Playoffs Thread

Herro almost cost them the last game with his poor passing decisions, not happy to see that continue on this game

Okay Herro playing more better

Knowing that we need shooters, every time I see Herro make a shot I get sad.

Surprised the Celtics came back from being up by 19

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Knowing that we need shooters, every time I see Herro make a shot I get sad.

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Yet people want to trade Reddick.. I wanted to draft Herro and was actually pushing for us to trade for him after acquiring assets in the AD trade. He’s part of their future so that ain’t happening now. I think NAW being under JJs wing for one more summer and season will be huge. The kid is already an electric scorer and can definitely hit from 3 at a high clip. He just needs to slightly improve by taking better shots and do what most guys do shooting is continue to get better.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Knowing that we need shooters, every time I see Herro make a shot I get sad.

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Herro for Jrue lets gooooooooooo

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Originally Posted by AusPel

Herro for Jrue lets gooooooooooo

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Contracts don’t come close to lining up. Would include more from the Heat and why in the world would the Heat do that? They are loaded with young cost controlled guards while having their own vet PG they love in Dragic. The Heat love Herro.

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Originally Posted by GuardianAngel25

Contracts don’t come close to lining up. Would include more from the Heat and why in the world would the Heat do that? They are loaded with young cost controlled guards while having their own vet PG they love in Dragic. The Heat love Herro.

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Don't need to line up when you have cap space, of which Miami has plenty

Jrue and Butler would be so lit defensively.

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Originally Posted by GuardianAngel25

I wanted to draft Herro and was actually pushing for us to trade for him after acquiring assets in the AD trade.

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It's nice to read a post from you that doesn't result in a brain aneurysm

just logged onto ESPN to see that AD hit a buzzer-beating 3. how nice for him. #dontcare

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Originally Posted by neworleanshoo

just logged onto ESPN to see that AD hit a buzzer-beating 3. how nice for him. #dontcare

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Yet you took the time to come here and post this

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Originally Posted by neworleanshoo

just logged onto ESPN to see that AD hit a buzzer-beating 3. how nice for him. #dontcare

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its like the insult to injury thing.....it hurt that he forced us to trade him to the lakers and now we have to watch him win a title with lebron this year..

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Originally Posted by 6warddude

its like the insult to injury thing.....it hurt that he forced us to trade him to the lakers and now we have to watch him win a title with lebron this year..

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You must let this go.

If MPJ stays healthy he's gonna be the steal of that draft. Denver built a hell of a team, hope We can be there a few years from now..

Denver only has 2 playmakers in Murray and Jokic. Yet look at how far they've gotten.

Really stings when you have a team full of playmakers and became a dumpster fire when it mattered.

yeah i lied. i care (thought it was obvious). it sucks.

2 rebounds in 40 mins..

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Originally Posted by PeliKhan

If MPJ stays healthy he's gonna be the steal of that draft. Denver built a hell of a team, hope We can be there a few years from now..

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The problem with MPJ was never his overall ability (although he does have big holes in his game). Before college, his upside was considered huge.

His problem was always that he's incredibly arrogant, doesn't listen to criticism or feedback, and (most importantly) he has huge injury issues.

Two back surgeries before you're 20 is not good. Especially when you come from a family filled with careers ended prematurely through injury (both his sisters retired from sports due to leg issues, his brother had like three MCL tears I think already).

Solomon Hill sighting. He plays for Miami now. Somewhere Dell Demps is smiling

Man, I wish we had Herro here.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Man, I wish we had Herro here.

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He's really fun.

Add him to the long list of players who were totally misused at Kentucky because Calipari doesn't really bother to tailor his strategies or plans for his personnel ever.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Man, I wish we had Herro here.

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Me too. I know he's not touchable but I would give Miami any player on our roster not named Williamson or Ingram and our number 13 for him. I think he's going to be that good. It will be interesting to see what Miami does with Dragic as they are guard heavy (Herro, Robinson, Dunn and to be honest...Butler). 17MM per is a huge number.

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Originally Posted by As I See It

Me too. I know he's not touchable but I would give Miami any player on our roster not named Williamson or Ingram and our number 13 for him. I think he's going to be that good. It will be interesting to see what Miami does with Dragic as they are guard heavy (Herro, Robinson, Dunn and to be honest...Butler). 17MM per is a huge number.

