Pelicans to meet with Tyreke Evans (offer has been made)

I'm guessing there's a Gordon-for-Deng swap on the table. I'd be pleased if we could roll into opening day with the following:

Holiday/Roberts/Jackson
Evans/Rivers
Deng/Budinger OR Copeland/Miller
Davis/Anderson/Thomas
Lopez/Smith

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Originally Posted by JJackisangry

I can live with ten mil a year. Anything more is probably overpaying, so we will have to be vigilant. I hope they do the three guard lineup; that would be so fun to watch.

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The Pels would definitely have one of the most unique line-ups if they sign Evans and keep Gordon. Three guards in the backcourt who can get into the paint and finish at will; two being great shooters, too. And Evans sure looks bulky enough with a long enough wingspan to defend most SF's capable of being defended. Then Davis at the rim. Then Anderson from 3... goodness. Could be effective.

Dell obviously plans on starting Darius you guys...

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Originally Posted by Bee-Fense

Sean Deveney ‏@SeanDeveney 1m
Pelicans would bring Tyreke Evans off the bench in a Manu Ginobili-style role, source says. Not saying it'll work. But that's the idea.

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If that's true then who's starting a SF?

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Originally Posted by DroopyDawg

Hmmm... a 2nd team of:

Austin
Reke
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Ryno
Smith

Wouldn't be bad at all. We still need a starting SF though. Hell and a backup lol. Unless Austin is the 2 and Reke is the 3. That brings me back to needing a starting SF!

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It's looking like AFA may be back; just makes sense and he's gotten no FA buzz yet (even though his tier is usually later).

Does the CBa allow you to backload a contract?

For example, could a 4 year 40 mil contract be
6 mil
10 mil
12 mil
12 mil

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Originally Posted by Bee-Fense

Monta Ellis got 5 years 55 million and isn't as good as Tyreke. Jason Terry was making 9-11 million for Dallas. DeMar Derozan got basically the same deal. Eric Gordon got the max lol.

This isn't a bad deal. I was worried I'd hear 4 years 45-50 million honestly.

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I agree, over 10 million would have me worried.

So we'd have two of our better players coming off the bench? Evans and Ryan Anderson?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UtWl6JIkIO...nl-640x290.jpg

Yeah, don't put too much into that "off the bench". That is just a way of the Pelicans not confirming that Gordon will be sent packing once Reke gets here. No way we pay them both.

So if Iggy for Gordon Swap goes through, We have a bench of

Vasquez, Rivers, Ryan Anderson, and Smitty,

One of the Best in the League.

If it doesn't?

Vasquez, Reke, Rivers, Ryan Anderson, and Smitty?

Best Bench in the League.

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Originally Posted by IamQuailman

They are probably saying that while Gordon is still on the team... He's very sensitive you know

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Originally Posted by eballa1

So we'd have two of our better players coming off the bench? Evans and Ryan Anderson?

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Personally, I think Anderson won't be on the bench for long. He might start as soon as next year. I think the plan is to start Anderson and Davis together eventually.

If we are offering 10 million a year, 1 of 2 things has to happen. We include Vasquez in a S&T, or we are cutting Lopez?

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Originally Posted by Topdawg26

If that's true then who's starting a SF?

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Me. Because I'll play for free and that is going to be our budget unless we move some other guys.

Maybe we not going after Iggy and probably gonna sign wright, Webster or even budinger

so does this mean we bring ryan anderson off the bench to start at the 3?

Tyreke would be the ultimate utility player. He could fill in for anyone (except the bigs obviously). Versatility is a great thing to have on a team looking to make the playoff push.

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Originally Posted by Bee-Fense

Sean Deveney ‏@SeanDeveney 1m
Pelicans would bring Tyreke Evans off the bench in a Manu Ginobili-style role, source says. Not saying it'll work. But that's the idea.

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I LOVE this idea. Start someone cheap like Dorrell Wright or Aminu, and bring Evans off the bench. He still gets 30+ minutes per game, and he gets to have the ball in his hands and run the 2nd unit. I think it could really work. Rivers, Evans, and Anderson in the 2nd unit? That is going to be MASSIVE scoring. Plus, he'll play in crunch time, so the lineup would be Holiday, Gordon, Evans, Anderson, and Davis.

