriel.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

David Griffin says we envision being able to start Eric and Lonzo much in the way we started Lonzo and Jrue. Says Eric and Jrue as similar players. He says all the pieces in their backcourt are interchangeable and can play with each other.

— Shamit Dua (@FearTheBrown) November 30, 2020

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Is Magic Johnson Griff's Twitter ghostwriter now