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They're probably going to let Dragic go. He's a free agent this 'summer', and after how good he's been this year and this playoff run I can't imagine him accepting some super small deal. Someone is going to chuck a desperation $15m+ at him, even if only short term, and Miami's probably not going to commit to that with Herro, Butler, Bam, etc, all on the team who can do some ball handling: especially not with the leaps Herro has taken as an on ball creator this year.

Maybe I'm wrong (they have a ton of cap space, almost everyone expires this year for them lol) but I could see him going loose.

Jrue + #13 for Dragic (S&T) and Duncan, who says no?




...Miami does, but aside from that.

The Heat have cap space for days, and they are a free agent destination. If they can get to the NBA Finals with this squad why would they change anything? If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

Dragic isn't going anywhere

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Jrue + #13 for Dragic (S&T) and Duncan, who says no?

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Respectfully...no way. Dragic is 34 (but if we want him...just sign him as a free agent which I wouldn't mind at all). Robinson is one-dimensional player who works for the telephone company (Long Distance Operator) and his contract expires in 21.

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Originally Posted by As I See It

Respectfully...no way. Dragic is 34 (but if we want him...just sign him as a free agent which I wouldn't mind at all). Robinson is one-dimensional player who works for the telephone company (Long Distance Operator) and his contract expires in 21.

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Duncan is a 6'7 JJ Redick. Don't underrate that.

I agree about Dragic's age, and I was mostly joking. I just remember that there were some rumblings about Jrue to Miami earlier in the year (January ish, I think) and I was thinking what would they maybe consider for that. Obviously Butler, Bam, and Herro are off the table.

Could do the S&T with Olynyk instead and then have them add a pick but iirc Miami has no picks atm.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

They're probably going to let Dragic go. He's a free agent this 'summer', and after how good he's been this year and this playoff run I can't imagine him accepting some super small deal. Someone is going to chuck a desperation $15m+ at him, even if only short term, and Miami's probably not going to commit to that with Herro, Butler, Bam, etc, all on the team who can do some ball handling: especially not with the leaps Herro has taken as an on ball creator this year.

Maybe I'm wrong (they have a ton of cap space, almost everyone expires this year for them lol) but I could see him going loose.

Jrue + #13 for Dragic (S&T) and Duncan, who says no?




...Miami does, but aside from that.

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That is awful.
You want to pay a 34 year old and trade our 13th pick and Jrue for a one dimensional player??

Didn't expect this from you Dae.

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Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN

That is awful.
You want to pay a 34 year old and trade our 13th pick and Jrue for a one dimensional player??

Didn't expect this from you Dae.

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To quote myself from the post immediately before yours:

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I agree about Dragic's age, and I was mostly joking.

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Just as a side note, isn't Dragic's resurgence this year weird? He looked... well, not washed but certainly not great the last two years and then now he comes roaring back.

Weird.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Duncan is a 6'7 JJ Redick. Don't underrate that.

I agree about Dragic's age, and I was mostly joking. I just remember that there were some rumblings about Jrue to Miami earlier in the year (January ish, I think) and I was thinking what would they maybe consider for that. Obviously Butler, Bam, and Herro are off the table.

Could do the S&T with Olynyk instead and then have them add a pick but iirc Miami has no picks atm.

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Earlier this summer I said both Olynyk and Dragic (in that order) should be targeted during free agency. I thought Olynyk might be a nice bridge until JAX is ready. Now I'm hedging a little, as Olynyk has looked awful in the bubble. But, I'm still drawn to Dragic and what he could bring to the team (Rubio on steroids).

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Duncan is a 6'7 JJ Redick. Don't underrate that.

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That's an insult to Redick

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Originally Posted by AusPel

That's an insult to Redick

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Duncan Robinson 44.6% from 3 on 8.6 per game this year, and was 93% from the FT line. He shot off the catch, on pullups, off movement, off screens, even when contested hard; he relocated and passed well in an auxiliary role, but was limited on defense and had only very basic creation abilities.

If that's not a Redick year, idk what is lol

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Duncan Robinson 44.6% from 3 on 8.6 per game this year, and was 93% from the FT line. He shot off the catch, on pullups, off movement, off screens, even when contested hard; he relocated and passed well in an auxiliary role, but was limited on defense and had only very basic creation abilities.