Don't look at him as a "backup." Look at it as him carrying the 2nd unit, and he'll play at the end of the 2nd quarter and at the end of the game. That's what's most important. Plus, he'll definitely average 30+ minutes per game.

Don't forget, we're also going after Chase Budinger. What if we somehow managed to get Budinger and Tyreke, and did this

Jrue/Austin
EJ/Tyreke
Budinger/Tyreke
Anderson/Davis
Davis/Smith

obviously there's more to fill, but that's a basic idea.

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Originally Posted by tyler

Maybe we not going after Iggy and probably gonna sign wright, Webster or even budenger

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This would put us out of range for Iggy unless Evans gets a better offer or SAC matches

I'm sorry. Davis cannot play the 5 right now and I don't see it next year either.

Ok if Evans is signed for 10 mil a yr, EG is traded for a SF? I'm liking the direction the team might be headed, lots of young players who are good and have time to possibly get better.

Jrue, Evans, ?, Davis, Lopez w/ RA coming off the bench. Won't win a ring but will be exciting to watch.

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

I LOVE this idea. Start someone cheap like Dorrell Wright or Aminu, and bring Evans off the bench. He still gets 30+ minutes per game, and he gets to have the ball in his hands and run the 2nd unit. I think it could really work. Rivers, Evans, and Anderson in the 2nd unit? That is going to be MASSIVE scoring. Plus, he'll play in crunch time, so the lineup would be Holiday, Gordon, Evans, Anderson, and Davis.

Don't look at him as a "backup." Look at it as him carrying the 2nd unit, and he'll play at the end of the 2nd quarter and at the end of the game. That's what's most important. Plus, he'll definitely average 30+ minutes per game.

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If he averages 30+ mpg that means we will be paying Gordon 14 million to average 18- mpg...........me not like that idea. I'd rather trade gordon.

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Originally Posted by GeauxPelicans

If we are offering 10 million a year, 1 of 2 things has to happen. We include Vasquez in a S&T, or we are cutting Lopez?

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I would have to think Vazquez is going. Its never a bad thing to have options, but we cant give them all playing time. Maybe Vazquez is suited for a utility role like I assume Tyreke would?

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Originally Posted by hagios

Does the CBa allow you to backload a contract?

For example, could a 4 year 40 mil contract be
6 mil
10 mil
12 mil
12 mil

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I believe 4.5 increases are the max amount you can backload per year for a nonpoison pill contract.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Depends on the Bench player. If he's a bench player that gets starters minutes and has starter impact, he should be getting starter money.

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Problem is, we already have a bench player making $10 million a year. Not sure how we can afford another one. I think that info is inaccurate.

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar

I'm sorry. Davis cannot play the 5 right now and I don't see it next year either.

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He played nearly half his minutes there last season.

Reke is starting at SF. This makes me want to keep Gordon just to have another outside shooter with Jrue! Can we get Buddinger still if we sign Reke to 10 mil a year?

David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt 18s
Have been told the Pelicans' sheet to Tyreke Evans is four years, $44 million.

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Guys... we're simply talking in circles.

Let the stories develop. Reke can't sign until the 10th anyways. You have any idea what will be reported tomorrow? Perhaps Dell is just doing his due diligence w/ Iggy and knew he wasn't a realistic target.

It's very possible he didn't want to shed Lopez/Vasquez completely just yet without exploring all possible options.

As far as Ryno, he'll continue to come off the bench, but the important thing is that he'll FINISH games w/ AD. Which is why Lopez is so valuable with his contract as a starting caliber Center playing less than 30 minutes a night. Evans and Gordon can definitely coexist. Remember, they were talking about playing Vasquez at the 3 this season some... Evans is likely in the same scenario once Vasquez is likely shipped out.

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Originally Posted by Bee-Fense

He played nearly half his minutes there last season.

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And he didn't do so well defensively when he did.

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Problem is, we already have a bench player making $10 million a year. Not sure how we can afford another one. I think that info is inaccurate.

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I question it as well. doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar

And he didn't do so well defensively when he did.