If that's not a Redick year, idk what is lol

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Robinson is super 1 dimensional and 6 times the amount of threes made in the playoffs than two pointers

Redick actually has 30 more 2 point field goals made in the playoffs than threes

Robinson is a correspondent on JJ Reddick’s “Old Man and the Three” Podcast. He is great to listen to, and very informative. He has talked about how his shot mechanic have changed since entering the league (and how he gets his shot off so quickly), to just putting up shots (not making them, but just getting them off), to following JJ in getting an arm sleeve because he thinks it will give him street cred with fellow players. I don’t see him leaving Miami unless they trade him.

As I said before, unless it’s broke, why fix it? If the Heat are reincarnating the Billups/Wallace Brothers Pistons, and winning without a Super Star, why change it? If you have buyin from everyone, why bring in an element who might not buy in? Dragić might be old, and he is in a contract year, but Miami can re-up him, and they know him better than any other team.

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Originally Posted by AusPel

Robinson is super 1 dimensional and 6 times the amount of threes made in the playoffs than two pointers

Redick actually has 30 more 2 point field goals made in the playoffs than threes

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Robinson shoots way more 3s than 2s because that is literally what he is asked to do.

Read anything that Spoelstra or the other Heat players have said about practices or Robinson's breakout. They want him shooting, from 3, as much as humanly possible. In practice, they have him shooting 3s more than anything else. That's literally what he's there to do.

You can't blame him for shooting a boatload of threes and prioritising it over the 2 when his coach and teammates are literally asking him to do exactly that.

It’s true. Robinson discusses that in the podcast. He doesn’t shoot 3s because he is afraid to cross the arch, he is told to take those shots.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Robinson shoots way more 3s than 2s because that is literally what he is asked to do.

Read anything that Spoelstra or the other Heat players have said about practices or Robinson's breakout. They want him shooting, from 3, as much as humanly possible. In practice, they have him shooting 3s more than anything else. That's literally what he's there to do.

You can't blame him for shooting a boatload of threes and prioritising it over the 2 when his coach and teammates are literally asking him to do exactly that.

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He's not Redick then, he's Bertans

I would like to see how the Heat would have gone if this wasn't for a bubble environment.
They were a pretty poor road team.
This bubble suits them well.

16 minutes and AD haven't recorded a rebound

AD has gone a whole half without a rebound.

The 'self-absorbed' baby cries on every play

Everybody freak out, AD is "hurt" :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Taker597

AD has gone a whole half without a rebound.

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AD hit one game winner and said ''screw it, this is all I'm doing from now on''

Jamal Murray has been incredible this entire playoff run

Monte Morris is shooting 65/60/85 against the Lakers which is pretty cool

Lakers resorting to the ''just blatantly foul Jamal Murray every three seconds'' tactic and refs just letting it run.

On one hand, it's not too surprising. Lakers, Lebron, finals, narrative.

On the other hand, it does put Denver down 3-1, which as we've seen in the last two series, is exactly where they want to be.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Lakers resorting to the ''just blatantly foul Jamal Murray every three seconds'' tactic and refs just letting it run.

On one hand, it's not too surprising. Lakers, Lebron, finals, narrative.

On the other hand, it does put Denver down 3-1, which as we've seen in the last two series, is exactly where they want to be.

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Laker did send in that letter. Lol.



This why I have sooo little hope of getting to the finals. Officiating gets conveniently large market biased in the playoffs. If it's not... Be sure the team up 2-1 to send in a letter of disaproval.

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Originally Posted by Taker597

Laker did send in that letter. Lol.



This why I have sooo little hope of getting to the finals. Officiating gets conveniently large market biased in the playoffs. If it's not... Be sure the team up 2-1 to send in a letter of disaproval.

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It can be done, there have been underdog team champions before, but you have to overcome so much. Definitely makes it harder, for sure.

On the plus side, Lebron looks gassed and it doesn't matter how much he complains when they get to the finals and Jimmy Butler decides to eat his soul, Bam puts the hurt on AD, and Spoelstra coaches circles around Vogel.

jamal murray is a baller...makes we wonder if we made a mistake picking Hield over him

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Originally Posted by ozwego15

jamal murray is a baller...makes we wonder if we made a mistake picking Hield over him

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It would just make the Boogie trade even worse.