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he gave up the same exact PER to centers and power fowards. However, he did better offensively at center and therefore had a better net production.

http://www.82games.com/1213/12NOH17.HTM

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Originally Posted by Topdawg26

Reke is starting at SF. This makes me want to keep Gordon just to have another outside shooter with Jrue! Can we get Buddinger still if we sign Reke to 10 mil a year?

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Didn't his agent said he will not sign a deal if the plan is for him to play SF?

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Originally Posted by Jackaveli

Ok if Evans is signed for 10 mil a yr, EG is traded for a SF? I'm liking the direction the team might be headed, lots of young players who are good and have time to possibly get better.

Jrue, Evans, ?, Davis, Lopez w/ RA coming off the bench. Won't win a ring but will be exciting to watch.

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I dont want to be exciting to watch i wan to win

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Originally Posted by Bee-Fense

he gave up the same exact PER to centers and power fowards. However, he did better offensively at center and therefore had a better net production.

http://www.82games.com/1213/12NOH17.HTM

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I don't care what the PER says. I watched all the games. He didn't do good at all against centers unless they were backups.

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Originally Posted by Jackaveli

RT @daldridgetnt: Have been told the Pelicans' sheet to Tyreke Evans is four years, $44 million.

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Hope Aldridge is wrong. He is also the one who reported that NBA sources confirmed we sent Noel to Philly for Holiday, Philly's 2014 1st rounder (1-3 protected) and Phily's 2013 1st rounder (#11 overall).

If it's really four years @ $44million, doesn't that cinch the view that we plan to trade Gordon if Evans signs? Presumably we would then sign one of the perimeter oriented swing players - someone like Buddinger.

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar

If he averages 30+ mpg that means we will be paying Gordon 14 million to average 18- mpg...........me not like that idea. I'd rather trade gordon.

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Evans will assume most of the minutes that belonged to Rivers/Roberts/Henry/Thomas/Miller last year... I seriously doubt Gordon plays less than 30 minutes.

You'll like end up something something like: AD, Ryno, Gordon, Evans all playing 30+ and then having Lopez being about 20-25 with either Rivers or Vasquez seeing the next big step on minutes... likely under 20.

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Originally Posted by Bee-Fense

David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt 18s
Have been told the Pelicans' sheet to Tyreke Evans is four years, $44 million.

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4-8 Mil too much... Its not terrible, but im not happy about the amount.

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar

I don't care what the PER says. I watched all the games. He didn't do good at all against centers.

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He didn't. The PER backs that up. But it also says that he wasn't any good defending power fowards, which I agree with as well.

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Originally Posted by Bee-Fense

David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt 18s
Have been told the Pelicans' sheet to Tyreke Evans is four years, $44 million.

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This amount makes sense. I think the kings would match 10 a year. If you're serious about going after a restricted FA you have to make the team holding his rights hesitant to match.

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar

Didn't his agent said he will not sign a deal if the plan is for him to play SF?

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That was tweeted by one reporter. Nobody credible has verified this claim.

Loomis is involved with dealing with our Cap situation and from what he's doing with the Saints cap and getting good players I trust him.

Most good teams have a 7 or 8 player rotation for meaningful games. Don't need a full 2-deep of real contributors in playoffs.

Starters:
Holiday
Gordon
???
Davis
Lopez

Bench:
Anderson
Evans
??? Rivers, Miller, Smith

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Originally Posted by TBlaze

Evans will assume most of the minutes that belonged to Rivers/Roberts/Henry/Thomas/Miller last year... I seriously doubt Gordon plays less than 30 minutes.

You'll like end up something something like: AD, Ryno, Gordon, Evans all playing 30+ and then having Lopez being about 20-25 with either Rivers or Vasquez seeing the next big step on minutes... likely under 20.

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What happened to jrue???

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Originally Posted by PelsFan2313

That was tweeted by one reporter. Nobody credible has verified this claim.

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Gotcha so it wasn't his agent, thanks for clarification.

If Reke is signed and kings fail to match, you can pretty much guarantee that Gordon is gone IMO

My guess:

Keep GV to trade later, cut Robin Lopez. Sign Tyreke.

Loomis has been terrible with the saints lately; why does everyone slurp this dude?